Whine & Cheese and SETWNDFFAFFUG (or SuperEx for short)

What should BFC do about W&C / SuperEx?

  • Ditch W&C

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  • Ditch SuperEx & leave W&C as is

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Keep both

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ditch SuperEx and make W&C for paying members only

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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The more I think about this and the more I read of what people have to say, the more I think that this is no big deal. Why should I screw up the enjoyment of other members that think that this forum would be fun. Whether this forum stays or goes means nothing to me really, but it does seem to mean something to others. If it means nothing to me, where do I get off messing it up for the others. Folks, if you think that this forum serves a useful purpose then have fun with it ya bunch of perverts. :p
 
I find it amuzing that people feel those that think this forum should not be here are in some way preaching a higher morality. That is not the case at all. Read our posts (and more importantly UNDERSTAND THEM).

From what I have read people are not offended by the pictures so much as the fact that they simply do not belong on a knife forum.

I am not speaking for them at all here and I am in no way saying that porn is bad. HELLO, DID YOU HERE THAT? PORN IS NOT BAD! What I am saying is that this forum IS NOT NECESSARY AND IT DETRACTS FROM THE OVERALL GOAL AND MISSION OF THIS SITE.

Please do not try to make it sound like you are quoting the 2 people (using Cougars abacus, not mine) who feel this forum should not be here by reading more than what is written. If you are going to quote someone, use THEIR ACTUAL WORDS.

Here is what is says on the home page of this site.
Welcome to the most popular knife discussion website in the world!

Here you can discuss all facets of knives,
from construction to materials to sharpening methods,
all in a friendly environment with some of the foremost experts in the field.

With over 14,000 members and over one million hits each day,
BladeForums.com is the Leading Edge of Knife Discussion.

Maybe it should read.....

Welcome to the most popular knife discussion website in the world!

Here you can discuss all facets of knives,
from construction to materials to sharpening methods,
all in a friendly environment with some of the foremost experts in the field.

With over 14,000 members and over one million hits each day,
BladeForums.com is the Leading Edge of Knife Discussion.

And if you pay us at least $30 bucks you get access to some FREE porn and you can cuss and bitch all you want!

Just my .02 and stop twisting words around folks, stick to the FACTS.
 
Originally posted by Mike Turber
You can call me "Dumbass" :D

Hey Dumbass, if I start calling you Dumbass nobody will know who I'm talking to and everybody will get mad at me for calling them dumbasses!

I think I'll refer to you as Mike "Dumbass" Turber from this day forward -- then people will know who I'm replying to. Just to make sure, though, maybe you should change your username.... :)
 
And if you pay us at least $30 bucks you get access to some FREE porn and you can cuss and bitch all you want!

<B>Just my .02 and stop twisting words around folks, stick to the FACTS.</b>

I thought you said you didn't want people to twist words, Mike. You need to make up your mind... you posted pictures of naked fat chicks, and now are railing on the inappropriateness of such actions. You are implying that cussing is inappropriate, but do it yourself. Not to just jump specificly in your lunch, but please try to be consistant.

Second, on the opposite side of the coin, Mike & Ira aren't the only people complaining, it's just that many of them are sending emails instead of posting here. Actually it's kinda weird because this is one of the few controversial decisions I've made where I've gotten an equal or greater number of positive emails to negative, but I'm still keeping score.

Finally, people are going to bitch whether they pay $30 or not, it's the nature of the beast. That's a fact of life...

FYI, password protected forums are suppossed to return in vB 3.0, though limiting access to paying members would do it too.

Keep voting and voicing your opinions, I'm listening folks.

Kevin
 
Hmm ... or we could something on the front page like:

"...and if you pay for a Premium, Gold, Knifemaker, or Dealer membership you will also gain access to (insert list here of all the other goodies paying members have access to) ... and access to the Super Exclusive Tactical Warrior Ninja Death Free For All Forum for UltraGeniuses for paid adult members only, where off-topic comic shenanigans, amusing anecdotes, and humorous pictures of all kinds including X-rated are allowed."

Then again, putting something like that right on the front page might seem a little too much like commercial advertising. It's probably better strategy to wait until they discover the Whine & Cheese forum and get good and sucked in before we give them the sales pitch for the Super Exclusive Tactical Warrior Ninja Death Free For All Forum for UltraGeniuses -- we can put that in a sticky thread at the top of Whine & Cheese.

P.S. The above post is a reply to Mike "Dumbass" Turber's proposed addition to the front page, posted higher above. Other dumbasses on this forum (if any), please do not take offense.... :)

P.P.S. I don't know why you keep talking about porn, Mike "Dumbass" Turber -- I haven't seen any porn posted on this forum, just humor. I guess porn is in the eye of the beholder....
 
P.P.P.S. I think dumbass should be considered a compliment. Asses should be dumb -- asses should be seen and not heard.
 
COOL! Now this is getting interesting!

I think the forum should stay. Just like it is, no changes. You guys win! Seriously this is really a cool idea. I have been thinking really hard about this and you are all right. Keep in mind, I never said I did not like this forum. I just said that it is not appropriet for BladeForums. Thats all.

Enjoy!
 
Originally posted by Cougar Allen
It's probably better strategy to wait until they discover the Whine & Cheese forum and get good and sucked in before we give them the sales pitch for the Super Exclusive Tactical Warrior Ninja Death Free For All Forum for UltraGeniuses

Though I believe you said that in jest, that is the point I was trying to make. Once someone gets comfortable in W&C (or in another forum) and makes some friends, they might want a place to let their proverbial hair down. And lets face it, W&C while still a place to vent, has kinda been watered down to Community II.

Now I love this place, and I will renew my membership if Kevin decides to kill Community, W&C, AND (God forbid) our little pirates haven here. But while he’s listening to opinions I would like to point out the American Express saying, “Membership has its privileges.” (Yes I’m aware of the perks that already come with membership) My point is, this could be a very fun place.

This post was meant for dumbass. No not you the other dumbass!:p
 
I twist my own words around with pschyobabble thank you.

A man once found a bag of money, he went to the bank and only deposited one dollar per day. Each year he deposited 365 dollars and like clock work he deposited the money, 1 dollar, each day until he died. His family knowing he deposited money each day went to the bank with his will in hand. It said to divide all his assets amongst the family evenly. The family each walked away with $847 and no sense.

Enjoy!
 
Originally posted by Mike Turber


Also your numbers are not valid, more than two people have complianed if you take the poll into consideration and the posts I have counted. I guess it dooes not matter how many people say this is wrong. When it really comes down to it, there is only one person that needs to decide and it ain't Spark.
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Anyway like I said, it is not your decision as to wether or not this forum stays, nor the poll, so I will leave that to the person who does make that decision. Should he chose to have the forum stay then so be it. But based on my conversation with him tonight and unless he changes his mind, it goes.

These are interesting statements...is there a silent partner/ owner here?

I think bladeforums should be a place to talk about knives ... not a place for pornography...even in a "private forum." There are plenty of other places to find such things if one so desires

BFC is a fun place and a lot of knowledge can be gained here, I would like to see it continue to grow in positive ways.
 
Originally posted by Mike Turber:

Anyway like I said, it is not your decision as to wether or not this forum stays, nor the poll, so I will leave that to the person who does make that decision. Should he chose to have the forum stay then so be it. But based on my conversation with him tonight and unless he changes his mind, it goes.

I was going to ask the same thing as bandaidman.

I think I know the answer to this question, but I'll keep it to myself for now.
 
A man is not only judged by his actions, or the things he does, he is also judged by his inactions, or the things he does not do.
Copyright © 2002 Michael E. Turber All Rights Reserved

The world is made so complex because of the simple people.
Copyright © 2002 Michael E. Turber All Rights Reserved

Being smart is not necessarily knowing the answers, but where to find them. Being intelligent, is knowing when you have found the answers. Stupidity is not asking the questions in the first place.
Copyright © 2002 Michael E. Turber All Rights Reserved

There is a piece of paper on a wall at Microtech. On it are words written by a not so famous author, but these are very important words according to Mr. Marfione. What are these words? Visit Microtech :D

BladeForums is a repository of knowledge for those who come here seeking answers. What questions could possibly be answered in this forum? This is not what I wanted this site to become, but who am I anyway?
 
Also it has been brought into question as to what can be actaully defined as porn?

Well let's ask Merriam-Webster.......

Main Entry: por·nog·ra·phy
Pronunciation: -fE
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes, from pornE prostitute + graphein to write; akin to Greek pernanai to sell, poros journey -- more at FARE, CARVE
Date: circa 1864
1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence>

As far as I can see my pic of the 3 fat ladies was not porn but my perception may be scewed. Also I am sorry if my pic of the three fat ladies aroused ANY of you :D

And Cougar I love ya to death man but if all you can count is 2 people against this forum then I hope you do nothing for a living that involves any math skills :D

I mean that to be humorus and not mean spirited, it just strikes me as funny that all along you have only counted two people.
 
I want to change my opinion too...and vote again, can I? Huh, can I, can I, huh, can I?...ad nauseum... :rolleyes:

Screw the porn, screw the knives, what we need is a 'paid members only' forum...a place where we can all go to listen to ex-administrators whine...lol :p

"Yeah, that's the ticket..."

Or, just make W&C a members only forum, tell the kiddies to limit the nakid fat chick pics, and get on with your lives...pretty basic 'stuff' eh?

Mel
 
So, in your book, it's ok to post pictures of naked women, but if other people do it, it's wrong? Again, I'm confused. Nekkid people are nekkid people... if you are going to lecture on applying standards, you are better off being uniform.

The right way to approach this would have been "Ok, I was wrong, I shouldn't have done this, and this isn't the place for it. I made a mistake. On further reflection, there shouldn't be any of it here at all." Mike, be a man and take responsibility for your own actions. The more you try to wiggle out of when your own deeds are thrown back at you, the more humorous it is. Don't try to weasel out of it, be a man, take the hit and move on. You weaken the other aspects of your argument by doing this.

Rather than go to a quotations database and pulling up pithy wit about this and that, I'll be succint (something I have great trouble with):

The question is does the site need this forum, and for that matter, W&C, not whether porn has a place here. To paraphrase you again, Mike, stop twisting words and deal with facts.

BladeForums.com will never have a dedicated porno forum. Period. So, give it a rest.

The essential question is, does this forum need to be here? The answer, apparrantly, is that the membership is more or less evenly divided on keeping it or ditching it, not that it's a scientific poll or anything. So, as usual, the Solomon-like ruling falls again to me. I'll make my final decision on this in a few more days.

Kevin
 
Oh I get it, this is not the Wine and Cheese forum!
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I read it wrong, I am sorry :D

Night guys...... And Danelle :D
 
So, in your book, it's ok to post pictures of naked women, but if other people do it, it's wrong? Again, I'm confused. Nekkid people are nekkid people... if you are going to lecture on applying standards, you are better off being uniform.

Huh? I am being uniform. That is why I gave you the definition of Porn. I am in no way wiggling out of anything.

The right way to approach this would have been "Ok, I was wrong, I shouldn't have done this, and this isn't the place for it. I made a mistake. On further reflection, there shouldn't be any of it here at all." Mike, be a man and take responsibility for your own actions. The more you try to wiggle out of when your own deeds are thrown back at you, the more humorous it is. Don't try to weasel out of it, be a man, take the hit and move on. You weaken the other aspects of your argument by doing this.

So why don't you say you were wrong like your post above? You can't prove me wrong on this issue as I am only offering my opinion here, like you asked, remember? What I feel is wrong is this forum, simple as that. I stand behind every word I said and if I was not clear I will say it again. THIS FORUM IS WRONG AND NOT THE DIRECTION I THINK BFC SHOULD GO IN. Was that clear enough for you Spark?

Rather than go to a quotations database and pulling up pithy wit about this and that, I'll be succint (something I have great trouble with):
For the record Spark, those are MY quotes and they were not culled from some database. In fact if you can find those quotes in any database anywhere by someone other than me I will personally come of to 1SKS on Monday and Kiss your fat ass and DC can take the picture and post it here! My quotes must have struck a nerve with you I guess. In fact it would be a federal crime for me to copyright something copyrighted by someone else, right? Go back and look at my post again, by the time you read this I will have edited it to place my copyright on the quotes you speak of.

The question is does the site need this forum, and for that matter, W&C, not whether porn has a place here. To paraphrase you again, Mike, stop twisting words and deal with facts.
No **** Spark, are you paraphrasing me or you? As it was pointed out earlier by Melvin-Purvis, you and I are in violent agreement.

BladeForums.com will never have a dedicated porno forum. Period. So, give it a rest.
Give what a rest. Where in the hell did I say that this is a dedicated porn forum? Arguing with you is like arguing with Lori!

The essential question is, does this forum need to be here? The answer, apparrantly, is that the membership is more or less evenly divided on keeping it or ditching it, not that it's a scientific poll or anything. So, as usual, the Solomon-like ruling falls again to me. I'll make my final decision on this in a few more days.

Well according to "you know who" last night, he has already made his decision, unless you have convinced him otherwise. Either way, if the forum stays or goes, it is really not your decision, it is his and his alone. Of course he will value our input and perhaps moreso yours since you see him nearly every day. And get your story straight, it is ultimitly HIS decision and NOT yours as I sold this site to HIM and NOT you!

You run the place Spark and you do a damn good job of it, but you let your emotions guide your judgment, it should be the other way around.

I am sitting here drinking a nice cool Mountain Dew, I just got done watching two movies from Blockbuster with Angie and the girls. And now I am going to bed, sleep tight :D
 
Too funny, just before I was going to bed I clicked on the forum and guess what...

(Moderated by: TomW, Vampire Gerbil)
(Users Browsing this Forum: Spark, Mike Turber)

Looks like it is just you and me in here anyway......

Angie says we both need to grow up! I love her!
 
Well, Mike, fortunately what you "know" could probably fill a thimble, but not much more.

[Edited to remove text - I'm not going to comment on certain aspects of what Mike's saying, other than he's got a lot of things wrong. I won't go into more detail than that, if Mike wants to break his agreement any more, that's his option, I won't get into the exact reason why things changed hands here. I don't believe in airing dirty laundry unless absolutely neccessary.]

You are the one implying that this forum is centered around porn and nothing else. If you don't feel this way, then why are you making such a fuss?

Finally, I didn't say you pulled quotes, I only said I wasn't going to do so. Are you twisting words again?

In short Mike, you are acting like a child. Instead of using any reason or logic, you can only play your "trump" card, which is funny in itself because it didn't even work here; what you "know" and what is the truth are widely seperated. Nice work, MENSA genius - next time you should think about your bridges before you burn them.

ÌoXáin
 
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