why do we knife nuts get frowned on?

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psy-ops

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when skiers, motorcyclists, rock/mountain climbers, mountain bikers and all those extreme sports guys are on mainstream tv getting applause for having to be rescued out of the mess they got themselves in to. or getting patched up by doctors or taken away in body bags.

I am not trying to insult anyone, all I am saying is we get the bad wrap and we don't hurt anyone or even ourselves. when all these other hobbyists are looked upon as heroes for hurting themselves. I don't get it.



maybe knife makers should be on the next wheatie's box. that all I am saying.;)

but seriously how many times have you been looked at weird or someone makes a comment about how you are a serial killer? all those stupid things. but then you have some guy who just broke his legs skiing and that's cool. and if you get a small nick on your finger people say that's what you get for playing with knives. I am gonna start saying that for extreme sports people who get hurt. that is what you get for bungy jumping off a bridge. I am not gonna do it but it si tempting. we have talked about sheeple and their stupid comments but I am talking in comparison with the extreme sports heroes. :mad:


I just want some slack.
 
You mean comments like "Jim Bowie would be proud" or "who you gunna kill with that thing"? And then five minutes later they want you to cut something for them.

Paul
 
Dexter and I had a mini-conversation to this same effect earlier today. Knife / Gun ppl are outcasts in the eyes of mainstream society...
 
i for one am sick of that kind of attitude. Most of my current friends consider knives as kewl little things which come in handy when you need a sharp edge. Non of them think twice about the thought of me carrying a knife and i on the other hand never think twice when they do too. The only thing they dont understand is how i could spend so much money on a knife and go to the trouble of ordering it in from the states (when i went and looked at the CRKT m16 and ordered in my S&W 3500). They are like this because they dont understand how much the quality of a knife means. They do not know anything about knives and the only thing they care about is if it looks good... and if its sharp:rolleyes:

I think we get frowned upon because the rest of society see knives as weapons. They know nothing about knives and that a knife is a knife, a weapon or a tool. Nothing else. If your current job needs the use of a knife then you have their consent but if not, your either a theif, mugger, purse-snatcher or psycho. Never thinking that person could be a collector or just a pure enthusiast.

What gets on my nerves is that some knife stores frown upon me when i go and view the range of knives they have. They sit there on their chair and give you a cockeye starting from when you come in till when you leave. Worst when you decide to buy one of their pieces of SH#$ they take your money and give you your change and your knife in a pretty little plastic/paper bag all while giving you the worst look ever. You can just imagine what they're thinking, "Little bastard. Going to FU$%ING run off and stab someone or mug some old lady:mad: "

My opinion. The more knife nuts out there the better. Maybe then the sheeple people of our society will finally accept that a knife is not just a knife. It is a tool, a perfectly crafted tool which is created to be used to its potential, and that you do NOT have to have a legitimate reason to carry a knife because when you have the need for an edge and no one comes to your rescue then you know who to blame.

... hope that bastard is not classified as swearing here... if yes then i apoligise in advance
 
You think you got it bad? try being a card carrying member of the NRA in a public high school near chicago...

it's the same story with knives as it is with guns - we're armed, they are not, this makes us "dangerous", them "benine" - it makes us "hostile" and them "virtuous" - once misconstrued properly, it makes us "evil", and them "good". After all, helplessness and comformity are the roots of civilization are they not?

This is what those liberals in washington would have you believe, they'll tell you all about how there's virtue to be found in being totally dependent on the federal government and being disarmed, they'll try to convince you that a girl raped and murdered is more virtuous then one who killed her assailant in defense. And they'll do all this with their armed bodyguards no more than 20 feet away.

Welcome to land of corruption and power, where an idiot with a cause is more dangerous than a madman with a .50 cal, where America, a country founded on freedom at the cost of blood from our forefathers, can be turned into another China - because the liberals think that's the way things ought to be.

Now i'm sorry to have run off on a politically based tangent, but realistically, it comes down to about 300 years of slowly brainwashing the citizenry to the notion that weaponry is bad, and are the tools of satan. Think about it, how many news stories you hear everyday on the TV about the drug dealer who did a drive by against another drug dealer and, oh by the way, managed to let off a stray bullet into the skull of some small, innocent child walking home on the wrong street? How many stories do you read in the paper about people mugged at knifepoint, then murdered? Now think about how many times you opened your local paper or turned on your local TV station to learn about the fella who stopped 3 crack addicts from killing an innocent man in an alley by drawing out his knife/gun that he legally posessed?

You beginning to see my point? We get the bad rap because we know better, because we refuse to go along with what's "normal", because we refuse to make our judgements based on fear, and that makes us the most powerful people in this country - and to many, that is a threat too great.
 
Wow, I'm honestly not sure what in the heck this thread is about. Is it the same old "why aren't non-knife people more like us knife people" thing? If so, I don't know ... wish they were.


>"maybe knife makers should be on the next wheatie's box. that all I am saying."

Or is it more of a "why aren't we knife nuts looked at in the same way as skiers, motorcyclists, rock/mountain climbers, mountain bikers and all those extreme sports guys?" kind of thing? If so, well that's because fat guys at knife-show tables makes for lousy tv. We complain a lot about the non-knife types (as well we should) but one of the things that really gets me about knife knuts is how much time, energy and money most seem to put into accumulating more knives - but then all they do is sit around and fondle them. Hey, I'm all for fondling a nice knife, appreciating fine craftsmanship and all that. But for God's sake, get off your duff and go use the thing (or at least use one of your users). Forsake buying your fifth Sebenza and take your kids on a rafting trip. Sell off one of your eight Microtechs and buy a backpack - then use it on the trail! Do something! Then tell us here on the forum about it, with special attention paid to knife content. ;)
 
mnblade, you have made an excellent point! As a fat knife accumulator, I could see myself in your comments. Everyday people do buy plenty of knives. Why else would stores like Walmart, Kmart, Target and Sears Hardware, have ever expanding selections of multi-tools and even one handers? The differnce is that regular people buy a knife or two and use it for twenty years instead sitting at a computer and talking about knives while admiring their collections like knife nuts do. To regular people, we probably do seem obsessed, not because we like knives, but because sit around talking about them fondling them instead of actually using them. As we have said ourselves, the best way to cut down on knife predjudice is make it clear that the knives we so admire are working tools and not pure objects of desire.
 
this is not another thread just about complaining,

it is in COMPARISON with extreme sports guys who constantly getting injured and putting themselves in harms way for no other reason than a thrill. and knife makers are seen as crazy psycho's who in a dark alley can't wait to stab someone.


I also agree that using is best and I am a user myself and an avid outdoor backpacker/camper. but what I am talking about is thrill seekers are cool but, knife nuts are psycho's. when the actual evidence of injuries points at the thrill seeker as the fool.



this all started at a thanksgiving conversation. I was sharpening some knives to carve the turkey and I was getting them hairpopping sharp. and so many were coming up to me and saying "boy what you gonna do with that?" and "I would hate to get on the wrong side of him"

then later on they were getting into a conversation about ski injuries and how they "broke this!" and "twisted that!"

I just thought to myself, "how did I become the psycho?"

not that skiing is bad or any other sport, It is just we get the bad wrap when everyone out there is maiming themselves.
 
YoungCutter, I know the feeling about being an NRA card carrying member in a liberal dominated high school. I graduated last year from a lab high school that was almost filled with the the liberal elite. Whenever I had to get my wallet out to buy something from the vending machine, they'd see the NRA card and my FOID card in my card holder slot and my classmates would talk trash about the NRA or call me psycho for being a gun owner. It was a pretty small school, so we all knew each other well, and I know they didn't mean it seriously, but still, the attitude they have is just frustrating.
 
Personally I'm a thrill seeker and a knife "nut", so I guess everyone thinks I'm stupid...

Which reminds me, the other day I'm looking at a chive, I think, on line when a coworker walks up. He asks me, "You goin to take over the world with that?" Stupidest thing I've ever heard. I mean, the damn blade is less then 2 inches long!
 
Personally, I don't look at sports figures, extreme or otherwise, as "heroes" unless they do something that IMO is heroic outside of the sport. When they get hurt, I just think of it as a part of the hazards of the activity...certainly not as "cool."

But I've also been training martial arts for 25 years and sometimes you get the same attitude as a knife knut receives..."Oh, I guess I better not make you angry." Or "So how many guys could you take out in a fight?" Keep in mind, these are (chronologically) ADULTS who are saying these stupid things, not 7 year olds. It's amazing that when it comes to certain subjects (i.e., martial arts, knives, guns, etc.), a high percentage of the adult population reverts to very immature, illogical, babylike thinking and behavior. Some people, especially other guys, will feel a threat to their manhood if they know you carry blades or can handle yourself. Others become self-righteously indignant that you are not sheeplike "like good people ought to be."

The most ironic things sheeple will say regarding both a martial arts practitioner or a knife carrier is, "All I would have to do is stand back and shoot you before you can use your (insert name of martial art or knife type here)." Of course, most people who will tell you that are anti-gun and have never held let alone fired or owned one. Which goes back to the lack of knowledge, the threat to their manhood or sheephood, and useless childish, knee-jerk responses. The fact that such thinking seems in the majority should be a bit disturbing enough.
Jim
 
I think that probably the single biggest answer that knife enthusiasts are seen in a different light as extreme skiers or rock climbers or things like that is that there are a significant percentage of knifenuts who see their knives primarily as weapons instead of tools. Thee are probably very few skiing forums where you could read in depth discussions of which kind of ski boot will cause a nastier abdominal wound on an attacker. It woule be tough to find a rock climbing magazine that would seriously discuss what climbing rope would be better suited to concealed carry in a dangerous neighborhood. Not that there is anything wrong with people who see knives as weapons first (though it really isn't my thing), but people who study ways to destroy others are bound to cause more consternation in the general public than people who manage to destroy themselves in search of an adrenaline rush. If you wnat to compare apples to apples try comparing knife nuts to gun nuts. Judging by the reaction of people in general, knife enthusiasts are benign by comparison. Just think of the reaction you sould get if you pulled out a gun to open your mail at the office.;)

Just to clarify: I have nothing against people who enjoy guns or carry knives as weapons. I simply don't choose to, and I think that it is unfair to compare those that do to other people who risk their own life in pursuit of a thrill.
 
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