Why is the Copper Kershaw Natrix...

DrRollinstein

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a full inch shorter than the regular natrix? I love the copper, but a knife under 7 inches just doesnt work well for me. Is there any reason behind this decision?
 
dont know but I have zero interest in a folder that short. sure would be nice to get an xl version in it, but Kershaw seems to love under 3.5" blades. guess lots of folks do or they'd make more man size folders instead of boys size.:)
 
I 100% agree with this. I was very interested when I first learned of the copper Natrix. Then when I realized the actual size of the copper I completely lost intrest. I don't care much for blades under 3.5 inches and refuse to carry anything under 3 inches. I currently have a Natrix model 7007cf which is the blue / carbon fiber g10 model and it's a very nice knife. I love the KVT bearing system. If Kershaw would build a XL copper model I certainly would be in for that.
 
Honestly, I'm glad. The 3+" flipper market is super oversaturated, but the sub-3" market is pretty dry. 2.5-3" is even more dry. I'd imagine there will be a full size version in D2 if the mini sells. I'm also super happy to see another American company doing a steel higher than 8Cr at a reasonable price.
 
I have no complaints. They make a pile of variants at the normal size, and also a large size, so what's the issue with them also making a smaller one?
 
I too was interested until I found out how small it is. I have fairly large hands and I don't do well with small knives. They tend to get lost in my hands. If they make made it in a XL i'd be all over it.
I'm waiting for the Bare knuckle. I heard a rumor that the Bare Knuckle's are coming out at the end of Nov/beginning of Dec time frame.
 
evilgreg said:
I have no complaints. They make a pile of variants at the normal size, and also a large size, so what's the issue with them also making a smaller one?
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there is no issue if ya like the small stuff. if ya dont.....well there is the issue. pretty cut and dry.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Because if they made one full sized or XL, everyone would complain about how heavy it was. Copper isn't light. A big knife with full copper scales is going to be an absolute chunk. On a smaller one that weight can give a feeling of density and quality, but a big one will feel unbalanced and awkward very quickly.
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yeah I always forget about the weight complainers. weight never bothered me.

got a buck 110 in copper frame and bolsters. its isnt all that unbalanced or awkward.....compared to the brass version. also got a couple in aluminum it's pretty light but I wouldnt call it unbalanced or awkward either. uses the same blade as the brass 110. same sizes etc.
 
jbmonkey said:
yeah I always forget about the weight complainers. weight never bothered me.

got a buck 110 in copper frame and bolsters. its isnt all that unbalanced or awkward.....compared to the brass version. also got a couple in aluminum it's pretty light but I wouldnt call it unbalanced or awkward either. uses the same blade as the brass 110. same sizes etc.
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It doesn't bother me much, either, but even the 110 catches a ton of flack from many for the weight it brings to the table. I think they intended the copper Natrix as more of a gent's folder and I have to admit, a half pound knife isn't gonna do well if I'm wearing dress pants. ;)
 
Insipid Moniker said:
It doesn't bother me much, either, but even the 110 catches a ton of flack from many for the weight it brings to the table. I think they intended the copper Natrix as more of a gent's folder and I have to admit, a half pound knife isn't gonna do well if I'm wearing dress pants. ;)
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who wears dress pants anymore? guess the ounce counters do.:D

naw I get your point. thanks for the followup.
 
I will admit that my 8oz PM2 felt a little weird the first time I picked it up; but I've got 2 other folders that weigh just as much, and I love them...
and the copper natrix is just too small for me.
The weight of a full sized version wouldn't phase me in the least; but I'm sure a lot of people would complain.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Because if they made one full sized or XL, everyone would complain about how heavy it was. Copper isn't light. A big knife with full copper scales is going to be an absolute chunk. On a smaller one that weight can give a feeling of density and quality, but a big one will feel unbalanced and awkward very quickly.
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This was my thinking.
 
Well, regardless of what's made there will be a group around here that just isn't happy. Wrong materials, wrong steel, bad design, weighs too much, don't like the colors, can't hit it with a sledge, too big, too small, poor flipping action for watching TV, etc.

I would bet that weight is a factor, and it always seems that they make the pretty knives and a little bit smaller size. I prefer larger blades on my work knives but got by on three to three and a half inch blades 4 a few decades with no problem.

I also would speculate that this might make it a little bit more law enforcement friendly. We no longer have knife laws in Texas and you can carry what you want. It is up to the LEO's discretion if there is a problem and a piece of cutlery is involved. But at one time our laws said you could not carry a locker of any type, and no blades over 3 1/2 inches. That law was completely ignored by all for about 40 years unless you pissed off someone in the law enforcement community.

So at least in part, this may be an attempt to make a more law enforcement friendly knife.

Robert
 
jbmonkey said:
dont know but I have zero interest in a folder that short. sure would be nice to get an xl version in it, but Kershaw seems to love under 3.5" blades. guess lots of folks do or they'd make more man size folders instead of boys size.:)
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I have a couple of the copper 110s and they feel pretty good to me. I love copper and buy just about any copper knife I can find, i was interested but glad I waited. Pretty small knife. Great material
 
jbmonkey said:
there is no issue if ya like the small stuff. if ya dont.....well there is the issue. pretty cut and dry.
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Yeah, I don't get where you're coming from at all. They already have a 3.75" version, the Natrix XL, a 3.25" version, the Natrix, so I still don't see why anyone would complain that they also now offer a smaller version. The 2.75" Natrix copper doesn't stop the other versions from existing if you'd like a larger form factor . . .
 
midnight flyer said:
Well, regardless of what's made there will be a group around here that just isn't happy. Wrong materials, wrong steel, bad design, weighs too much, don't like the colors, can't hit it with a sledge, too big, too small, poor flipping action for watching TV, etc.

I would bet that weight is a factor, and it always seems that they make the pretty knives and a little bit smaller size. I prefer larger blades on my work knives but got by on three to three and a half inch blades 4 a few decades with no problem.

I also would speculate that this might make it a little bit more law enforcement friendly. We no longer have knife laws in Texas and you can carry what you want. It is up to the LEO's discretion if there is a problem and a piece of cutlery is involved. But at one time our laws said you could not carry a locker of any type, and no blades over 3 1/2 inches. That law was completely ignored by all for about 40 years unless you pissed off someone in the law enforcement community.

So at least in part, this may be an attempt to make a more law enforcement friendly knife.

Robert
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Hey partner not sure where you got that bit about Texas knife laws but that was never and still is not correct...it used to be max of 5.5” and no double edges, now there are no size or edge limits but the old laws still apply in certain places such as 51% locations.

There is no “officer discretion” in the law whatsoever, which is a good thing.
 
I am enjoying this little edc blade. I wish it was just a touch larger but man the copper adds weight. I was handling the copper Natrix, then picked up my 3” Hinderer and I was amazed at the weight difference. It was that noticeable!
 
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