I'm not sure where Ban is at this time. I mailed him two of his own very excellent knives to sharpen and possibly place liners on over NINE months ago. Since then I've received empty promises from him but have not yet received my knives. I intend to pay shipping each way and have asked if he would simply send them back without any work but, alas, no answer. I'm afraid they're gone. I keep checking this forum and EBay from time to time to see if he puts them up for sale. Live and learn I guess; one could call me stupid sharp too. Richard Wingert M.D.