Flashlight Specials

CD Fleischer

CD Fleischer

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The UK 2L is $17.95 for orange only and the 2AAA's are $7.95 in black and yellow.

Tanner's Store Front has the 2L for $19.95 but they do not specify colour (nor have they returned my emial inquiry about it).

I decided it was finally time to get a 2L at this price. Besides, orange is a great colour. Go Vols!

Just thought I would share...

Clay

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Clay Fleischer
clay_fleischer@yahoo.com
AKTI Member A000847

[This message has been edited by CD Fleischer (edited 06-19-2000).]
 
Minor correction, but the orange 2L is $17.50. At that price, I figured I might as well get 2 of them last week. I'm impressed with the light from such a small package, especially at the price. Great service from Brightguy, too.
 
$17 and change is pretty good. I ordered two also. Thanks for the heads-up Clay.

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[This message has been edited by David Williams (edited 06-20-2000).]
 
I just recently bought a 2L but mine casts a beam that is not round and it has an off center dead spot. Does anybody else have this problem or is this normal for the 2L. It is nowhere near as nice as my Scorpion. Could I possible have a defective reflector?
Thanks for any feedback.
Dave
 
Havoc -- thanks for the correction

David -- you're welcome

DDS -- I would guess that it is a bad reflector. All the UK flashlights I have owned have had great beam tightness and shape.

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Clay Fleischer
clay_fleischer@yahoo.com
AKTI Member A000847
 
Hi, I just got 4 2L's and 2 spare lamps (gifts). All 6 of them have differnt beam shapes. They range from a very tight spot to a tight spot with a ring of light around it and even a wider mush of light. I don't think UKE is as perticular about the lamps as Surefire. Not that they are bad, but they aren't Surefires. It's kind of a crap shoot as to the shape of the beam of light. I really like them for backup in a first aid box, glove box or backup dive light. For not much more you can get a Streamlight Scorpion with an adjustable beam from Tanners for $30. It should be brighter than the 2L light also. But it isn't waterproof to 500 feet. I have one on order and will review it on my new sight as soon as I get it.

Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/flash.htm
 
Funny, as I was going to add to my earlier comments that the UK had good beam shape but not as precise as the Sure-Fire.

Are the Scorpions waterproof at all?



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Clay Fleischer
clay_fleischer@yahoo.com
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This is where I think the SureFire Flashlights come into their own. Beam focus, brightness and the sheer blinding whiteness..ness.

If the rest of the range is like the 12PM, then I can understand how a 6P can blow a Maglite away.

The Pelican StealthLites I use have irregular beams which are coloured. I want pure white light in a tight spot which is blindingly bright. That's why I'm getting an M2 and an E1.

I thought about the Scorpion for a long time, but I like the option SureFire gives for the Super Bright lamp.
 
The Streamlight Scorpion is said to have "Water resistant O-ring sealed joints", similar to the Surefire's. So it is probably fine in rain or dropped in a puddle, but isn't meant to be used underwater. The Scorpion is closer in size to the UKE 2L than to the larger Surefire 6P. I am really hoping they make a high brightness lamp for the E1, so you could get say 65 lumens (same as the 6P) out of the light for 15 minutes. I already sent Surefire an email and they stated they would look in to a high brightness lamp for the E1 if enough customers requested it.

Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/flash.htm
 
In that case, we better start requesting it. 20-25 minutes runtime is my requested minimum -- however many lumens the E1 can get to run for that long, I'm there.

Joe
 
Size15s, you said:

This is where I think the SureFire Flashlights come into their own. Beam focus, brightness and the sheer blinding whiteness..ness.
If the rest of the range is like the 12PM, then I can understand how a 6P can blow a Maglite away.
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It would seem your experience is different from mine. The quasi-Fresnel lens of the Sure-Fire usually yields an eliptical beam . Sure-Fires are great for area lighting or searching for things up close (20-30 ft.). At a distance, despite the higher output of a 9P with the 91 lamp, a 3 cell MagLight with the Carley xenon lamp will focus more light on a given spot than will the Sure-Fire. In addition, the MagLight will last for 10-12 hours, in stark contrast to the 30 min. of the Sure-Fire.

I do not believe my experience to be anomalous. I have and use several of both types of flashlights, and have found this to be the case whenever the two are compared.

Of course, YMMV. Walt
 
Hi Walt, by the way thanks again for pointing me to this board, it is great! I also use both Surefires and Mag's. I like the Mags for the run time and the ability to go from spot to flood. But for ease of use in both size and weight, the Surefires are great. I also like the way the Surefires have that ultra white, extremely even and no rings in the beam. Maybe when I get one of those Carley xenon lamps in my Mag I will like it even more! By the way put me down for 4 "2 cell" and 4 "5 cell" lamps if you don't have me down already for them.

Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/flash.htm
 
Walt,

The 12PM has what best can be described as a Turbo Head. Which I believe produces a pencil beam compared to the 6P's flood/spot. I'm confused myself because you can buy a turbo head for the 12PM/12ZM. ($130 PN# T62.) You can buy Turbo heads for the 6P/9P (over $100 for the head alone!) Or buy them with the Turbo Head as the 6PT and 9PT ($145/$173).

<a href="http://www.ndsproducts.com/12pm.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.ndsproducts.com/12pm.jpg" border="0" height="43" width="134"></a>

http://www.ndsproducts.com/surefire.html

http://www.ndsproducts.com/surefirelist.html

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[This message has been edited by David Williams (edited 06-21-2000).]
 
Brock; we enjoy having you here! Carley order going in soon, so will get you the lamps you need. Anyone else need a Carley xenon lamp, just e-mail me.

Dave; CHOKE! GASP! Here I thought Mag-Light accessories were expensive! It seems that the model you pictured really gets away from the best feature of the Sure-Fire; it is small enough that you are likely to have it with you. When Sure-Fires start approaching Mag-Light size, the comparison starts getting ludicrous, with the SF's wildly overpriced, with fragile lamp assembly, short burn time and expensive batteries.

There are a few SF features that drive me batty as well. Take the tail cap; you have to buy a special one for $20 just so the darn thing won't turn on accidentally when in the unscrewed/'off' position. The difference? The special tail cap is about 1/8" longer. So why the freak didn't they engineer the wretched thing right in the first place??

I do like both types of lights, and use each as well, but a Sure-Fire is never going to compete with a D-cell Mag-Light.

Walt
 
I just looked again at my 12PM...

It’s a circular spot ~10cm across from ~1m. I almost blinded myself trying to measure it, so it could be ~15cm across.

I think I'm right in that the Carley xenon lamp is not standard for MagLites…WHY NOT?! I've not used one of these hacked Mags, but the 3D cell is about the same length as the 12PM. I would be very surprised if there was any lamp for a MagLite that can project further than the 12PM.

The 9N does have a TurboHead for long distance, and the 9N is smaller and lighter than the 3D cell.

The SF M6 which has 2 clusters of 3 DL123As and is 7.75" long. If this was to have an additional 2 clusters of 3 DL123As making it around 11" long then with 12 3V cells - that's 36 Volts, the SureFire could have a long lasting lamp which was way more powerful than a MagLite of the same volume, and a high output lamp which could rival the PlasmaBeam for light output.

What are the uses of SF lights? Well I understand that they're for tactical situations which are over in a few minutes. The run of the mill everyday jobs like erm...
walking the dog, and changing the fuse, and general night camping are best left to an everyday flashlight.

Finally, I would like to see how well your hacked 3D cell does against my 12PM out in the field. I can understand how a MagLite on steroids may beat a 6" long by 1.3" flashlight which is half it's size!

Al

P.S. I have also sent an email to SureFire asking for a high output lamp for the E1.
 
EXPENSIVE BATTERIES!!!
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Don't tell me that you think the DL123As in the USA are expensive!

I have to pay £7.25 for Duracell DL123As
That's like $10 or something - EACH!!!
The SureFire 12B (12 DL123As) is $30 from Botach which is $2.5 each.

I hope the new SureFire Millennium Series don't have the "fragile lamp assembly" which some (not me - am I the lucky one?) experienced.

Overpriced?
Well yes. not argument there!
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As nice as the Sure Fires are; they are sure expensive to feed. The nice thing about the C or D cell Mag-Lites is that the batteries are a lot cheaper than DL123a's. And the Xenon Star Carley Lamp are much brighter than the standard krypton bulb that comes with the Mag-Lites. And C/D Alkalines last a lot longer than Lithiums. For long term utility use the Mag-Lite with a Carley Lamp is hard to beat. Both types of lites have their purposes.

www.carleylamps.com

A little searching can find DL123A's in the £5 range.

http://www.altavista.co.uk/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&sc=on&q=dl123a&kl=XX&what=uk

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[This message has been edited by David Williams (edited 06-23-2000).]
 
The 123A can be found for less than $2.00 in bulk at CheapBatteries.com, and here at the Opera we buy them in bulk alright.

Simply put, Gentlemen, you won't catch a Stagehand hauling around a C or D cell Maglight during scene changes, it just isn’t practical. And when you need to see how a piece of scenery is moving when it is forty feet in the air backstage in a dark theater no Minimag or LED based lamp will do.

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James Segura
San Francisco, CA
 
James -- what light do most of the stagehands use?

Walt -- I remember something from one of your old posts about C cells versus D cells in regards to flashlights. Something about why D's a re preferred?

Got my 2L and 2AA day before yesterday. I still like the transparent bezel on the older UK's better, though 1) I think I am alone in this; and 2) I don't know why, I just do.

Am I right in thinking the bulbs and reflectors from the 4AA's and the 2L's are interchangeable, since both are 6v lights?

Again, (sorry to sound like a broken record) if anyone knows where there are any of the old style Mini Q-40s, please let me know.

Clay

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Clay Fleischer
clay_fleischer@yahoo.com
AKTI Member A000847
 
I can't speak for James, but in our road house (big touring theatre) the most common light is an AA mag. Although more and more people are carrying either a streamlight stinger, then surefire 6P (or some version of it), and now I am seeing the streamlight scorpion. The bigger Mags used to be more common, but they aren't practical to carry around all the time for those quick peaks across a dark theatre or to the grid.

Brock - http://www.uwgb.edu/nevermab/flash.htm
 
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