Sliciest Spydercos

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I'm a big fan of thin blades. When I see production folding knives averaging 1/8" at the spine I get confused and disheartened. Who needs 3mm of steel for an EDC? It just plain doesn't cut very well.

Traditional knives skipped the prybar trend for the most part and typically have beautifully thin blades. I also love the aesthetic appeal and materials, but I do miss a pocket clip and/or one-hand opening sometimes, and traditional knives have largely not kept up with metallurgical advancements. There are slipjoints with modern-ish steels from some companies like Boker, but they typically come with very premium prices.

When I think of thin slicey production knives I usually think of Spyderco. 1/8" stock seems more like an exception than a rule compared to most manufacturers, full flat grinds are highly typical, and even slipjoints with modern steels and design features are represented.

Still, though, in the search for the ultimate slicers there is plenty to sift through even with Spyderco's above average lineup. Prybars are rare but there are still some that stand out as exceptional cutters.

I've identified the chaparral, the Centofante knives, and the Ladybug as currently available knives with very slicey profiles and thin stock. Which am I missing that are in production and particularly thin? And that's based on spine thickness but what about behind the edge?

And historically does anyone know which Spyderco has had the thinnest stock, the highest grinds, and ultimately the thinnest measurement behind the edge?
 
I'm a big fan of thin blades. When I see production folding knives averaging 1/8" at the spine I get confused and disheartened. Who needs 3mm of steel for an EDC? It just plain doesn't cut very well.

Traditional knives skipped the prybar trend for the most part and typically have beautifully thin blades. I also love the aesthetic appeal and materials, but I do miss a pocket clip and/or one-hand opening sometimes, and traditional knives have largely not kept up with metallurgical advancements. There are slipjoints with modern-ish steels from some companies like Boker, but they typically come with very premium prices.

When I think of thin slicey production knives I usually think of Spyderco. 1/8" stock seems more like an exception than a rule compared to most manufacturers, full flat grinds are highly typical, and even slipjoints with modern steels and design features are represented.

Still, though, in the search for the ultimate slicers there is plenty to sift through even with Spyderco's above average lineup. Prybars are rare but there are still some that stand out as exceptional cutters.

I've identified the chaparral, the Centofante knives, and the Ladybug as currently available knives with very slicey profiles and thin stock. Which am I missing that are in production and particularly thin? And that's based on spine thickness but what about behind the edge?

And historically does anyone know which Spyderco has had the thinnest stock, the highest grinds, and ultimately the thinnest measurement behind the edge?
Historically I would say it’s the C17 Catcherman. It’s a flat, thin folding fillet knife :


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A few votes for the chief, another Spydie I was unaware of, really love the elongated leaf profile on that one. Thick at the spine but a big tall blade, would be interesting about behind the edge thickness.

Makes me wonder about whether how tall the blade is should be what I focus on. That C17 would be a perfect comparison, thin slender blade vs thicker taller blade.

My wallet is looking at me with concern.
 
Yojimbo 2, and I imagine the Ronins and Yojumbo would be as well.
Yeah, my Ronin 2 slices anything like butter. I usually have it on my workbench or kitchen counter. Sometimes in a jacket pocket in the winter. Just not super comfortable to carry in the factory sheath. No matter how I adjust it, the handle jabs me in the ribs.
 
Not really sure the technical definition of slicey but if there are knives that cut better than my s45 pm2 or spy27 native I don't really feel like I'm missing out much as they cut like lasers!
 
I find the Kapara to be one of the sliciest Spydercos I've experienced. I have the 20CV version and it's one of my all time favorite folders.
 
The Ladybug is 2mm thick, one of the thinnest offerings by Spyderco.

The hollow ground Gayle Bradley folders are very thin behind the edge due to the hollow grind.

This is from the Spyderco Forum:

Behind Edge / Spine / Blade Stock

Advocate - .023 / .116 / .117


Baby Horn Sprint - .014 / .080 / .090


Bradley Junction: 0.097” thick stock / 0.020” BTE,


Caly 3 HAP40 Sprint - .022 / .111 / .116
Caly 3.5 ZDP189 CF - .0225 / .107 / .116


Caribbean PE Leaf: Spine thickness: 3.42 mm/0.134” 0.44mm/0.017” BTE


Cat 440C - .020 / .096 / .102


Chaparral CF - .013 / .077 / .077
Chaparral LW - .0175 / .073 / .0775
Chaparral FRN: Stock: 0.079", Plunge: 0.019", Mid blade 0.019", Tip: 0.019"


Cricket Blue Nishijin - .015 / .078 / .0785


Delica V-TOKU 2 Sprint - .019 / .092 / .096
Delica Pakkawood-HAP40 KC Exc. - .017 / .086 / .096
Delica (FFG) - Blue - .028 / .096 / .096
Delica SNK Exclusive-Red G10/TiCN - .022 / .090 / .0965
Delica (FFG) - Orange - .028 / .096 / .096
Delica WC HAP40 Sprint - .020 / .091 / .096
Delica Bento Box Shop M390: Spine: 0.095" Edge thickness: 0.027"
Delica HAP40 Jazzlica: 0.018/0.018/0.016 stock thickness 0.096
Delica Super Gold : 0.018/0.018/0.018 stock thickness 0.096
Delica exclusive CPM Cru-wear: Stock thickness: 2.44 mm BTE: 0.025"


Dragonfly HAP40 - .019 / .096 / .096
Dragonfly Pakkawood-HAP40 KC Exc. - .020 / .0965 / .0965
Dragonfly VG10 - .020 / .096 / .096
Dragonfly Salt HB SE - .031 / .0965 / .0965
Dragonfly G10/VG10 - .020 / .096 / .096


Emphasis: Blade thickness - 0.118" Half inch from the tip - 0.026" (0.6604mm) Mid-blade - 0.025" (0.635mm), Half inch from the plunge grind - 0.024" (0.6096mm)



Endura HAP40: 2.70mm/0.106” spine, 0.55mm/0.023” BTE


Firefly - .024 / .118 / .118


Gayle Bradley 1 - .021 / .118 / .118


Kapara: 0.020/0.020/0.020 stock thickness 0.115
Kapara: Stock: 0.118", Plunge: 0.022", Mid blade 0.020", Tip: 0.022"



Ladybug ZDP-189 - .017 / .077 / .077


Lil Matriarch BBS Exc. - .023 / .0985 / .0985


Lil'Native backlock #1: 0.019/0.019/0.020 stock thickness 0.126
Lil'Native backlock #2: 0.021/0.020/0.022 stock thickness 0.126
Lil' Native SNK 4V: Blade stock thickness: .125" BTE: .022" avg



Manbug ZDP-189 - .019 / .094 / .098
Manbug HAP40 - .018 / .087 / .096
Manbug HAP40: Spine (in front of plunge line) 2.08mm/0.082” 0.40mm/0.015” BTE


Manix 2 G10/S30V - .023 / .116 / .125
Manix 2 52100 KW Exclusive - .024 / .120 / .125
Manix 2 LW BD1 Trans Blue - .024 / .124 / .125
Manix 2 LW S110V
Manix 2 LW BD1 Black - .026 / .125 / .125
Manix 2 LW XHP - .023 / .115 / .125
Manix 2 52100: 3.05mm/0.121” spine, 0.57mm/0.023” BTE
Manix 2 Brown XHP: 0.022/0.027/0.029 stock thickness 0.125
Manix 2 Blue g10 sprint: Stock: 0.125", Plunge: 0.025", Mid blade 0.032", Tip 0.037"


Mantra - .0175 / .116 / .118


McBee: Spine - .118", BTE - .030"


Military Lefty: 3.46mm/0.136” spine 0.58mm/0.022” BTE
Military Rex45: Spine - 0.140" BTE - 0.022"


Mule Team 26 PMA11: Spine - 0.114" BTE - 0.20"
Mule PMA11: 0.016/0.018/0.019 stock thickness 0.119


Native 5 G10 S35VN - .026 / .126 / .126
Native 5 2013 Forum - .022 / .126 / .126
Native 5 LW S35VN - .026 / .126 / .126
Native 5 LW 2015 Forum Knife- .026 / .125 / .1255
Native 5 40th Ann - .022 / .126 / .126


PM2 Blk/DLC - .0285 / .145 / .145
PM2 M390 DLT Exc. - .023 / .1405 / .145
PM2 Cruwear - .028 / .145 / .145
PM2 Cruwear: 3.48mm/0.137” spine, 0.54mm/0.022” BTE
PM2 M4/CF - .025 / .1435 / .1435
PM2 CRUWEAR - .025 / .1455 / .1455
PM2 Forum Knife 2018 S90V: Spine - 0.136" BTE - 0.021
PM2 Rex 45: 0.019/0.020/0.022 stock thickness 0.14
PM2 River's Edge Cutlery Exclusive (Coyote Brown G10, CPM 10V): BTE: 0.0236"
PM2 204P Knifeworks exclusive: Stock: 0.138", Plunge: 0.025", Mid blade: 0.022", Tip: 0.023"


Para 3 Rex 45: 0.018/0.019/0.018 stock thickness 0.145
Para 3 Cruwear Sprint - .0225 / .140 / .144
Para 3 - .025 / .145 / .145
Para 3 M390 BBS Exc. - .0235 / .143 / .145
Para 3 Maxamet: 3.53mm/0.139” spine, 0.54mm/0.021” BTE


Police 4 K390: Spine - 0.105" BTE - 0.023"
Police 4 K390: 0.110" stock 0.030"bte


Positron KC Exclusive - .016 / .117 / .117


Sage 1 - .020 / .111 / .117
Sage 2 - .0205 / .116 / .117
Sage 3 - .020 / .116 / .117
Sage 5 - .019 / .111 / .116


Shaman 4V: 0.144" spine 0.025" bte
Shaman Cruwear/Micarta: 0.026", 0.025", 0.024" bte
Shaman Cruwear/Micarta: 0.021/0.023/0.023 stock thickness 0.145


Sliverax


Stretch 2 G10 ZDP: 0.023/0.025/0.025 stock thickness 0.111
Stretch LW VG10 - .025 / .117 / .117
Stretch LW HAP40 - .023 / .109 / .1155


Swick (Original) 0.022/0.028/0.026 stock thickness 0.155


Urban K390 Sprint - .015 / .106 / .112
Urban K390: 2.75mm/0.109” spine, 0.35mm/0.015” BTE
Urban G10/VG10 - .031 / .112 / .118
Urban K390: Stock: 0.112", Plunge: 0.016", Mid blade 0.016", Tip: 0.017"


UKPK G10 S30V - .020 / .118 / .125
UKPK LW S110V


Waterway: 3.03mm/0.119" spine, 0.62mm/.023"
Waterway: .119" at the spine and .012" BTE .
 
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