2015 1095 steel Schrade SCHF-37

DeadboxHero said:
Yeah that Schf38 was bad. My schf26 was out performing it with 8cr13mov.

You know, Taiwan is quite under appreciated.

They make some awesome Spydercos. Great fit and finish.

Seems like China should stick with 8cr13mov or 65mn

Maybe increasing the price gets a heat treatment?
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Maybe with China coming into mass production knife manufacturing late in the game they just have more experience with stainless?

I know that when the Nationalist Party of China, our allies in WWII, bugged out to Taiwan when the Communist Party took over on the main land that we: the U.S., the UK, and others stepped in to help them develop their economy. In a way, as much as we support and protect them, they might as well be another US territory... So far, the best heat treats I have seen come out of China has been Boker, and I believe that is due to the presence of very skilled German craftsmen overseeing the work done at their Chinese plants.
 
DeadboxHero said:
Yeah that Schf38 was bad. My schf26 was out performing it with 8cr13mov.

You know, Taiwan is quite under appreciated.

They make some awesome Spydercos. Great fit and finish.

Seems like China should stick with 8cr13mov or 65mn

Maybe increasing the price gets a heat treatment?
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I have a SCHF26 and SCHF37. They do a heck of a job on the 8cr13mov for sure. My 1095 blade though, the heat treat is perfect on it. I've used the SCHF37 along side BK7 and BK9s and the edge on all held the same.
 
Boris74 said:
I have a SCHF26 and SCHF37. They do a heck of a job on the 8cr13mov for sure. My 1095 blade though, the heat treat is perfect on it. I've used the SCHF37 along side BK7 and BK9s and the edge on all held the same.
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There were some issues early on with the first of the 37s from what I heard. I imagine, since that is Morgan's pet project, he figured out a way to resolve that quickly. I don't know what exactly happened but I'd say if he mentioned relocating that particular four-knife-project to the Taiwan plant that it got sorted quickly. I talked to a few testers last night and apparently the later versions of that model have been much better.
 
Boris74 said:
I have a SCHF26 and SCHF37. They do a heck of a job on the 8cr13mov for sure. My 1095 blade though, the heat treat is perfect on it. I've used the SCHF37 along side BK7 and BK9s and the edge on all held the same.
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Right on brother, must have been a lemon.
 
DeadboxHero said:
Right on brother, must have been a lemon.
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I've been beating the ever livin life out of the SCHF26 lately and it was neglected for about two weeks. I was working out in the pole barn and my new Ontario falcon needed a touch up so I used what I had around me. Some valve grinding compound spread on some cardboard. Worked great, shaves hair again. For the low HRC on the Ontario 5160, they hold an edge real long. Easily holds it as long as 1095 with a higher HRC. Maybe it's geometry but that blade is awesome.

So I had the F26 out there too and figured may as well give it some love. About 7 minutes of love and it has a super polished hair shaving edge again.

If you need to improvise sharpen and have some valve grinding compound and cardboard around, you can get a nice polished super sharp edge fast. Going to use that method more often now lol.
 
I have owned the 37 for about 9 months now, great knife for the money......but... A new version without the jimping and a better handle design will be available very soon, the SCHF/51OR 52 I BELIEVE.
 
I have read that Taiwan manufacturing sector is quite advanced and manufacturing can be of very high quality. There are several ISO-9000 rated businesses.
Politics and country of origin aside that shrade looks great and at 35USD I would consider buying one regardless.
 
codycash said:
I have owned the 37 for about 9 months now, great knife for the money......but... A new version without the jimping and a better handle design will be available very soon, the SCHF/51OR 52 I BELIEVE.
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It's the 52, to be honest, I like the 37 handle better. The new designed grip looks like you won't be able to choke down and chop like the 37 can be. The 37 was designed with a handle for chopping and it works great for it. The new handle will require no choking down and give less leverage during the chop stroke. I'd have to handle it though to make up my mind. I think that handle design would be better on the SCHF10 and SCHF26, them are used less for chopping, at least for me.

I'd love to see them bring out a smaller version of the big blades like the Ontario Falcon I just got. I'd buy one or two for sure, the 26 and 37 cost less combined than the Falcon alone was, but it's worth it. I like a small tough little knife for doing the menial tasks bit is still tough enough to do big boy stuff, and it does it well.
 
Boris74 said:
It's the 52, to be honest, I like the 37 handle better. The new designed grip looks like you won't be able to choke down and chop like the 37 can be. The 37 was designed with a handle for chopping and it works great for it. The new handle will require no choking down and give less leverage during the chop stroke. I'd have to handle it though to make up my mind. I think that handle design would be better on the SCHF10 and SCHF26, them are used less for chopping, at least for me.

I'd love to see them bring out a smaller version of the big blades like the Ontario Falcon I just got. I'd buy one or two for sure, the 26 and 37 cost less combined than the Falcon alone was, but it's worth it. I like a small tough little knife for doing the menial tasks bit is still tough enough to do big boy stuff, and it does it well.
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The new model was designed specifically to have a longer more comfortable handle for chopping, it allows you to choke back further without your grip sliding off. I've only seen pictures but it definitely will allow for better leverage chopping. I love Ontario 5160, wood can't make it dull for some reason, it looses its hair popping level and then stays near shaving for EVER! Really amazing stuff
 
buckfynn said:
Any ETA when this model will be available? Also do you have any idea what steel they will be using for this model?
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It went into production a couple of months ago, so it should be available soon. SCHF42D is 1095 just like the SCHF42 and SCHF9. The SCHF55 will be 1095 as well.
 
I had my SCHF37 for a total of 3 weeks before the tip broke off of it from sticking it into a log between using it. I've seen the videos on youtube of guys throwing them into trees and going nuts stabbing logs with these knives with no issue so I am hoping it was a fluke that mine broke. Called Taylorbrands and I had to send it in, they sent me a new one for the price of shipping (which I think they should have picked up honestly) I got the new knife this afternoon but am now hesitant to use it which may or may not be a silly thing but it is what it is. I'm sure I'll end up using it and hope the tip stays attached to this one.

Over all I like the knife (besides the tip breaking thing) especially for the price, comes out of the box fairly sharp and is comfortable in the hand other than the jimping being quite aggressive so after using it for a bit you do feel that on your hands.
 
Nietz said:
I had my SCHF37 for a total of 3 weeks before the tip broke off of it from sticking it into a log between using it. I've seen the videos on youtube of guys throwing them into trees and going nuts stabbing logs with these knives with no issue so I am hoping it was a fluke that mine broke. Called Taylorbrands and I had to send it in, they sent me a new one for the price of shipping (which I think they should have picked up honestly) I got the new knife this afternoon but am now hesitant to use it which may or may not be a silly thing but it is what it is. I'm sure I'll end up using it and hope the tip stays attached to this one.

Over all I like the knife (besides the tip breaking thing) especially for the price, comes out of the box fairly sharp and is comfortable in the hand other than the jimping being quite aggressive so after using it for a bit you do feel that on your hands.
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It's not a stabbing knife by any means. The tip with the hollow grind is as thin as a mora up there and it's so thick behind it that the thin tip is obviously an issue. Just don't stab with it. I don't and no problems at all. It batons like no other and the shallow hollow grind makes it a sweet chopper for sure. If you need a cheap strong tip blade their SCHF9 is the way to go. I have a SCHF26 as well and I beat it into a log deeper to get more baton surface and I hit a rock under the dirt as I pounded it in further. Took a nice chip out of the rock, so their thicker tip designs are much tougher up there.

If mine ever breaks off I will just grind it down and call it good. Will be much more tough then.
 
Mistwalker, any chance of you talking Taylor into making some folders in carbon steel? The old Uncle Henry lockbacks came in 1095 and Schrade+ ( stainless). People still go out of their way to pick up the USA schrades in carbon steel and I'm one. They cost a lot of money compared to what they went to for new.

The LB series is excellent and well made and would sell well in carbon steel. SK5 or 1095 or whatever they came up with as long as it isn't that 1055 carbon steel.

Joe
 
Boris74 said:
It's not a stabbing knife by any means. The tip with the hollow grind is as thin as a mora up there and it's so thick behind it that the thin tip is obviously an issue. Just don't stab with it. I don't and no problems at all. It batons like no other and the shallow hollow grind makes it a sweet chopper for sure. If you need a cheap strong tip blade their SCHF9 is the way to go. I have a SCHF26 as well and I beat it into a log deeper to get more baton surface and I hit a rock under the dirt as I pounded it in further. Took a nice chip out of the rock, so their thicker tip designs are much tougher up there.

If mine ever breaks off I will just grind it down and call it good. Will be much more tough then.
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Thanks for the reply, but I do have to humbly disagree with the philosophy. I don't believe that sticking a knife into a log between shaving firewood into spoons should break the tip off. I've seen videos of people throwing this knife into trees, beating them into logs, stabbing and prying etc with no issue. The tip snapping off from sticking it into a log, not ramming it or trying to slam it in but simply sticking it in so that I can grab funny enough my Mora which is also stuck into the same log is not user error, something was not right with the blade, perhaps the heat treat I am not sure. I do agree with ya on the batoning, its awesome for that and de-limbing small downed trees and saplings the thing is awesome. I was going to go with the SCHF9 but I preferred the straight blade to the curved *shrug* great knife other than the tip breaking.

My replacement got here from Taylorbrands and has been put back into use :) so all is well, unless another tip breaks off. I'm not sure I'll have full confidence in the knife not to break but for $32 if it does its not a huge investment either way.
 
Nietz said:
Thanks for the reply, but I do have to humbly disagree with the philosophy. I don't believe that sticking a knife into a log between shaving firewood into spoons should break the tip off. I've seen videos of people throwing this knife into trees, beating them into logs, stabbing and prying etc with no issue. The tip snapping off from sticking it into a log, not ramming it or trying to slam it in but simply sticking it in so that I can grab funny enough my Mora which is also stuck into the same log is not user error, something was not right with the blade, perhaps the heat treat I am not sure. I do agree with ya on the batoning, its awesome for that and de-limbing small downed trees and saplings the thing is awesome. I was going to go with the SCHF9 but I preferred the straight blade to the curved *shrug* great knife other than the tip breaking.

My replacement got here from Taylorbrands and has been put back into use :) so all is well, unless another tip breaks off. I'm not sure I'll have full confidence in the knife not to break but for $32 if it does its not a huge investment either way.
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I fully agree. I look at that tip and on purpose I do not stab it or throw it. Like I said before, for such a thin tip it gets real thick behind it. A setup for a failure up there. A slight geometry fail on their part but in return it slices great all the way to the tip. The mora is thin all the way down, more room to flex all the way down. My F37 way out performs it's price point and if the tip ever does decide to break, I'll just reshape it knowing the tip won't be so weak anymore. Another part of the problem is they do their heat treat noticeably harder than similar style blades by the popular brands, so that has to contribute to a weak tip as well. So far mines been tough and the higher HRC does keep a great edge. It's been a pure winner for me since I got it.
 
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