"Ask Ranger Gingrich!!!" (just about anything you want )

Kevin
Sorry I can't help you there all we have here is a prc (prick) E6, 1 gallon of rotor wash, couple cases of hateorade, Oh and I have a can of prop blast that has never been opened and only dropped once. If you are interested in any of these items I would be more that happy to send you a list of the NSN numbers so your REMF's can get right on that.

Justin :D
 
Isn't that more or less what you are Justin?

I am very sorry many may not know what this means. But, trust me, it is very funny. Just pokin my brother.

I hope you are briefing/brushing Andy up on his acronyms Justin.

We have one around here you will need to know bro........

BTT^
 
Yeah...I'm gettin' better at the acronyms. Last time I "poked" at Justin, you timed it with your watch while Justin gave me a remedial course in pressure points and choked me out on the front lawn of RTB, as you recall :)

Maybe you're lookin' for a shot at the title? :D
 
Well let see all I can say to that GPB is "This man would be invaluable in time of war, But is a disturbing element in time of Peace."
 
King Tut
Yes I went to Airborne school. However I did my best to never be a towed jumper. And so far so good. I have logged over 100 jumps with no problems.
 
...yeah, except your knees are shot, back is nearly broke, and you whine about jumpin' on Saturdays....other than that, yeah, you got no problems! :D

Now if I could only convince you that I WANNA BE ABLE TO COMPLAIN LIKE THAT TOO!!!!!!!!! But that's another conversation....I'd have to have a satellite phone during Basic though...could you get that worked out for me? :) Also, you have to tell them that a 33 year old is not GRAMPS in TRAINING. There will also be no "Private Prisco's Too Old" signs hanging on the fences at Benning.
 
Towed jumpers are those who have failed, through one way or another, to properly deploy their parachutes after exiting a high performance aircraft while in flight. Their static lines have not pulled their D-bag's free from the parachute, and as a result they are busy buffing the paint on the side of the aircraft.

This could happen for a variety of reasons, be it operator headspace & timing (the typical culprit) to probably the most interesting case I ever saw - a rigger using white 550 cord instead of the cotton breakaway string when packing a chute.

Needless to say, it's an unpleasant experience and the source of much amusement for spectators not directly involved.

Kevin
 
Spark, from what I've heard shotty ANG pilots can be another factor.
(That's if they get you to the DZ. ;) )
 
Ok
Here is the deal Spark is right most of the time it is the jumpers fault that they become a towed jumper. Usually it is from a weak exit from the aircraft which allows you and your equipment to snag on a part of the aircraft. When this happens you will definetly know it. You will recieve the opening shock of your life and watch United States Airforce Get big and small as you bounce off of the side of the Aircraft. The pilot has nothing to do with towed jumpers.

What branch of service are you going to King Tut?
 
Andy
Sounds like you want another shot at the title. Want to make it 15 seconds this time? :D
 
:D LOL, bad Andy. No pizza. ;)

Andy sorry to ask mil. question's on your board, if you feel they're out of place feel more than free to delete them.

Staff Sergeant, I'm almost positive I'm going Army.

1.)What is a Specialist. SPC/4 - E-4. It's a rank I haven't encountered in any other service, and my family is clueless. (All marines, sailors and airmen.)

2.) I was talking to my recruiter and I was under the impression that I couldn't get a jump slot until I was 18. (Age of active service.) I was watching a special on jump school last night and there was a 17 yr. old going through the school. Is this common?

Thanks
 
No apologies necessary on the mil. questions. That's why this thread is here!!! I am so glad this thing has taken off!

And Justin....15 seconds my @$$....I just let you off the hook cause Col. Baron came outside and said, "What the @##$ is goin' on here?"

For everyone's benefit, I'll report what happened as well as Justin's reply to the Col....which was "Chokin' out a sponsor sir!!!!"

To make a long story short, I thought Ranger training didn't include any hand-to-hand combatives that would give me a problem...WRONG!!!!

After Justin threw me around the front lawn of the Ranger Training Brigade the first day I was down there for Best Ranger, Col. Baron, RTB's Commander, walked out of the building to find Justin chokin me while I was furiously tapping out on the grass to get him to stop...which he promptly did. :D Frank Butterworth timed it....30 seconds. I lost the bet!
 
A Specialist is an E-4, which while technically is the equivalent of corporal, is not the same in authority. The specialist ranks came into being to keep paper pushers from getting bossy with line troopers (or so it's told). Specialist used to go all the way up to E-8 IIRC, but it's not important because all the rest were thrown out years ago. The Specialist E-4 is the last vestige of this.

A Corporal, on the other hand, is the lowest ranked *true* NCO. They are expected to be troop pushers, and generally get all the drawbacks of being an NCO and few of the perks. Since it's usually a place keeper promotion, it's something to be endured :D

If you get to a line unit, what you'll find is that E-4's who have not yet attended PLDC and are not yet promotable (through lack of points or time in grade) will be Specialists, and there will be many of them.

On the rare occasion where it's needed because of troop shortage neccessitating an NCO in a slot or outstanding acheivement from the soldier in question, the E-4 may receive a lateral promotion to corporal. Typically it's a sign of trust from the chain of command to do this.

Speaking from personal experience, the 12B MOS was so critically understrength in lower EM's, but so full in E5+, that you'd rarely see a specialist get promoted except maybe twice a year when the zone scores dropped. So, there'd typically be a corporal or two in the company before they were promoted to SGT E5.

Second, your recruiter is full of crap. If you can go into the military, you can go to jump school, you just have to volunteer. The youngest person in your class gets dubbed "keeper of the wings" and their job is to always have a set of jump wings on them (provided), clean them, polish them, and make them look pretty. It's something of an honor, and if the keeper zero's out, it's a bad omen. Usually never happens.

Third, if you can't figure out how to exit the aircraft correctly, god help you. I've seen guys jumping mortar baseplates, Dragon missle jump packs, M60s+radios, etc. It's pretty hard to screw it up unless you are negligent, especially with "walk out the door" which is what we were using in 91-4. If you are completely ate up, you might manage to route your static line incorrectly, get it caught on a riser assembly or catch your equipment on the door (though I can't see how), but those things are few and far between.

Ranger Justin is more up to speed with the current standards, he can fill you in more.

Finally, Andy, 33 years old qualifies you to be in the special Geritol section of basic... ya old bastid!

Kevin
 
Once again Spark is all over it. Not much has changed in Airborne school since he went through in 91 and me in 92. They still have the keeper of the wings (which I was). As for your recruiter he is full of it. I was 17 when I joined the military and was 17 in Airborne School. Matter of fact my 18th birthday was also my first day in 3rd Ranger Battalion. Talk about a b-day that you will never forget. As for the difference in civilian and military skydiving or jumping. There are too many difference to name from procedures to aircrafts. All around it is different.

Oh and ANDY Don't talk just Bring it!!;)
 
Staff Sergeant, you, as well as anyone else who's BTDT may want to check out this site.

In the army section there is a forum dedicated specifically to Ranger's. Most of the poster's are from third Batt. but there are a few gentlemen from 1st and 2nd. Pay no attention to any ankle biters that seem to sound off to much. (Few and far between, and the alumni usually smoke 'um anyway.) Although I did get toasted once for making the mistake of thinking a tabbed cook was a pogue who got through Ranger training. I learned very quickly MOS dosen't dictate combat capability. ;)

P.S.

Andy, do you like it rough or what? :D
 
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