Best "Altoids" tin survival kit for sale.

[Hammer67]

Or they may be people with limited space/weight. Makes sense either way. Neither is right or wrong.

Yup - I totally get the limited space/weight thing. Obviously, any kit is going to have various size/weight constraints, but thinking you can truly fit a real "survival" kit into an Altoids tin has always seemed a bit suspect to me at best, and a piece of kit that gives false confidence at worst. Either that, or you live in an extremely mild environment. Even stepping up to something like a 4" x 6" pouch or dry box allows for the inclusion of more realistic items than a 2-1/4" x 3-1/2" tin. At a certain point, if your size/weight constraints are really that small, you've got to be realistic about what your micro-kit is actually going to be able to do for you.

 

[ThriftyJoe]

At a certain point, if your size/weight constraints are really that small, you've got to be realistic about what your micro-kit is actually going to be able to do for you.

I'm always baffled by all the tiny items in the smaller kits that don't seem that useful. It's like they're trying to make the contents list as long as possible. Safety pins, wire, a couple of very small Band-aids? So imagine yourself in a real survival situation. You got lost on a short day hike that was supposed to be a couple of hours, or maybe a back country mechanical breakdown or plane crash. What do you need right now?

If it's getting cold and/or raining, I need extra insulation and rain gear immediately. If it's getting dark, I need a flashlight with batteries that will last several hours. I need a GPS so I know the way to the main road, so I don't walk in circles or in the wrong direction like James Kim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim). It doesn't do any good to walk in a straight line if it's taking you deeper into the woods. If it's several hours or days to town, I need a water carrier plus some way of treating it. I won't really need food any time soon.

If I'm too injured to walk out (broken leg etc.), I don't think I will use a machete to build a shelter or a fire. I need a warm sleeping bag and the simplest possible instant shelter to crawl into. That's all I am able to do. Maybe a signal device like a PLB or a mirror or just a cell phone, if I have to sit and wait for rescue. If I'm injured, it would be helpful if my shelter and/or rain gear were blaze orange.

I'm not going to build rabbit snares. Not going to fish. Two Tylenols are not going to help me. I don't need a tiny razor knife or duct tape or a sewing needle to survive. Somewhere I saw a kit with one small piece of hard candy. Yes, I can think of a possible use for all those miscellaneous items, but they're not what I really need.

I can just picture myself shivering and wet, sun going down, no idea which way back to town, with half a dozen safety pins and a stick of gum. Oops.

 

[cowsmilk]

Looks like the size of the kit has been predetermined by the OP to fit the sheath in the first post. Unfortunately, any mentions of a kit of a different size will be counter productive to the request of the OP.

 

[MDQBox]

 

[Hammer67]

I'm always baffled by all the tiny items in the smaller kits that don't seem that useful....Yes, I can think of a possible use for all those miscellaneous items, but they're not what I really need...

Exactly.

If you really, truly only have a 2-1/2" x 3-1/4" space within which to put the things you need to supposedly "survive" that's one thing, and you better be honest with yourself about how truly useful such a kit is actually going to be.

But what gets me is that it seems like more often than not, people just arbitrarily choose a tiny container first, when they could probably actually carry more than that, and have a much more useful and practical kit that might actually help them in a real scenario. Most of us don't really need to be limited to something that tiny, and constraining oneself that much if you don't really have to gets back to what I said earlier - it becomes an academic exercise for people to talk about on forums, or take pictures of the contents of, next to their immaculate ESEE.

Either way, try taking your Altoids kit, and nothing else, into the backcountry for several days, and get back to us...

 

[worldwood]

Really I asked a specific question and asked if you couldn't answer or provide info on ones for sale please don't post.

I ask again, if you can't answer please don't post. Obviously some of you think you know more than everyone else.

I don't want to report post but will, feel how you want about it, start your own thread about why you don't like them but leave it out of this thread please.

I have spent 50 days straight in the bush, if you have not just leave quietly please. I have stayed months in the Korean jungle, can you relate?

I have went 4 days with my boots and a knife...several days with additional kit sounds lovely.
I don't own any esee knives. Don't like there ergos.

Now please if you can't discuss which kit is better for sale please don't post.
You don't know peoples background and skill set.

 

[Bowman1911]

Really I asked a specific question and asked if you couldn't answer or provide info on ones for sale please don't post.

I ask again, if you can't answer please don't post. Obviously some of you think you know more than everyone else.

I don't want to report post but will, feel how you want about it, start your own thread about why you don't like them but leave it out of this thread please.

I have spent 50 days straight in the bush, if you have not just leave quietly please. I have stayed months in the Korean jungle, can you relate?

I have went 4 days with my boots and a knife...several days with additional kit sounds lovely.
I don't own any esee knives. Don't like there ergos.

Now please if you can't discuss which kit is better for sale please don't post.
You don't know peoples background and skill set.

You've got a Ratmandu! Who needs an Esee?! LOL

 

[worldwood]

Exactly! I will always have a few ratmandus

I'm locking this up before a peeing match starts, thanks everyone that helped I will be getting the best glide and removing some contents to add room for others then shoving it all in the esee tin because the best glide tin istoolarge for the pouch. Also getting the survival resources one as well, might use that tin, it looks small enough.