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Does anyone know how the 0170-6C steel of the Camillus generation BK7 compares with Ka-Bars 1095 cro-van BK7?
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Check out this link. http://www.knifeart.com/steelfaqbyjo.html
From what I've read on the forums here and elsewhere they are essentially the same steel type. How the heat treat is done may be different and could make a difference in performance in theory, but both companies know (knew) what they are doing.
Bottom line is they are both excellent and I doubt you'd ever know a difference in use.
From what I've read on the forums here and elsewhere they are essentially the same steel type. How the heat treat is done may be different and could make a difference in performance in theory, but both companies know (knew) what they are doing.
Bottom line is they are both excellent and I doubt you'd ever know a difference in use.
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Thanks for the input Shearwater. I have a tan Camillus version and figured the Ka-Bars would be on par but was wondering if there might be any noticeable difference in the whole ease of sharpening vs. edge retention equation. After doing a bit more digging I found this thread from a few years back:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3652898
Fun stuff. Thanks again.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3652898
Fun stuff. Thanks again.
My brother is a proud former Marine and he collects KaBar USMC combat/utility knives.
Comparing the two Camillus BK&T vs KaBar, we believe that the steel used in the Camillus BK&T knives takes a keener edge than KaBar's 1095 CroVan... but only moderately. KaBar's steel seems a little bit softer (which would make it more shock resistant), but again, only moderately.
Short comparison:
Camillus 0170-6C - slightly harder steel, slightly keener edge.
KaBar 1095 CroVan - steel not quite as hard as 0170-6C, slightly stronger steel.
* When I say KaBar's steel is softer, I'm not saying it's soft and weak like some cheap pakistani import blade. It's a little bit softer compared to 0170-6C. The folks at KaBar have been working with 1095 for a long time and in my opinion they are experts in the industry when it comes to that particular grade of steel. I prefer KaBar's 1095 to any other 'production' knife in that steel. While it won't take an edge quite as sharp as 0170-6C, it will come really close and it will certainly take an edge you can shave with and it will hold that edge well. The trade-off is the KaBar BK's should prove to be a bit tougher in the field than the Camillus models.
I'll be able to tell more when I finally get a KaBar BK7 and compare the two, which is a good excuse to buy one I reckon.
Comparing the two Camillus BK&T vs KaBar, we believe that the steel used in the Camillus BK&T knives takes a keener edge than KaBar's 1095 CroVan... but only moderately. KaBar's steel seems a little bit softer (which would make it more shock resistant), but again, only moderately.
Short comparison:
Camillus 0170-6C - slightly harder steel, slightly keener edge.
KaBar 1095 CroVan - steel not quite as hard as 0170-6C, slightly stronger steel.
* When I say KaBar's steel is softer, I'm not saying it's soft and weak like some cheap pakistani import blade. It's a little bit softer compared to 0170-6C. The folks at KaBar have been working with 1095 for a long time and in my opinion they are experts in the industry when it comes to that particular grade of steel. I prefer KaBar's 1095 to any other 'production' knife in that steel. While it won't take an edge quite as sharp as 0170-6C, it will come really close and it will certainly take an edge you can shave with and it will hold that edge well. The trade-off is the KaBar BK's should prove to be a bit tougher in the field than the Camillus models.
I'll be able to tell more when I finally get a KaBar BK7 and compare the two, which is a good excuse to buy one I reckon.