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Bushcraft Killed the Mora 911. Bonus Mora firecraft!!!!!

Discussion in 'Wilderness & Survival Skills' started by Woods Walker, Jul 3, 2016.

  1. Woods Walker

    Woods Walker

    Jun 3, 2010
    Just a Mora knife rant and bonus Mora firecraft.

    Rant mode.

    As Bushcraft increased in popularity gear makers naturally wanted to cash in. Seems anything with "bushcraft" within the product description means a premium in pricing so Mora needed to do something which is only natural. So how does one make a Mora Bushcraft knife? Simple...... Lets go back maybe 10 years to the 911. What is a Mora 911 and why can't you buy it? Well that's all part of the rant. What knife is that on the top with black and red handle? It must clearly be a Mora Bushcraft line knife as it has the exclusive Mora Bushcraft style handle and sheath. These are all features of Bushcraft line.

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    Maybe it's the new Mini Black? A more economic carbon bushcraft knife for 20 dollars without a funky coating as some believe not coated knives cut better? No it's around a decade old if my memory is correct and was one of the most popular Mora knives. The 911, which predates the Mora Bushcraft line. Remember Bushcraft and survival was and still is on the rise!

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    So how did they make the lower green handled knife, the Bushcraft Triflex? First Mora took the handle and most of the sheath from a 10 dollar knife, the 911 and then the Blade from a 12-15 dollar knife, the Mora 780 Triflex. Combine them together and I mean everything including both prices and we had a 25-30 dollar knife. It was magic and there would be more to come.

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    But there was a problem. Everyone knew the 911 is or rather was a 10 dollar knife. There was a 946 in 12c27 as well. Worse still everyone knew Mora knives were great but inexpensive. How exactly does Mora expect to one day sell a Mora Pathfinder? What to do? Just look at the magnitude of the problem. Mora had to get people to pay more money when their 10 dollar knives really did most things many Mora customers honesty needed hence why they were and still are popular.

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    Orange Companion. 9.99
    911 around 10 bucks as well.
    Old school Clipper the same.
    Funny green Companion 8 bucks last week!
    Mora number 2. Maybe I paid 10.99 but not sure today.

    What to do? The Mora 911 and 946 had to die despite being fantastic knives and probably great sellers. The 911/946 handle was to be incorporated into the more expensive, exclusive Bushcraft line. How another person spends their money isn't my biz and clearly I am a Mora customer of all kinds. Just saying sacrifices were made in the past IMHO.

    Rant over.

    Now on to the Mora Firecraft. Don't get me wrong, ranting is fun but practicing skills is better. For today's firecraft practice I am going to start two fires, one sustaining with only a Mora 911 and firesteel. The other will be getting flames but not a sustaining fire as that would have already (with luck) been accomplished with the 911. I will need to find everything else in the woods. For the second fire I am going to use just a Mora #2 and either charcoth or chaga. The rest of what's required like the ferro rod fire will need to be foraged.

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    Tulip Poplar bark is a step below cedar bark IMHO but really not all that bad. I need a tinder bundle for the chaga or charcloth. Will also ignite with a ferro rod.

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    Quartz will both strike a spark off a ferro rod or high carbon steel. Found these rocks then processed them for sharp angles aka smash!

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    I think this is dead dry Golden Rod. If not something like it so will make for a good first layer kindling. It rained all night so wanted stuff off the ground. Anything off the ground tends to have less moisture.

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    Yellow Birch bark. Hydrocarbon rich. It's my go to tinder in my AO. Burns like gas soaked rags.

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    At this point my camera battery died so had to use the Sony AS20's camera for pics which isn't as good. Plus it's kinda hard to take pics and film video at the same time from the same device. Basically sorry for the bad pics. We are all setup for the Mora firecraft.

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    Ferro rod and traditional flint and steel methodologies. I will be using the Mora 911 and Yellow Birch bark to start a sustaining fire. After that the Mora #2, charcloth, foraged/processed rocks and foraged/processed Tulip Poplar bark to get flames.

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    Raised back trig fire in an U ring. The ferro rod and Mora 911 easily ignited the bark. Took all of a few seconds. The Mora #2, quartz, charcloth and tulip poplar bark took maybe 10 minutes as required more processing and effort. It didn't go easy but worked as seen in the video.

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    Here is a video showing the actual ignition and rant! Crazy ranting!

    [video=youtube;nPP1Mnl4GWc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPP1Mnl4GWc[/video]

    Thanks for watching.
     
  2. pinnah

    pinnah

    Jul 28, 2011
    Nice post.

    Given a 911 and a Compainon, would you pick the 911 and why?
     
  3. tek77

    tek77 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 9, 2009
    I see your point. Same thing happen to the old 510 I assume....one of my all time favorite mora knives. But not a cash cow for Mora....not at the price they were selling it anyways.

    Cant blame mora for trying to catch up on the bushcraft trend and cashing in. Their knives are stil the most affordable bush knives out there, still the best ratio quality/investment you can get.
    Got no problem with that. I just hope they'll continue to keep the less expensive knive around, while they start producing the more expensive ones.
     
  4. Halfneck

    Halfneck Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Never took a shine to the Mora Bushcraft style handle. Much preferred the 760 Craftsman or plain old 510 over it. Even like the new Pro C over it.
     
  5. neeman

    neeman Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Please rant on why they have discontinued the Classic in the laminated blade and leather sheath
    RANT!!!!
     
  6. SAK Guy

    SAK Guy

    Jul 2, 2013
    +100 on the old 510's
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  7. The Zieg

    The Zieg

    Jan 31, 2002
    Had a great 911 Quicksnap. Dog chewed up the handle. Rehandled it and back in business. I agree with the rant. The 911 rocks and should be brought back.

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    Zieg
     
  8. AreBeeBee

    AreBeeBee

    928
    Sep 3, 2013
    Very nice rehandling job! At first glance, it looked to me like a new top-end Finnish puukko.
     
  9. sharp thoughts

    sharp thoughts

    244
    Oct 24, 2000
    Enjoyed your post and video as always.:thumbup:
     
  10. The Zieg

    The Zieg

    Jan 31, 2002
    Thanks! Hickory axe handle, bull hide bolster, epoxy for adhesive, BLO for wood treatment, and lots of sanding. The hardest part was getting the old, dog-chewed rubber and plastic handle off. For anyone worried whether Mora plastic handles are well affixed, I can assure you they will never come off unless you really work at it with a saw. I know my handle is not as well affixed!

    Zieg
     
  11. pinnah

    pinnah

    Jul 28, 2011
    Can anybody defend the 911 over the Companion? Would be curious as to why. Not baiting. Seriously curious.
     
  12. Codger_64

    Codger_64 Moderator Moderator

    Oct 8, 2004
    Nice post with a lot of information. But it does ignore the chief factors in price creep, namely the devaluation of currency exchanged and the ever rising cost of production, marketing and transportation. I recently did some investigation of one of my favorite patterns and found that the original MSRP of $20-$25 in the early to mid 1970's equates to over $100 today, figuring just the devaluation of the dollar over the intervening time period.
     
  13. AreBeeBee

    AreBeeBee

    928
    Sep 3, 2013
    Hmmm. Another project to consider. I don't have a wrecked Mora to start with, but they are so inexpensive that I can always wreck one for the sake of an experiment....
     
  14. pinnah

    pinnah

    Jul 28, 2011
    Can't you buy Mora blades?
     
  15. AreBeeBee

    AreBeeBee

    928
    Sep 3, 2013
    Of course. But I suspect it's almost cheaper to order a finished knife ($15 postpaid) than chase a blade and shipping, and it is easier to order a finished knife than a blade.

    As per the OP, this is why Mora is trying desperately to move the product line up the price spectrum. And note that their new model, the Garberg (almost called it the Gargle), will come in at nearly $100.
     
  16. metricmat

    metricmat

    66
    Oct 16, 2015
    Hey tek77 (and all of us!) you're in luck! Mora re-released the 510 a few years back but only to the American market, in black, and a few dollars more than it used to be.
     
  17. tknife

    tknife Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 18, 1999
    These are great points on the changes Mora has made. As long as they keep low cost/high value knives, I am all for them adding all manner of other more expensive ones. (But I do have extra 510's, Companions and even some Clippers as backups...Just in case!)
     
  18. The Zieg

    The Zieg

    Jan 31, 2002
    Yeah, I'll be picking up a 510. Love the design and had one 100 years ago. Need another because I simply don't have enough knives. :rolleyes: Pinnah, I just prefer the feel of the 911 over the Companion. The little finger notch gives me a better grip. But I wouldn't turn down a Companion. It needs no defending, it's a solid design!

    Zieg
     
  19. Mannlicher

    Mannlicher

    Nov 19, 2008
    thats ok, I never thought much of Mora knives in the first place. :)
     
  20. alewn

    alewn Banned BANNED

    130
    Jun 22, 2016
    I don't pry or baton my knife, I use my little cold chisel or wooden wedges. For the actual knife needs, an Old Hickory, which will strike sparks and can be sharpened on a pc of sandstone, and which can be found at almost any thrift store for $4 or less. :) The biggest "threat" to a knife is it's being lost, or left behind someplace. There's just no danged way that I'll risk $100 to such stuff, much less $300. Doing so makes no sense.
     

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