Chef knife becoming serrated

The Japanese don't use steels out of tradition. It has nothing to do with the hardness of the steel they use.


actually, it does matter.....

most kitchen "steels" run about 61HRC, it doesn't make alot of sence trying to use one on a knife that has a hardness of 64.

and it also has nothing to do with tradition. You can't hold the bevel from the edge to the shinogi if you're useing a steel on a single bevel blade.
 
actually, it does matter.....

most kitchen "steels" run about 61HRC, it doesn't make alot of sence trying to use one on a knife that has a hardness of 64.

and it also has nothing to do with tradition. You can't hold the bevel from the edge to the shinogi if you're useing a steel on a single bevel blade.

I steel blades all the time with pot lids and the feet of dinner plates. Steels don't have to be hard. You're talking to someone who does this every day.

It has everything to do with tradition. The Japanese have never steeled blades. They aren't about to start now.

We aren't talking about single bevel blades. I don't steel those either.
 
we're going to have to agree to disagree hee.
The OP is obviously have a problem with "steeling" his knife.
Could it be technique?Sure could.
Could it be the Knife is harder than the steel, could be and thats causing the OP to push harder, causing chips.
and Honestly, to try and sharpen anything on something thats softer than the edge is sillyness. Why not just use a brass rod?
A steel is just a super fine file. they have to be harder than the edge, especially if the assertion is that the steel is "burnishing" the edge.
 
Hi SShepherd, I think we are talking about smooth steels here, the ones that don't have any ridges. These are not files. You can in fact "steel" with a brass rod if you are careful. You would probably use an edge-trailing stroke if you use something much softer than the knife blade.

You are taking advantage of geometry to allow bending the thin apex of the edge with something with more bulk behind it. You know that you can bend a coat hanger wire with the flesh and bones of your fingers although the steel of the hanger is harder than your fingers. You can also smooth out dents in sheet steel using a brass hammer. A brass rod can bend a steel edge if you use the rod to apply force on the side of the edge.

My suspicion is that telcontar has a steeling problem, but there are certainly other problem candidates. The thing that raises my antennae is that he starts out describing the symptom of his problem by remarking on how he feels bumps when he runs a smooth steel along the edge. If he hadn't said that I would have wondered about his cutting board, whether he cuts bones of any kind with this knife (including fish bones), and whether he has ever done a thorough job of sharpening of his blade (to get rid of the problematic factory edge).
 
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