Choosing a Hiking and Every day Use Knife

Svord
Drop Point 3 3/4 Model 350B
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General Purpose 6 1/4 Model 870BB
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Length of Blade (inches) 6 1/4"
Over All Length (inches) 11"
Blade Shape General Purpose
Handle Material Mahogony and Brass
Steel Specifications 15N20
Blade Thickness (mm) 2.2mm
Sheath Leather
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You wanna baton, get a hatchet or thick machete.
 
I would definitely recommend Mora as well. Its by far the sharpest knife I have ever used and its incredibly cheap. In fact I actually buy Mora blanks to make bushcraft knives (so a modded Mora with custom handle and sheaths). I would go with stainless. I'm very pleased with its performance. :)
 
another question about the mora: do you all suggest the carbon steel version or do yall go with the sandvik stainless steel?

I like them both. If you want the slightly thicker heavy duty Companion, carbon is your only option.

I have both and prefer the normal Companion in stainless
 
For a folder - you can't go wrong with a Spyderco Delica 4. An excellent EDC and so will carry and use well in the field too. One hand deployment, comes with a pocket clip for super easy access, light weight, easy to sharpen and will maintain an edge. Cost - about
$ 55.00 new - sometime less expensive if you buy on BF off the exchange.

The Opinels are excellent too but ease of deployment can be compromised by humidity. Still, they are very cool and carry light if you don't mind 2 hand openers. I prefer one handed opening in all situations these days except maybe for a knife that I carry for dress up occasions - nah - I still prefer one hand deployment. :cool:

My everyday trail knife is an Endura but probably a bit bigger and more expensive than you need.
 
For a folder - you can't go wrong with a Spyderco Delica 4. An excellent EDC and so will carry and use well in the field too. One hand deployment, comes with a pocket clip for super easy access, light weight, easy to sharpen and will maintain an edge. Cost - about
$ 55.00 new - sometime less expensive if you buy on BF off the exchange.

The Opinels are excellent too but ease of deployment can be compromised by humidity. Still, they are very cool and carry light if you don't mind 2 hand openers. I prefer one handed opening in all situations these days except maybe for a knife that I carry for dress up occasions - nah - I still prefer one hand deployment. :cool:

My everyday trail knife is an Endura but probably a bit bigger and more expensive than you need.

Thanks man. And Im actually liking the endura as well. My only concern is I've read it is not as heavy duty due to the thinness of the blade. Any opinion? Also, I was initially a little thrown off by the shape, but I am reading it is actually very effective for what I would need a pocket knife to do. And yea I always prefer a one hand deployment as well even when I'm fancied up :cool:
 
Svord
Drop Point 3 3/4 Model 350B
290518759.jpg


General Purpose 6 1/4 Model 870BB
P1000985.jpg

Length of Blade (inches) 6 1/4"
Over All Length (inches) 11"
Blade Shape General Purpose
Handle Material Mahogony and Brass
Steel Specifications 15N20
Blade Thickness (mm) 2.2mm
Sheath Leather
http://www.svord.com/index.php?id_category=31&controller=category

You wanna baton, get a hatchet or thick machete.

You guys are making me want soooo many knives and sharp things :highly_amused::highly_amused:
 
On the blade thickness on folding knives - I personally never quite understood why there are so many folding knvies with thick (0.15" +) blades - the blade itself is held on a tiny ball bearing ring (way smaller than 1/2" in diameter) - so that is the place where the knife would fail if you misstreat it. On top of that - thick blade will get stuck in stuff if you need to slice through. One of the most stable blade attachments systems is probably on the Sebenza - it runs on rather large washers, so the blade can probably take more abuse/mistakes. Yet the blade itself is not particularly thick (given the knife size). About the only reason for a thick blade on a folder IMO is to have a wide spine when you want to push down on it with your thumb (when pus cutting a wire or such). But that is not what you need when hiking. Just my opinion, of course.

The blade on my Mora is about 0.1" thick and would certainly handle light batoning (what would be awkward anyhow as the knife is too small and too lightweight for that). If you require strong and heavy blade (to build a shelter or prepare firewood) than it will be, well, heavy. In that case I would get some camp knife that chops well and a large-ish folder with thin blade to take care of food stuff - possibly one of the large SAK knives (depends whether you need the tools too).
 
For a general purpose hiking/camping blade, weight is really quickly going to be your enemy. I really love some of the options that have been presented so far, I think the ESEE 3 is a great knife. But when you consider that a knife half its weight means that much more food, even half a bar of chocolate seems like a great idea. to go heavier than that means something else is going to get left out. Now depending on your location and the terrain, maybe its not a big deal, but when other gear starts to add up, a lighter knife is well worth it. Yes it is possible to break a mora, but you have to want to. and price wise, there is no comparison.

When you are looking at your target knives, think about where that money went. Is there a lot of flash and dash, or is it simple and robust. did you get 50$ of design or 50$ of engineering. really simple robust folders like the rat 1, and its kin, or the lower priced spydercos are not going to be as flashy, but you get solid construction, and they are very good value. Same goes for the lower cost swiss armies. Sure you can baton to your hearts content, or just carry an alox farmer and use a saw like a civilized human (no offense to batoners) Tool for the job.

The endura and delica are popular for a reason. No they might not be the prettiest, and opening one up won't make the angels sing, but it will make your sandwich. You probably don't need much more knife than that, and if you do, a mora will cover you for now. I say for now, because the collection will grow. If you are into shelter building and have access to a place to do that, then sure get something bigger and heavier, but in that case you are not buying a knife, you are replacing your tent, or your stove, so then you should think about things in that way. Saws, small axes and machetes then also become options. But for the average tent and stove camper, there is no reason to go for much more than what you are looking at. Then as time progresses and your tastes and needs become more defined, then by all means spend away. I think you'll be far happier with two knives light enough to carry than stuff that sits at home.
 
Sounds like if you want a folder to go with that Mora, your best option is a Victorinox. The non-knife tools will be useful, and believe me, you will use them and wonder how you ever lived without it.

Great decision in going for a Mora, they're fantastic knives. Just remember that it's a knife and was not designed for batoning, prying or any other such abuse. If you want something stronger than the Mora I recommend a Buck 119 or, if you're willing to spend significantly more, a Cold Steel Outdoorsman.
 
Thanks man. And Im actually liking the endura as well. My only concern is I've read it is not as heavy duty due to the thinness of the blade. Any opinion? Also, I was initially a little thrown off by the shape, but I am reading it is actually very effective for what I would need a pocket knife to do. And yea I always prefer a one hand deployment as well even when I'm fancied up :cool:

I have been using one Endura as my EDC Work knife now pushing 7 years. It really works - I'm a cabinetmaker who also spends a lot of time in the field doing remodeling so it has cut all kinds of construction material as well as prepped a lot of lunches. I keep it clean and sharp, use it as a knife and not as a pry bar or paint can opener and it has never complained about the work. Actually tried a Delica for this work but found it too delicate compared to the endurance of the Endura.

As for multi-tool knives - I've had a 1/2 dozen over the years, always thinking that I should find all those tools in one place useful but as tools they are just one level above pitiful and as knives they are surrounded by too much other shit to shine. MHO - oh boy - I might be in for a lashing now :eek: Anyway that's just my experience and 2¢. I don't deny anyone the pleasure of their preferences.
 
There is no 1 knife that will cover all your needs effectively - especially in your price range. For a EDC folder I recommend the Spyderco Endura/Delica. For your hiking needs I recommend a Mora fixed blade and a Victorinox that has the saw and tweezers. If you already have a pair of tweezers in your first aid kit, than I recommend you get the Victorinox Farmer.

Those 3 knives will cover most of your needs. If you are concerned about breaking the tip on the full flat grind Delica/Endura than get the standard sabre grind.
 
Buck 110. Great outdoors knife and EDC.
Sheeple do not generally find the 110 (or the 112, if you want something a little smaller) threatening, and most LEO's do not consider them a "weapon".
If you want a modern one hand opening, the Ontario RAT 1 would be a good choice.
 
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I got by fine this weekend with just a Mora Classic #1 (carbon steel) and Victorinox Farmer.
 
I carry a vic SAK almost all the time. I go for mostly the larger size, but it depends if I carry another knife and what I'm doing. The Vic Centurion (or side locking Adventurer) are generally where my preferences lie. But the smaller Tinker is hard to beat. Lots of folks like the Pioneer. I think you would be generally covered by any traditional slip joint equal to or larger than a peanut pattern.

My opinions relate to general carry and day hikes from a base camp (usually car camping) or one and possibly two nighters where weight is not the dominant rationale for making choices.

Hard to beat a Spydie Delica or Endura for a modest knife that is durable and dependable. I prefer the Delica (smaller), but that's me.

I do think you should consider a Mora Companion or something similar. Good value and useful. Call it part of the education. I personally prefer a more robust 4-6" fixed blade. You'll figure out what you like and don't like. But the Delica, Vic's, and Mora will get to started and cover most of your needs. Pinnah makes good recommendations; I just never tried a Opinel yet. But the multi-tool suggestion is sound for back packing for small non-routine cutting tasks and potential equipment repairs.
 
Mora is a great choice. My pref is the carbon steel model but the stainless is excellent, too. If you look around you can find one of their laminated blades, too.
 
After years of spending waay too much $ on knives made of the latest super steel by the latest super maker, I've come to truly appreciate Moras. I use a carbon steel Clipper for most tasks because the blade is thinner than the stainless models. However, carbon steels tend to give a metallic flavor to fruits and veggies, so I also have a stainless Companion for food prep. Moras are so light in weight and dirt cheap to buy, I usually have both - one on me and one in my pack....
 
You need a knife you can depend your life on but $50 is your limit? So your life isn't worth $60? 80? 100? hmmmm

Ontario RAT 1 or 2
Cold Steel Recon 1 or Mini Recon 1


For a *real* hiking, camping, exploring knife, get a fixed blade ...

Mora Companion HD
Martini Condor
Buck Omni Hunter 10PT or 12PT
Kabar BK&T BK14 or 16
ESEE 3 or 4
 
The thinner fixed blades are real cutters. I think folks often buy the robust 1/4" bar steel knife and then decide that they don't want to carry it often or when they do carry it, it tends to be only used occasionally in favor of a folder with thin blades. That has been my experience and your's maybe different. Not saying that the robust knife does not have a key role to play, but from a practical point of view I tend to think 1/8" (+/-) steel knives are more useful depending on the grind.
 
The endura and delica are popular for a reason. No they might not be the prettiest, and opening one up won't make the angels sing, but it will make your sandwich. You probably don't need much more knife than that, and if you do, a mora will cover you for now. I say for now, because the collection will grow. If you are into shelter building and have access to a place to do that, then sure get something bigger and heavier, but in that case you are not buying a knife, you are replacing your tent, or your stove, so then you should think about things in that way. Saws, small axes and machetes then also become options. But for the average tent and stove camper, there is no reason to go for much more than what you are looking at. Then as time progresses and your tastes and needs become more defined, then by all means spend away. I think you'll be far happier with two knives light enough to carry than stuff that sits at home.

^^THIS^^

Putting this into a larger context, in helping a bunch of friends get into hiking and backpacking, my sense is that appropriate and healthy uncertainty tends to translate into a "bring it just in case" sort of mindset. This is across the board and relates to all equipment & kit choices. Heavier sleeping bag, just in case. Extra clothing, just in case. Extra food, just in case. Extra fuel, just in case.

IME, it takes a combination of book (or forum) study and experience to understand why excess pack weight is so dangerous and how to reduce pack weight while still having the right stuff to deal with the "just in case" scenarios.

This is a knife forum so it's understandable why knife craft is so important here in these discussions but there are other crafts and skill sets involved in backcountry travel: stove-craft, tent/tarp-craft, clothing-craft, navigation-craft. When you're in the wood, one must trust one's gear with one's life. Cold, hungry, tired and facing a worsening storm, one needs to be able to trust that in a matter of minutes, you can have a reliable shelter up, a reliable source of cooking heat going to warm up hot liquids and food, and reliable clothing and sleep systems that will get you warm and dry quickly.

My advice to people starting out (and Hiker91, this is my advice for you too), is to get a stove that is appropriate for your region (several considerations) and then make tea or coffee on it every day for a month in your back yard, regardless of the weather. This seems ludicrous, I know. But if you can light your stove every day for a month, a) you will learn every quirk and issue with your stove and b) you'll drive the skill deep enough into your memory that you can wander into any camp site, cold, wet and exhausted and know that you will have a functioning stove in a matter of minutes.

I also recommend that people regularly practice making a fire in their back yard. It's a good skill. IME, > 90% of the time, batonning isn't necessary. Making shavings and feather-sticks is a good way to help a fire along. A solid folding knife is sufficient.

Carrying a big, heavy knife is not a substitute for good stove, tent/tarp, and fire making skills.

Once you have solid stove and tent/tarp skills, the primary reason for carrying a knife is food prep. Once you have good fire making skills, you don't need a fixed blade in nearly all situations.

This doesn't mean all situations. There are definitely places and times where a fixed blade makes sense, but IME the locations and conditions where it's needed for safe travel are relatively few.


Great decision in going for a Mora, they're fantastic knives. Just remember that it's a knife and was not designed for batoning, prying or any other such abuse. If you want something stronger than the Mora I recommend a Buck 119 or, if you're willing to spend significantly more, a Cold Steel Outdoorsman.

In the Buck line, I think the new imported Selkirk is more compelling, as is the larger Punk. IMO, if I'm going to pack the weight of a fixed blade, it had better be able to baton well. My problem with hollow grind blades when batonning is how they tend to bind and jam badly.
 
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