CRKT?

RoyalHolic said:
they're a lot better than Gerber
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Made in Pakistan (from old truck fenders) 🤢🤢🤢🤢 FROST🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 knife shaped objects are "better" than the Gerber lockback I had a few years back. (currently spread out in a Florida Keys land fill. "SPREAD OUT" because it was sent in pieces, over a 3 week period The blade was a "U" since it didn't break. I clamped it in a vice and TRIED to break it with a few blows from a 3 pound half-jack/masonary hammer.) I believe Gerber "forgot" to heat treat the blade.

It WAS magnetic, so not made of a not heat treatable stainless like 314 or 318.

I sent it to the landfill in pieces over a 3 week period to ensure no one tried ro "rescue" it.

That was my first, AND LAST Gerber knife shaped object.

No younglins here in excess of 38 years, so no purchases of ANY Gerber product. 😁👍

(the "Bear Grilles" things are a joke. EVEN THAT FRAUD S.O.B. don't use the 💩 with his name onnit.🤯😳🙄)
 
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afishhunter said:
Made in Pakistan (from old truck fenders) 🤢🤢🤢🤢 FROST🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 knife shaped objects are "better" than the Gerber lockback I had a few years back. (currently spread out in a Florida Keys land fill. "SPREAD OUT" because it was sent in pieces, over a 3 week period The blade was a "U" since it didn't break. I clamped it in a vice and TRIED to break it with a few blows from a 3 pound half-jack/masonary hammer.) tI believe Gerber "forgot" to heat treat the blade.

It WAS magnetic, so not made of a not heat treatable stainless like 314 or 318.

I sent it to the landfill in pieces over a 3 week period to ensure no one tried ro "rescue" it.

That was my first, AND LAST Gerber knife shaped object.

No younglins here in excess of 38 years, so no purchases of ANY Gerber product. 😁👍

(the "Bear Grilles" things are a joke. EVEN THAT FRAUD S.O.B. don't use the 💩 with his name onnit.🤯😳🙄)
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To get a good Gerber you need to spend quite a few bucks, even Gerber has a few gems though.

I will say I bought a Flatiron in D2 for like 20$ something this before Christmas maybe blackfriday last year while it's not outright horrible it's a bit rough with lock stick and hot spots, will say the blue denim micarta is actually nice.
 
Fantastic beater knives! I have a couple and it's not gonna be a great edge retention like supersteels, its not a fancy knife. But it is very reliable, strong, will do whatever you ask of it. And safely. That flipper keeps your fingers from getting sliced and the auto second safety keeps the liner lock from ever closing on your fingers.
 
I own several CRKT knives, a small plain edge M16 variant (M16-01KS), I also own a big boy Tanto (M16-04KS) and one of the M21 knives with the Veff serrations that I found sticking out from under some leaves on a trail in the Blue Ridge Mountains. I have no idea how long it had been there, but there was no corrosion so I brought it home, cleaned it up and sharpened it.
I have carried all three quite a bit, and honestly I think they are pretty good. A lot of people on here hate on them, but my opinion is they are solid budget knives and they take a really nice edge. I am not a CRKT fanboy, but I like them OK. I would say go for it and give it a try.

I know a lot of folks in the military are not necessarily knife folks, but I think the CRKT offerings were some of the more commonly purchased items on base and most of the reports I have heard from folks who carried them on deployment was pretty positive for what that's worth.
 
JTR357 said:
I'd go with a RAT 1 in place of the M16. Better materials at the same price point. CRKT used to be pretty decent like a decade ago, but they've been going downhill ever since.
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Agreed,I do have a rollicking of theirs that's cool,and two of the Michael walker blade locks
 
Knife’s gotta look good to me, too. I haven’t yet seen a Rat with a blade shape or overall design I like enough to want to buy one. I would buy a M16 if I didn’t already have a bunch with similar blades. But that’s just me. Yes, I’m that shallow.
 
chevyrulez1 said:
I own several CRKT knives, a small plain edge M16 variant (M16-01KS), I also own a big boy Tanto (M16-04KS) and one of the M21 knives with the Veff serrations that I found sticking out from under some leaves on a trail in the Blue Ridge Mountains. I have no idea how long it had been there, but there was no corrosion so I brought it home, cleaned it up and sharpened it.
I have carried all three quite a bit, and honestly I think they are pretty good. A lot of people on here hate on them, but my opinion is they are solid budget knives and they take a really nice edge. I am not a CRKT fanboy, but I like them OK. I would say go for it and give it a try.

I know a lot of folks in the military are not necessarily knife folks, but I think the CRKT offerings were some of the more commonly purchased items on base and most of the reports I have heard from folks who carried them on deployment was pretty positive for what that's worth.
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CRKT probably has a contract with AAFES which puts them on every base, odds are a few misguided sould will fall victim 😁 I had on CRKT when I was young, and when I lost it I started looking around and I stumbled upon ZT, the rest and my retirement at 40 is history!
 
Ozmose said:
The M-16 is the only knife I've ever had literally fall apart in my hand. I'm sure I just got a bad one, but it was enough for me to never buy another CRKT. There are so many good budget options out there now, it's just not worth it. Probably better off with a Kershaw. If you don't mind buying Chinese. Civivi, QSP, and CJRB are all amazing for the price.
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CRKT is generally made in China anyway. What kills me about CRKT, Kershaw, and some other companies I used to love is how far they've fallen behind on their Chinese-made budget lines. In many cases, they are still running the same materials today as they were before Civivi came onto the scene. Starting around 2018, there has been a real Renaissance in Chinese knives and the budget scene in particular. Now you can get much higher quality for better prices.

I've seen afishhunter afishhunter rocking the traditionals so I have to ask about modern designs with wood scales. For instance, this $40 Sencut has much better action, fit, and finish than what you can expect from CRKT. Also, its 9Cr18Mov with a good heat treatment will cut circles around the 8Cr14Mov on a CRKT.

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Chronovore said:
I've seen afishhunter afishhunter rocking the traditionals so I have to ask about modern designs with wood scales. For instance, this $40 Sencut has much better action, fit, and finish than what you can expect from CRKT. Also, its 9Cr18Mov with a good heat treatment will cut circles around the 8Cr14Mov on a CRKT.
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I'm actually familiar with 9CR18MoV🤯😳
This (offshore BTI) Old Timer 858OTB Lumberjack stockman has that blade steel.
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I don't have any 8CR14MoV, but do have a few 7CR17MoV (also offshore BTI or Taylor Old Timer's, and one offshore Taylor Schrade Hammer Brand. My offsfore Schrade/Old Timer's seem to have a good/excellent heat treat.)
Both the 9CR18MoV and 7CR17MoV will take and hold the keen 10° per side/20° inclusive edge angle long enough, that I was taught to sharpen to ~60 years ago.
I'll guess the 8CR14MoV, being between the two will take and hold the keen edge, as well?
I'm looking at some budget Kershaw and Civivi now, as well.
That Sencut you show is a good looking knife. 👍 I'm primarally looking for a drop point blade now though.
Was "hoping" for a modern take on the Sodbuster pattern (with Micarta covers to match my new (large 4.25" closed) Case 10375 stockman.)

In my opinion a 'True Sharp' bladed full size Sodbuster at $40 to $50 is over priced. (and not available dressed in Micarta, anyway. 🙄)
The stockman is curently paired with a Case Sodbuster Junior ... I want the large version. 🙄
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afishhunter said:
... That was my first, AND LAST Gerber knife shaped object. ...
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I have to agree. Several months back, I finally determined that I was gonna learn freehand sharpening if it was the last thing I do. Took a while, but I finally got the hang of it. So then I went and retrieved the 30 or 40 pocket knives, sheath knives and kitchen knives that we've accumulated over the years, and tried to sharpen them all. I succeeded in getting them all darn near razor-sharp, with the exception of 2 knives: One was a POS kitchen knife from (I would guess) the 1950s or '60s, and the other was a large Gerber Paraframe. No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to get that knife sharp...or I could get it "kinda sorta" sharp...but the next day it would feel dull again.

The "funny" thing is, shortly after I bought that Gerber Paraframe, I was using it (I forget how), and the liner lock failed and the knife closed on my hand, giving me a minor cut on one finger. I sent it back to Gerber under warranty and asked them to fix it, and we spent MONTHS going back and forth with letters on exactly how it happened, and how bad the injury was (Band-Aid), and all this other ridiculous BS ... I guess their lawyers were afraid I would sue them, when all I wanted was for them to fix my liner lock.

Had I known then what I know now -- that the steel is apparently worthless pot metal -- I never would have bothered.
 
I got a Gerber Fastball a few months back. It’s a very nice knife, no build issues, nice action, solid lockup, does its job well. Just sayin’.
 
Gerber makes decent stuff if you shell out the money for it.

I would even recommend the Flatiron in D2 for 22 bucks, just don't expect perfection or anything.

Their fixed blades like the Strongarm and Prodigy are pretty good all though overpriced these days.
 
afishhunter afishhunter I've got a few CRKTs, I've always loved the design of the M16 and M21 series. Tell ya what, I'll give ya one of these if ya want? Just holler at me and I'll send it over to ya. 🤙 They're both basically brand new. The M16 has the auto-lawks, and the M21 has the manual lock, so whichever you prefer.
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JTR357 said:
This [Otanashi Noh Ken] is the last CRKT I have left. It's pretty huge so it doesn't get carried much but it's a good solid knife.

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Among others previously mentioned, I've still got a "Otanashi Noh Ken" and a "Hissatsu."

This discussion of "how bad" CRKTs are has renewed my interest in the brand and I'm looking to buy (&/or repurchase) a few CRKTs again now. ;)
 
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Their very early stuff was nice like the lightfoot urban shark and the mirage, and S 2 for example , but those days are long gone …
 
goldie said:
Their very early stuff was nice like the lightfoot urban shark and the mirage, and S 2 for example , but those days are long gone …
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You can still buy the "old stuff" but a lot of it is going for premium pricing now-a-days. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I have these two...



The Batum is not a bad knife if you don't mind its very non-pointy point and the annoying finger choil. I tend to use it for silly things you probably shouldn't use a knife for, like digging and prying.

The 8Cr13MoV Pangolin is the least edge-holding knife I own, falling very far behind Sypderco's Tenacious in the same steel. It loses its edge so quickly I rarely use it for anything.

Those things said, I still like some of their designs, though I remain picky about what I'll spend money on, some of the James Williams designs catching my eye, and the deadbolt lock.
 
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