Fire axe head ID

Square_peg said:
Warren made some boys axe sized fire axes. Their model name was 'Celebrated'.

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Very cool
 
One day I will own one. I don't care I won't have any use for it.

Fire axes are like Sandra Bullock to me, or whatever celebrity that you can't say why, but find her very charming :).

As the youngsters say: "Come at me, bro." :)
 
We may all fell ill, should you ever show us the "do not sell stack". Curious as we may be, please don't do it :).
 
Square_peg said:
Warren made some boys axe sized fire axes. Their model name was 'Celebrated'.
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Very cool. Wonder how old that one is.
6 pounder is min. as truck/apparatus carried equipment nowdays, That size not permitted, but does not prohibit it carried as individual kit or wallhang as emergency kit in some kind of facility or vehicle.
If I remember right, 4 pounders are min. under one of the maritime jurisdictions. Said that, Washington Ferries are equipped with 6 pounders. Their older vessels carry mostly Plumbs, ( 50-ish years of wallhanging, could all use a wedge tightening at least) the newer vessels carry Council tool.
 
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Maybe she wasn't the best example to illustrate after all :). "Demolition Man"...oh boyyyyyy!
 
The little Warren weighs 2 3/4lb and came on a 24" haft. Warrens full size was a 36" haft and weights from 3-7 lbs.
That is from their 1937 catalog.
 
Lieblad said:
Square_peg said:
Warren made some boys axe sized fire axes. Their model name was 'Celebrated'.
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Very cool. Wonder how old that one is.
6 pounder is min. as truck/apparatus carried equipment nowdays, That size not permitted, but does not prohibit it carried as individual kit or wallhang as emergency kit in some kind of facility or vehicle.
If I remember right, 4 pounders are min. under one of the maritime jurisdictions. Said that, Washington Ferries are equipped with 6 pounders. Their older vessels carry mostly Plumbs, ( 50-ish years of wallhanging, could all use a wedge tightening at least) the newer vessels carry Council tool.
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This one is 2-3/4 pounds.

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Sorry for sidetracking the thread.
 
Interesting to see a Warren stamp of 2 3 being used to depict 2 3/4 lb. This substantiates Steve Tall's conjecture of awhile ago about fractional head weight stamps being a function of quarters (ie 3 2 means 3 2/4 lb, instead of 3 1/2 , as is stamped on many USA-made heads ) whenever the second numeral is elevated.
 
300Six said:
Interesting to see a Warren stamp of 2 3 being used to depict 2 3/4 lb. This substantiates Steve Tall's conjecture of awhile ago about fractional head weight stamps being a function of quarters (ie 3 2 means 3 2/4 lb, instead of 3 1/2 , as is stamped on many USA-made heads ) whenever the second numeral is elevated.
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I can't take credit for that, since I read it somewhere. YesteryearsTools mentions it briefly:

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jblyttle said:
My research points to Shapleigh Hardware, can I get a confirmation? . . . given it's age it is in superior condition.
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rjdankert said:
What is its age?


Bob
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jblyttle said:
No idea. . .
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Steve Tall said:
The "crucible steel" stamp might mean that it was made before 1930-ish:

Crucible Cast Steel: 1750 - 1930
Crucible cast steel is made from broken up pieced of blister steel bar stock, which is inserted into clay crucibles along with small quantities of carboniferous materials (e.g. charcoal powder). After melting at high temperatures, crucible cast steel was produced in 5 to 25 kg. batches and was considered the best steel available for edge tool, knife, razor, and watch spring production. Due to lack of heat resistant clay crucibles, extensive production of high quality crucible cast steel didn’t begin in the United States until after the Civil War.
from Davistown Museum book quoted here:
http://billhooks.co.uk/edge-tool-making-and-makers/edge-tool-making-3-materials/

"Throughout the 19th century and into the 1920s a large amount of crucible steel was directed into the production of cutting tools..."
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucible_steel
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Steve Tall said:
Some more clues:

"After 1930, the one piece cast steel edge tools produced by Collins and other companies were not made from crucible cast steel, but from steel produced in the electric arc furnace."
(page 39)

"By 1940, the disappearance of both the puddled iron process and the crucible steel process seems to coincide with the diminishing quality of edge tools."
(page 62)

"For edge tool production, the electric arc furnace supplanted, and then replaced, crucible cast steel in the early decades of the 20th century."
(p. 172)


from Volume 11: Handbook for Ironmongers: A Glossary of Ferrous Metallurgy Terms:
A Voyage through the Labyrinth of Steel- and Toolmaking Strategies and
Techniques 2000 BC to 1950
Davistown Museum
http://www.davistownmuseum.org/publications/volume11.html
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The axe might also have been made in the 1970s.


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Bob
 
i havent seen many pick heads but i'v never seen one with the pick chipped. thats a chunky bit of steel ya got there
 
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