GEC bone dye

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by Mitt, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. Mitt

    Mitt

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    Aug 31, 2017
    I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this happening.

    I know GEC has had issues in the past with bone taking dye, but I wouldn't expect one to bleed like this. I picked up this 77 in last years run for a EDC around the office. I took it out of the leather slip it normally lives in and put it on the cloth bag for three days after freshening up the edge. When I picked it up I noticed the two red streaks where the dye has bled out. I haven't had any other knives do this and hope it not indicative of GEC.

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  2. GE Jr

    GE Jr Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 29, 2015
    I haven't experienced that on the several GEC knives that I have. I wouldn't recommend storing the knife in a leather slip though, as I've seen corrosion on an unused LB7's brass that was kept in it's sheath since new. Will it have an affect on the bone dye? Not sure.
     
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  3. sceva

    sceva Gold Member Gold Member

    605
    Sep 18, 2002
    what was previously in the bag? Perhaps there was a trace amount of some solvent or oil?
     
  4. akaMatt

    akaMatt Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 10, 2017
    I had the dye bleed off on my fingers from my waynorth lambfoot knife quite a few times after using it as a worry stone during my previously long commutes.
     
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  5. Onebigbill

    Onebigbill Gold Member Gold Member

    May 21, 2019
    I have often seen brass corrosion from leather contact. On rifle slings and knife sheaths. Not sure why and I could only speculate. o_O
     
  6. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    I've had some Case Red Bone bleed on me... maybe it's the red color?
     
  7. GaiusJulius

    GaiusJulius

    355
    Jan 9, 2016
    When the slabs of handle material are dyed they are dyed as raw pieces. Then the knife is assembled and the edges are rounded, so the dye is always thinner in those spots. May have something to do with the fact that the color difference is more visible. But I’d wager it’s bleeding everywhere, not specifically at the corners.
     
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  8. Mitt

    Mitt

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    Aug 31, 2017
    It is never in the slip all that long, overnight at the longest. The 77 doesn't have any brass. The nickel tarnishes some from being in the slip but nothing to worry about.

    It was the bag the slip came in. I don't see the knife coming on contact with anything on the bag that it wouldn't have while in the slip.

    It could be. I did have my 43 next to it, but its a frontier bone so no color to bleed out of it.
     
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  9. Will Power

    Will Power

    Jan 18, 2007
    Always need to be cautious with leather, it can contain dyes, solvents or other chemicals that do react with other dyes. Is that Barlow Sawcut? If so, the smoother edges may not take dye so well? Never had any dye bleed problems with any of my GECs, but a couple of Queens, an RR and a Custom:eek:
     
  10. knifeswapper

    knifeswapper Knife Peddler Dealer / Materials Provider

    Sep 3, 2004
    Generally a leather slip that is vegetable tanned instead of harsh chemicals will never be a problem for a knife. What color / maker is the slip? What "bag" did the knife come in? Are you certain the bag was completely dry when you put the knife in it? (I have left a little cleaner on bone before and it caused some dye to loosen)
     
  11. Mitt

    Mitt

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    Aug 31, 2017
    It’s a brown (not sure the color name) Hitch & Timber. The knife didn’t come in a bag, the bag is the one the slip came in. Both the knife and bag were dry when I sat it down. There is no oil or discoloration on the H&T bag others than where the knife bled. I only use mineral oil on my knives and sharpen them on ceramic so no oil used there. I haven’t oiled the blade since after I got it. I’m trying to get a good natural patina on the blade.
     
  12. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    It's true, and good information. :thumbsup:
     
  13. knifeswapper

    knifeswapper Knife Peddler Dealer / Materials Provider

    Sep 3, 2004
    Did you buy it second hand or directly?
     
  14. Mitt

    Mitt

    511
    Aug 31, 2017
    Bought it directly.
     
  15. knifeswapper

    knifeswapper Knife Peddler Dealer / Materials Provider

    Sep 3, 2004
    That is the first time I have seen one transfer dye. Can't help but think there is something going on there - but can't put my finger on it.
     
  16. Goose 7279

    Goose 7279 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jul 22, 2015
    It would have to be wet to transfer dye I would think or if you rubbed or polished it with the bag it could transfer.
     

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