Handgun slide milling/machining.

[STAINLESS90]

Negligence is negligence.

Dude I get it I work a job where I carry a handgun on a daily basis and have taught many family and friends how to shoot safely. My question is do you know of any specific companies that deal in slide modification or do you have any done? I'm not trying to be rude but if you don't maybe go start a thread on gun safety.

 

[Danke42]

That's not a press check. That's racking the slide.

Maybe you should watch and listen. Never know; you could learn something.

 

[Danke42]

Dude I get it I work a job where I carry a handgun on a daily basis and have taught many family and friends how to shoot safely. My question is do you know of any specific companies that deal in slide modification or do you have any done? I'm not trying to be rude but if you don't maybe go start a thread on gun safety.

If it was "me" I'd have this guy do it http://www.bowietacticalconcepts.com/servicesandshipping.html

But I wouldn't do it. I think the forward serrations are going the way of the trigger hook. I'd get him to do it ahead of the chamber.

 

[Zemapeli]

CCF Robar makes the best race frame glocks and robar replacement slides around.:thumbup: Good stuff.

 

[Krav]

I can just visualize someone doing a "xxxxxx-check" and accidentally discharging their firearm, losing the end of a pinky or ring finger in the process.

Even the most "skilled" (well, maybe not) operator can have a bad day:
[video=youtube;zw-jTCNZSmY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw-jTCNZSmY[/video]

Jeez, that was painfull to watch. Wonder how that happened. Maybe he failed to drop the magazine and a bullet was still in there.

 

[leghog]

Maybe you should watch and listen. Never know; you could learn something.

I watched. Doesn't change the fact that it.s racking the slide vs. a press check and that racking the slide is what's being taught.

Check out 1:32 press check keeping your hand away from the muzzle.

That's not a press check. That's racking the slide.

And just how far away is his guy's hand from the muzzle while using that technique? Also he shouldn't need to look at the handgun to rack the slide. Should still have eyes on target/down range when racking. That and the proximity of his fingers to the muzzle are why I captured this still from the video.

 

[Danke42]

He's using the same motion to press check as he is to rack the slide.

With the web of your hand pinching the slide just ahead of the ejection port you're not going to get your fingers or palm in front of the muzzle. Unlike the muzzle serrations that tempt you into the danger zone.

 

[BladeScout]

Get the serrations, if you like them. Some non-competition shooters dont understand them, dont like them (as often is the case, when you dont get something) and will try to dissuade you. Dont listen, just go ahead. There are many good smiths out there and its hard to go wrong with serrations if you pick a reputable smith.

On press check:
1911 pistols without recoil spring guide rod

Press check - weak hand thumb in front trigger guard, index finger in the front of pistol and under the bore over the recoil spring cap. Squeezing the thumb and index finger together slightly to open chamber far enough to see if pistol is loaded.

All pistols

Pinch check- weak hand under front of pistol, using thumb and index finger to squeeze slide at front and pulling to rear of pistol to open chamber slightly to see if pistol is loaded.

Press check was popular until recoil spring guide rods made it impractical.

 

[Sid Post]

Trust me, I know what a press check is. Pinching the front of the slide from underneath to unlock the pistol is not a press check. It's really a pinch check because the pistol cannot be press checked. I've owned, shot, and/or carried M1911A1s for a couple of decades. At one stage in my life I was loading and shooting ~10,000 .45 ACP cartridges a year. So, yes, I know what a press check is. If press checking is that important to you (and I really don't know why it would be), carry a pistol like the 1911 (without a full length guide rod---as designed) which can be press checked (truly PRESS checked). Again this is akin to form following function. But if you need front serrations for pinch checking because you don't have the weak hand strength to pinch check without them or your hands are wet/sweaty, just use the rear serrations. You'll be no less cool. Trust me on that.

And many truly skilled shooters get by just fine without front slide serrations and have done so for a very long time. Let's be honest about a few of things here --- press checking and pinch checking have absolutely nothing to do with skilled shooting (I've been an instructor and CRSO for much too long and have seen just about all to be convinced otherwise), and about the only time front serrations are truly useful is in some applications where a pistol has a telescope mounted, and the main reason pistols are sold with front slide serrations out of the factory is because people will pay extra for that tooling simply for the look and/or wanting to look cool while using them. Think about it --- why are there front slide serrations on a Glock 42/.380 ACP?

Press or Pinch checks have there place. I have yet to see a novice or infrequent shooter do a proper and safe one in class or at a range. There are lots of ways to go wrong with low experience levels. Skilled shooters can "usually" do it right and do it safely.

In my case, sweaty and/or oily hands with carpal tunnel issues meant front cocking serrations were important to me. I didn't always want to drop the magazine and rack the slide (catching an unfired round if the chamber was loaded).

Optics mounts that block rear serrations is a whole different issue. FWIW, I stopped counting rounds in my Glock at a 100K and I have loaded magazines in class to the point my fingers on both hands hurt (lesson to self ... you can't bring too many loaded magazines to class).

 

[RevDevil]

 

[Krav]

Any ways, I'd like to see some pictures after you get your slide done. How ever it may be.

 

[STAINLESS90]

Any ways, I'd like to see some pictures after you get your slide done. How ever it may be.

Thanks it probably won't be until after the holidays between the wait time and everything else. I'm leaning towards just having serrations cut from the rear all the way to the front on both sides. It's a little gun and I have large hands so I like would like to have as much positive purchase as possible.

 

[robgmn]

Semantics of the process aside, I wonder what percentage of non-wheel guns out there don't have a way to check the chamber without having to do anything more than look at the gun?
(NOT a loaded chamber indicator though. I mean actually seeing the cartridge or a portion of it).

 

[leghog]

Get the serrations, if you like them. Some non-competition shooters dont understand them, dont like them (as often is the case, when you dont get something) and will try to dissuade you. Dont listen, just go ahead. There are many good smiths out there and its hard to go wrong with serrations if you pick a reputable smith.

Don't assume those who might dissuade don't get it or are inexperienced.

On press check:
1911 pistols without recoil spring guide rod

Press check - weak hand thumb in front trigger guard, index finger in the front of pistol and under the bore over the recoil spring cap. Squeezing the thumb and index finger together slightly to open chamber far enough to see if pistol is loaded.

All pistols

Pinch check- weak hand under front of pistol, using thumb and index finger to squeeze slide at front and pulling to rear of pistol to open chamber slightly to see if pistol is loaded.

Press check was popular until recoil spring guide rods made it impractical.

Next time consider just posting a link to another thread on another site vs. lifting verbatim another's words/thoughts on the subject and pasting them here.

 

[Danke42]

Semantics of the process aside, I wonder what percentage of non-wheel guns out there don't have a way to check the chamber without having to do anything more than look at the gun?
(NOT a loaded chamber indicator though. I mean actually seeing the cartridge or a portion of it).

I can't think of anything short of open bolt SMGs that lets you view the chamber.

 

[robgmn]

I can't think of anything short of open bolt SMGs that lets you view the chamber.

I questioned it because I have a Sig pistol that allows one to see a small portion of the brass (or not if the chamber is empty) by pure visual inspection.
It got me to wondering if there were other pitols that were similar.

 

[Danke42]

SIG makes a lot of pistols, what model is it?

 

[Danke42]

You must be in MA.

Most weapons don't have that because for lack of a better word it's unnecessary.

 

[Sid Post]

Semantics of the process aside, I wonder what percentage of non-wheel guns out there don't have a way to check the chamber without having to do anything more than look at the gun?
(NOT a loaded chamber indicator though. I mean actually seeing the cartridge or a portion of it).

Mine don't. The chambered round is completely covered. Personally, I don't want to see brass through a visible "window" in the barrel.

Chamber indicators and magazine disconnects .... @#$@#$ Not in my pistols.

 

[Sid Post]

I questioned it because I have a Sig pistol that allows one to see a small portion of the brass (or not if the chamber is empty) by pure visual inspection.
It got me to wondering if there were other pitols that were similar.

Some older S&W autoloaders have that feature in the barrel hood.