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"Hard wire"?

Discussion in 'Multi-tools & Multi-purpose Knives' started by orca8589, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. orca8589

    orca8589 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 27, 2007
    I've seen a few descriptions of multi-tools being able to cut "hard wire". What exactly is hard wire? In my usage I have never cut anything harder than copper wire and standard steel wire.

    A recent review of the Gerber Center Drive showed that the cutter bits chipped when cutting hard wire.

    So, what's the max thickness of wire that the Center Drive (or any multi-tool with carbide cutter bits in the jaws) can cut?

    (07 Dec. '17) ETA - I always thought that the addition of the carbide cutters was for durability, not necessarily to cut 'harder' materials.

    ~Chris
     
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  2. yablanowitz

    yablanowitz

    Apr 14, 2006
    I'm pretty sure when they say "hard wire" they mean anything harder than copper, so a wire coat hanger is about what they have in mind as far as gauge and hardness. It takes a pretty darn good cutter to stand up to hardened steel like piano wire, I would expect that to damage a multitool. And yes, the carbide cutters are for wear resistance rather than the ability to cut harder material.
     
  3. orca8589

    orca8589 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 27, 2007
    Thanks. Yeah, I wondered about the review I saw. During the review below (@2:15) the reviewer says the stainless steel wire is 3/32", but he then mics it at .195, which is over 3/16". First, I'd never cut stainless wire with a multi-tool - mainly because my hand would hurt like hell for a day after (arthritis) - but also because I already have several dedicated tools for that kind of work anyway. Why wreck a good MT?

    For the first time in years, I'm actually excited about a new multi-tool hitting the market. I've always wondered why nobody ever engineered a MT that would take regular 1/4"-drive hex bits, without having to carry an extra adapter.

    I'm hoping Santa will bring me one. YES - if believing in a weird reindeer-poop covered fat guy will get me a new Gerber Center Drive, I'll believe in him. I promise. :D

    Here's the review if anyone's interested:


    ~Chris
     
  4. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv

    Feb 7, 2005
    I've had to cut relatively hard fencing wire with my multitools a couple of times, it damaged my SwissTool a bit. I learned my lesson and got into the habit of carrying fencing tools in my saddle bags.
     
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  5. yablanowitz

    yablanowitz

    Apr 14, 2006
    Have you ever heard of Spyderco's SpydeRench? Uses standard 1/4" bits, stores 4 in the handle and separates into two parts so you can use the adjustable wrench on one half to hold a nut while you use a bit in the driver on the other half to turn a screw. Long discontinued, but an interesting tool.
     
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  6. smcclown05

    smcclown05

    Oct 17, 2008

    Don't forget about the MP1. Takes standard hex bits and you don't have to worry about breaking those carbide cutters. I've used mine quite a bit and while I have a few small gripes I've found it to be a pretty good tool. I do want to get my hands on a center drive though:)
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  7. orca8589

    orca8589 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 27, 2007
    Thanks - I hadn't heard of this one 'til now. :cool:

    What deficiencies does it have?

    ~Chris
     
  8. PirateSeulb

    PirateSeulb

    518
    Jun 6, 2017
    I generally view my multi-tool as a back up or general purpose tool that won't see jobs like cutting hard wire I have real tools for those tasks.
     
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  9. smcclown05

    smcclown05

    Oct 17, 2008
    My biggest concern is that mine has developed a little play in the plier pivot. Seems it can be remedied by peening but I just haven't gotten around to it. Plus they used Velcro on the sheath instead of a snap. This is a pet peeve of mine and drives me crazy.

    I started a thread with my observations and a bunch of pics over on MTO if you are interested. https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74427.0.html

    I think the MP1 is priced too high but if you can get a good deal on one I'd say go for it.
     

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