how do YOU deal with gangs?

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i was just wondering... when a gang comes up to u, and trys to start ****? what do u normally do? would u try to avoid a fight?
or would u actually try to take on all those big black guys? post in
 
I wouldnt stereotype all gang members as "big black guys", I'd watch for my fellow asians in their little AZN klicks. Where I am we have all sorts of gangsters and would be "gangstas". The best is to avoid a confrontation. These "ganstas" usually wont want a fight on one on one, they like to have their freinds back them as well. Unless they gang up on you it would be difficult to explain to the police on why you knifed some unarmed hoods.


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ouch,
eah, man. been there. used to live in overlea/rosedale (outskirts of the lovely city of baltimore). it's gotten lots worse there, especially as you go farther south to baltimore (city). i just keep driving/walking, whatever. try not to look like a target. like walking confidently, as if i had a destination on mind, and know exactly where i am & where i'm going, head up, at a relatively brisk pace.
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aleX.

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I don't really have gangs around here. I live in a pretty rural Georgia town, about 30 min. from Atlanta, that is growing fast so we have a lot of developments going around here and really just went from being a hick town to a suburb. We've got these wannabe's that try and dress up like their favorite rap star or like some inner city thug. It's kinda sad really. I just stay the hell away from them when I'm out with friends. You know that there's at least one fight every Friday at the movies. Most of it is rival high schools. And since I'm not really involved with the football team or anything I'm just not around it that much. My advice would be to try as hard as you can to stay away from them, but if they confront you, just tell them you don't want any trouble. If all else fails, run like hell. Luckily, I've only been in one situation like that and it was quickly dissolved.

The best way to avoid these confrontations is keeping your head up. If your head is down, you look weak and scared. You must also be aware of your surroundings. Another thing is eye contact. If you happen to make eye contact with one of them, do not break it immediately. That also makes you look scared. But remember not to look to long, or then it seems like you want to fight. Just look at them for a moment and then break eye contact and keep walking.

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well you know, in the ghetto of Amherst NH you can't even walk your dog...
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but really, I'd just keep on walking, or avoid fighting as much as I could. I'd first run; if they followed me, it'd be their ass. Dual bali style yo
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Yah here where I am we have all sorts of wanna bes with bad cloths and quick tempers. I have the hard time with breaking eye contact and so usually they get up in face. This probably dosent work in other places but me and my freinds just beat them at their own. We act all hard and tough and they usually get scared at the thought of someone who is ready to fight back.

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I have the hard time with breaking eye contact and so usually they get up in face.
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It is really a double edged sword.

If break eye contact, your "dissin'" them (one of the reasons I hate to see the word "yo" used, it glamorizes that whole stupid mindset, intentional or not).

If you make eye contact, you're challenging them.

That is the way they want it set up so they can **** with whoever they want to. It is by design.

Best to handle each situation as unique.


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Some years ago a couple of friends & I found ourselves on a bus in Toronto (near Jane & Finch), on which nearly half the riders were wearing "colours." Being the obvious centre of their attention was quite disturbing, considering we had no avenue of escape. A couple of stops later, two skinheads got on. I've never been so happy to see someone wearing a union jack in my life.

Where I'm living now the biggest dangers are from the two or three biker gangs trying to establish their superiority (there have been a number of shootings, but only between rival gangs - Average Joe has been left alone so far), mullet-wearing welfare recipients, and drunk university/college students. The last two are really the most dangerous to the average Joe - over the last couple of years, people have been beaten to death, stabbed for trying to prevent a guy from stabbing his girlfriend, stabbed over taxis, intentionally hit by passing vehicles, etc.

Violence prevention tactics?

-keep your shoes/boots properly tied - if you need to run or maneuver quickly, you'll be glad you did
-don't wear hoods or other headgear that will obscure your vision and hearing.
-listen as much as watch - you can hear in 360 degrees, but you can only effectively see in about a 120 to 170 degree range.
-avoid eye contact, in the case of accidental eye contact hold it for a count of about three. As has been noted, too short will communicate fear to would-be attackers, too long will communicate a challenge.
-listen to your Mom! (Stand up straight! Look at me when I'm talking to you! etc.)
-don't go anywhere "armed" that you wouldn't go "unarmed."

Hope this all helps.

edit: Also, go do a search in Tactics & Training, as it seems the more appropriate forum for this kind of thread.

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[This message has been edited by willOthewisp (edited 06-23-2001).]
 
Carry a 5.56 Colt Commando in a trench coat with a 100 round drum
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Seriously, we have something of a problem with youth gangs in my area. They carry knives and that type of thing. The best answer is not a Bali, but a large fixed blade. Something like a Ka Bar or even bigger is the way to go. They see that, they run away or back down. You don't have to be a skilled MA to use the reach of a large blade to your advantage.

Still, if someone started using a Bali with Clay's skill, that would probably work as well...
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I avoid the places where this happens, if I get comments from affar, I ignore them. If it feels like something is 'going down' I make a point of looking at the group, slowing down and reaching into my coat. I adjust my walk to exagerate the fact that I am wearing a 'nasty bit of kit'. Even if I don't have a 7" blade strapped to me side under my coat I suddently walk thinking about it being 'right there'. THis is not the Monty Python of silly walks, but a subtle change of passive but aware, to semi agressive and 110% ready and not easy. Works in my patch of woods, but then my lot are teen cowards and not gangbangers.

When you talk about colours, you mean red/blue etc tht marks a 'gang'? In the UK there is a perception that 90% of gangs are black/hispanic. Is this true?

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It's all a self confidence/judgement thing.
If you have self confidence, and use good judgement, you should be able to talk/ignore your way out of most situations.

if you ever have to get into a situation where you need a balisong, or any knife, it should be treated in the same manner as a pistol.

Don't pull it unless there is a life threatening situation, then when you pull it, use it.
it's not all cool to flip, and twirl, and aeirals, but not in a combat situation.
You wouldn't spin your pistol around your finger in a combat situation either.
You may think the you are putting an intimidation factor on them, but you would be "out of control" slightly, and mentally distracted.

I haven't been in a fight since Highscool, but it's all about being cool with each other.
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">i was just wondering... when a gang comes up to u, and trys to start ****? what do u normally do? would u try to avoid a fight? or would u actually try to take on all those big black guys? post in</font>
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It's only due to the fact that we're basically nice people that this has received serious replies.

Just a thought,

Razor

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But you're right, of course. That's exactly what I thought when I first read that initial post.

BTW, Razor, I just loved the way you dealt with those two stupid gun-grabbers back at Practical Tactical. I can't stand the combination of ignorance and self-righteousness those idiots invariably display. Give'm Hell!
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Cheers,

Leo

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"Get yourself cooler lay yourself low
Coincidental murder with nothing to show With the judge constipation will go to his head And his wife's aggravation you're soon enough dead...It's the same old story Same old song and dance a my friend..."~Tyler

Some of my knives and other neat things...
 
Well, if you want the experience of a lifetime, look no further than hot, sunny Rio! Not a night goes by that I don't hear the staccato of full-auto and/or high-power rifles - and I live in what's considered a "decent" part of town.

I can hear you guys ask: "but aren't those illegal in your country?". Yes, says I - but for some strange reason, the gangbangers and drug dealers don't seem to care...
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BTW, tomorrow is "gun destruction day" here in Rio... Following their UN masters' orientation, the Socialist authorities will be destroying some 100 thousand firearms, in a public ceremony that would make German Nazy's book burners proud. All in the name of "peace"... I'm sure the criminals will be laughing their a**es off.

I know this is all very much off-topic - heck, the whole thread is - but I'm really angry right now and needed to rant a little. Sorry...

Leo

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I am not sure I am qualified to answer this question, sense I am close to 50 years old, and I live in a fairly safe place to live.

First of all, you can not show any fear at all. "Bad guys" are like dogs, and they can sense fear. Fear is a weakness to them, and if they can not sense any fear, they tend to leave you alone. At times, they will even show respect for you.

Also, you have to smile, treat people right, and bring out the best in them. Aggressive people do not go around beating up every person that crosses their path. In fact, they get into physical confrontations with very few of the people they encounter. You have to do something to even get their attention, or more to set them off.

Ever sense this World Federation of Wrestling began, there seems to be a few guys going around just looking for someone to take them on. The only problem is, the only power they have, is the power of what for me is the enemy. I have the power of God on my side. So, I make sure I am on good enough terms with God, that I have more of His power in my life, than they have the power of the devil in their life. The Bible says, one can send 1,000 to flight, as Samson killed 1,000 of the eneny, single handed with the jaw bone of an ass. Two can send 10,000 to flight. Because God and the angles are on their side, and it's God who fights our battles for us.

There is a story they tell about Mother Teresa. She was going to go into a area where bullets were flying between to groups that were at war with each other. They tried to talk her out of going into that area, but she felt directed by God, so she went in. As soon as she arrived, a peace settled over the area, and the cross fired stopped. As soon as she left they started to fight and the bullets began to fly again. At least that is the story I heard.

Another great story was written by David Wilkerson in the book "The Cross and the Switchblade". Where he went into the worst gang area of New York City to explain to them God's way of love & peace. He still has a good sized church in NYC where he has helped a lot of former prostitutes, drug addicts, gang members and so forth, to find they way to God and to leave their violent destructive ways behind them to take the road and the way of peace.

It's difficult to explain, but the bottom line is, that love is just more powerful than hatred. An Atomic bomb is not the most powerful force, because it can only destroy. The resurrection power of God, is far more powerful, because it give us eternal life. Thanks, JohnR7
 
slayerized: as long as he doesn't try to force it on you or make you practice it, why should you care? don't piss on those who think differently from you. leave people alone.
peace.
aleX.

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slayerized: as long as he doesn't try to force it on you or make you practice it, why should you care? don't piss on those who think differently from you. leave people alone.
peace.
aleX.

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did i say i have a problem with it? i dont mind i just dont think god has anything to do when abunch of gang members try to kick your ass


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