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In this tutorial I will show you how I made this sheath for a ML Knife. It would be very easy to use this basic idea for any knife you would like that is a basic bushcrafter:
Caveats:
There are many many ways to skin a knife - so please take all the advice and ideas in this thread as simply that - one way to make a sheath. You can supplement nearly every step in this process with another way or another tool that will get you similar results.
I will give a list of everything I used to make this sheath. It will seem daunting - but you do not need all of this stuff. I use it because it makes my life easier and I make quite a few sheaths for myself - and - frankly - I enjoy it. All of the stuff on this list cost me about 400 dollars (Leather included) but I could easily make 40 sheaths with the amount of leather and materials listed. Once you get good - sell a few - and you will easily make back your investment. If you just want to make stuff for you - take a careful look at the tools you see me using once - and the tools you see me using a lot. Make your list from there.
Also - I give lists from Tandy - but they make hobbyist quality tools. If you are thinking this is something you would like to do - you may want to invest in better tooling from the beginning. Again, watch to see what tool I use a lot, and maybe invest in a better tool for that one. If you only use it a little (like a snap setter or something) then buy the cheaper model. Just wanted to state that I have no fealty to Tandy - nor do I think they are the only kid in town. They are a little more ubiquitous and so you could get your hands on some of their tools a little more easily than others. Just something to think about.
Resources to read or watch:
a) If you were going to purchase one resource - buy Chuck Burrows "Custom Knife Sheaths". I learned more from one watching of this video than I learned in the first 6 months of trying to make sheaths.
B) Two Books: How to Make Leather Cases Vol. 1 and The Art of Hand Sewing Leather by Al Stohlman
Leather and liquids: (Use all of this stuff in a well ventilated area).
a) 8-10 ounce Leather is what I used - I wish now it would have been thinner. Perhaps 6-8 ounces. I use quality leather from Wicket & Craig. It is worth buying the good stuff. They usually sell economy sides of leather for about 100 dollars - this would make about 40 or so sheaths - so going in with someone on leather might be a great idea. If not - get the BEST double shoulder of leather you can get from Tandy. However, if you are going to splurg on anything - let it be the leather.
b) I used Light Brown Leather Dye Feibing's - but you can use any color you would like - just use QUALITY dye - not oil based - but spirit based.
c) Some sort of sealant. This is totally up to you - but I use my sheaths in the woods - so I want them to have as much water protection as I can get - without hindering the leather. I have found the best stuff to use is Montana Pitch Blend - Leather Dressing. This stuff is awesome for all leather sheaths. When conditioning and re-conditioning your other sheaths - this is a great choice. All natural and the 4 ounce tub has lasted me about 2 years.
d) Gum Tragacanth: This is a natural gum compound generally used in edging. I find with the Montana Pitch Blend it is not necessary - but it makes your edging SO shiny when done right. Get the smallest amount of this you can - a little goes a LONG way when edging.
e) Contact Cement. I use Weldwood Original Contact Cement.
f) Contact Cement Thinner DAP makes their own - if you cannot find it - get thinner with Toulene.
g) Some sort of Brush to brush on the contact cement. I would get two small bottles of Dap Contact cement and use one until it runs out - clean it - and use the brush in the cap of the empty bottle, half filled with cement thinner. This keeps your brush clean and able to be used when you need it. Simply clean off the thinner before you use the cement. I learned this trick from Chuck Burrows DVD.
h) Blue painters masking tape. This is used for the knife while I am wet forming. Get 3M and it will come off easy while protecting the blade. You can also use saran wrap on the knife while wetforming.
Tools I used:
a) #2 or #1 Edger
b) Strap edge punch - I use a English Strap end - but you can use whatever you want (and this is not necessary).
c) Safety Beveler (also known as a safety skiver)
d) A 13/64 hole punch - or you can buy a Maxi Punch set - so that you have a few extra holes you can choose from.
e) 000 Harness needle and 0 harness needles - you need one 000 and a bag of 0 Harness needles. .
f) Waxed Sewing awl thread. I used Natural thread to give it the sinew look.
g) A Drill Press. I use a inexpensive Asian drill press - I think it was 60 dollars new - it was donated to me by a buddy.
h) Adjustable Stitchgroover
i) Overstich Wheel - I am using a 5 Stitches Per Inch Wheel.
j) Bone Folder - This is not really necessary - as a bone or brass rod would allow you to do the same - but I use the bone folder for the straps a little more.
k) A bit of Antler for edging.
l) I use an automatic burnisher as well - this is a dowel made of hard wood (Cocobolo) that has been put to a lathe for specific strap sizes. This is certainly not necessary - but allows me to chuck it up in my Drill press and finish the edges quickly - but does not do a BETTER job than a bit of horn or the bone folder.
m) A D-Ring - I use a removable D-Ring (These can be purchased from www.hardwareelf.com)
n) 1/4 inch Chicago Screws (I use Nickle Plated)
o) Wool Daubers: Again - not necessary - you can 'dip' your sheaths in dye with the use of a tub of dye - but with these small sheaths - and done right - you can use these.
p) Freehand Groover: You could use just this instead of the guided one - but having both is nice.
q) Adjustable Strap Cutter. You don't need this - but it makes straps whatever size you want VERY easily. When you are making danglers - you simply cut a huge length of 1" straps and then use it to cut out danglers with. However, you can simply use a metal ruler and use a sharp knife to cut out 1" strapping.
r) A Sharp Nimble Knife. You need a good knife to make your initial cuts. I use a Bark River Mikro TUSK. However, I have seen Chuck Burrow's use simple utility knife for most of his cuts. And if you know Chuck's work - well it speaks for itself.
s) Granite Surface Plate. This is great for doing small tooling as well as setting your makers mark or any other work. I used it here for Skiving and other things.
t) Some sort of cutting surface. I have used a cutting surface from a hobby shop for hobbyists.
u) 1 3/4 English Strap End Cutter.
v) Two Spray bottles. One filled with Water - one filled with isopropyl alcohol
w) Adjustable V Gouge.
x) Metal straight edge ruler - 18 inches.
y) Needle nose pliers
z) A clean shoe buffing brush
Music listened to while making this sheath:
The Verve Pipe - Villians - other various songs.
Brian Vander Ark - Angel Put Your Face On - other various songs.
Tricky - Various songs
A-Ha - Take on me.
Public Enemy- Various
Credence Clearwater Revival - Various
Tribe Called Quest - Various.
BB King - Live from Cook County Jail.
Jack Johnson - Live from Boulder.
Doug E. Fresh - Various.
Fatboy Slim - Various.
Here is the knife I am starting with:
The Pattern:
The knife ultimately determines the pattern of the sheath in terms of what kind of welt you will need. In terms of what kind of sheath you want - this is dependent entirely on what you want your sheath to do for you. In this case, I made a simple fold over pouch sheath for a couple of reasons - first, is that I like it - and what I wanted for this sheath but - secondly, it is one of the simpler sheaths to make for those trying their hand at it.
Pattern making takes time, and frankly I am not focusing a ton on it. If you pick up the books I mentioned above or the DVD - the go into pattern making in more detail. What I will say here is that when making a pattern to use heaver stock when cutting out the pattern. This allows you to see what the sheath will look like when it is completed. I use Manilla folders to make my patterns out of and it seems to work just fine - however - the back of a cereal box works just as well.
Here is the pattern I came up with after about 4 iterations:
I would encourage you to leave ample room for your knife - especially if you have thicker leather (8-10 ounce is a quite a bit thicker and needs more room in your pattern than 6-8 ounce. Also - when you get your leather cut out - if you find it is too big - you can always tweak it some. I found that I tweaked my leather after I cut patterns a lot more when I started making sheaths than I do now. I tweak a little - but that is due more to aesthetics than anything else.
Also, be cognizant of your welt when making your pattern. Lay your knife on your pattern in the way it will rest in the sheath and then trace the blade - this will allow you to make a welt that you want. You want the blade to be almost resting on the welt - but have a little room (something like 1/16th inch) of space between the blade and the welt. I do it this way so that if the leather get's damp inside the sheath - at least wet leather isn't just sitting against the blade of my knife.
Also, the type of knife will depend on the kind of welt you can put into the sheath. With a knife that has a guard you can put a shelf in your welt that can serve as a stop while inserting the knife. Simply trace your blade and trace the guard so that the welt becomes a sort of shelf that prevents the knife from being over inserted into the sheath and causing the sheath to cut through your stitching.
This knife has no guard and thus the welt is one smooth radius that simple guides the blade into the sheath and allows for the most amount of surface area for the blade to come into contact with before getting to the stitching of your sheath. In my case, I like the look of a sheath that has been double stitched (I am not at all sure if a double stitch makes a stronger sheath or a stronger way to secure a sheath - but I like the looks and I don't think it compromises the sheath at all. What is does mean, though, is that I need a wider welt. You want your outer stitch to be about 1/8th of an inch away from the edge of the sheath - so with a double stitch I need 1/8th to the first stitch - 1/16th or so gap - a second stitch (1/16th) - and another 1/8th of leather between the blade and the stitching. This makes for a LOT of welt (almost 1/2 inch) - and some sheaths when paired with some knives will not look right with this much welt. You can see in my picture above that I have a lot of room left for the welt. Play around with your design. I tend to think that form should follow function - but should also look cool when it can, and does not ruin the function of the knife.
I don't use any rivets in my sheaths. I do not believe that they add any strength to the sheath - however - after talking to Mr. Marchand about this - I think certain rivets can be used to make a sheath almost impossible to cut through - and very safe. I think your stitching will be jacked up and the sheath will need repaired if the rivets (in this case more of a safety measure) are used - but I think they can make a safer sheath. Think about your use of rivets in your sheath and leave room for them if you decide to use them. Just know that rivets do not make a sheath hold together better - however - I think an argument can be made that they can make a safer sheath. It is all up to you and what you want from a sheath.
In this tutorial I will show you how I made this sheath for a ML Knife. It would be very easy to use this basic idea for any knife you would like that is a basic bushcrafter:
Caveats:
There are many many ways to skin a knife - so please take all the advice and ideas in this thread as simply that - one way to make a sheath. You can supplement nearly every step in this process with another way or another tool that will get you similar results.
I will give a list of everything I used to make this sheath. It will seem daunting - but you do not need all of this stuff. I use it because it makes my life easier and I make quite a few sheaths for myself - and - frankly - I enjoy it. All of the stuff on this list cost me about 400 dollars (Leather included) but I could easily make 40 sheaths with the amount of leather and materials listed. Once you get good - sell a few - and you will easily make back your investment. If you just want to make stuff for you - take a careful look at the tools you see me using once - and the tools you see me using a lot. Make your list from there.
Also - I give lists from Tandy - but they make hobbyist quality tools. If you are thinking this is something you would like to do - you may want to invest in better tooling from the beginning. Again, watch to see what tool I use a lot, and maybe invest in a better tool for that one. If you only use it a little (like a snap setter or something) then buy the cheaper model. Just wanted to state that I have no fealty to Tandy - nor do I think they are the only kid in town. They are a little more ubiquitous and so you could get your hands on some of their tools a little more easily than others. Just something to think about.
Resources to read or watch:
a) If you were going to purchase one resource - buy Chuck Burrows "Custom Knife Sheaths". I learned more from one watching of this video than I learned in the first 6 months of trying to make sheaths.
B) Two Books: How to Make Leather Cases Vol. 1 and The Art of Hand Sewing Leather by Al Stohlman
Leather and liquids: (Use all of this stuff in a well ventilated area).
a) 8-10 ounce Leather is what I used - I wish now it would have been thinner. Perhaps 6-8 ounces. I use quality leather from Wicket & Craig. It is worth buying the good stuff. They usually sell economy sides of leather for about 100 dollars - this would make about 40 or so sheaths - so going in with someone on leather might be a great idea. If not - get the BEST double shoulder of leather you can get from Tandy. However, if you are going to splurg on anything - let it be the leather.
b) I used Light Brown Leather Dye Feibing's - but you can use any color you would like - just use QUALITY dye - not oil based - but spirit based.
c) Some sort of sealant. This is totally up to you - but I use my sheaths in the woods - so I want them to have as much water protection as I can get - without hindering the leather. I have found the best stuff to use is Montana Pitch Blend - Leather Dressing. This stuff is awesome for all leather sheaths. When conditioning and re-conditioning your other sheaths - this is a great choice. All natural and the 4 ounce tub has lasted me about 2 years.
d) Gum Tragacanth: This is a natural gum compound generally used in edging. I find with the Montana Pitch Blend it is not necessary - but it makes your edging SO shiny when done right. Get the smallest amount of this you can - a little goes a LONG way when edging.
e) Contact Cement. I use Weldwood Original Contact Cement.
f) Contact Cement Thinner DAP makes their own - if you cannot find it - get thinner with Toulene.
g) Some sort of Brush to brush on the contact cement. I would get two small bottles of Dap Contact cement and use one until it runs out - clean it - and use the brush in the cap of the empty bottle, half filled with cement thinner. This keeps your brush clean and able to be used when you need it. Simply clean off the thinner before you use the cement. I learned this trick from Chuck Burrows DVD.
h) Blue painters masking tape. This is used for the knife while I am wet forming. Get 3M and it will come off easy while protecting the blade. You can also use saran wrap on the knife while wetforming.
Tools I used:
a) #2 or #1 Edger
b) Strap edge punch - I use a English Strap end - but you can use whatever you want (and this is not necessary).
c) Safety Beveler (also known as a safety skiver)
d) A 13/64 hole punch - or you can buy a Maxi Punch set - so that you have a few extra holes you can choose from.
e) 000 Harness needle and 0 harness needles - you need one 000 and a bag of 0 Harness needles. .
f) Waxed Sewing awl thread. I used Natural thread to give it the sinew look.
g) A Drill Press. I use a inexpensive Asian drill press - I think it was 60 dollars new - it was donated to me by a buddy.
h) Adjustable Stitchgroover
i) Overstich Wheel - I am using a 5 Stitches Per Inch Wheel.
j) Bone Folder - This is not really necessary - as a bone or brass rod would allow you to do the same - but I use the bone folder for the straps a little more.
k) A bit of Antler for edging.
l) I use an automatic burnisher as well - this is a dowel made of hard wood (Cocobolo) that has been put to a lathe for specific strap sizes. This is certainly not necessary - but allows me to chuck it up in my Drill press and finish the edges quickly - but does not do a BETTER job than a bit of horn or the bone folder.
m) A D-Ring - I use a removable D-Ring (These can be purchased from www.hardwareelf.com)
n) 1/4 inch Chicago Screws (I use Nickle Plated)
o) Wool Daubers: Again - not necessary - you can 'dip' your sheaths in dye with the use of a tub of dye - but with these small sheaths - and done right - you can use these.
p) Freehand Groover: You could use just this instead of the guided one - but having both is nice.
q) Adjustable Strap Cutter. You don't need this - but it makes straps whatever size you want VERY easily. When you are making danglers - you simply cut a huge length of 1" straps and then use it to cut out danglers with. However, you can simply use a metal ruler and use a sharp knife to cut out 1" strapping.
r) A Sharp Nimble Knife. You need a good knife to make your initial cuts. I use a Bark River Mikro TUSK. However, I have seen Chuck Burrow's use simple utility knife for most of his cuts. And if you know Chuck's work - well it speaks for itself.
s) Granite Surface Plate. This is great for doing small tooling as well as setting your makers mark or any other work. I used it here for Skiving and other things.
t) Some sort of cutting surface. I have used a cutting surface from a hobby shop for hobbyists.
u) 1 3/4 English Strap End Cutter.
v) Two Spray bottles. One filled with Water - one filled with isopropyl alcohol
w) Adjustable V Gouge.
x) Metal straight edge ruler - 18 inches.
y) Needle nose pliers
z) A clean shoe buffing brush
Music listened to while making this sheath:
The Verve Pipe - Villians - other various songs.
Brian Vander Ark - Angel Put Your Face On - other various songs.
Tricky - Various songs
A-Ha - Take on me.
Public Enemy- Various
Credence Clearwater Revival - Various
Tribe Called Quest - Various.
BB King - Live from Cook County Jail.
Jack Johnson - Live from Boulder.
Doug E. Fresh - Various.
Fatboy Slim - Various.
Here is the knife I am starting with:
The Pattern:
The knife ultimately determines the pattern of the sheath in terms of what kind of welt you will need. In terms of what kind of sheath you want - this is dependent entirely on what you want your sheath to do for you. In this case, I made a simple fold over pouch sheath for a couple of reasons - first, is that I like it - and what I wanted for this sheath but - secondly, it is one of the simpler sheaths to make for those trying their hand at it.
Pattern making takes time, and frankly I am not focusing a ton on it. If you pick up the books I mentioned above or the DVD - the go into pattern making in more detail. What I will say here is that when making a pattern to use heaver stock when cutting out the pattern. This allows you to see what the sheath will look like when it is completed. I use Manilla folders to make my patterns out of and it seems to work just fine - however - the back of a cereal box works just as well.
Here is the pattern I came up with after about 4 iterations:
I would encourage you to leave ample room for your knife - especially if you have thicker leather (8-10 ounce is a quite a bit thicker and needs more room in your pattern than 6-8 ounce. Also - when you get your leather cut out - if you find it is too big - you can always tweak it some. I found that I tweaked my leather after I cut patterns a lot more when I started making sheaths than I do now. I tweak a little - but that is due more to aesthetics than anything else.
Also, be cognizant of your welt when making your pattern. Lay your knife on your pattern in the way it will rest in the sheath and then trace the blade - this will allow you to make a welt that you want. You want the blade to be almost resting on the welt - but have a little room (something like 1/16th inch) of space between the blade and the welt. I do it this way so that if the leather get's damp inside the sheath - at least wet leather isn't just sitting against the blade of my knife.
Also, the type of knife will depend on the kind of welt you can put into the sheath. With a knife that has a guard you can put a shelf in your welt that can serve as a stop while inserting the knife. Simply trace your blade and trace the guard so that the welt becomes a sort of shelf that prevents the knife from being over inserted into the sheath and causing the sheath to cut through your stitching.
This knife has no guard and thus the welt is one smooth radius that simple guides the blade into the sheath and allows for the most amount of surface area for the blade to come into contact with before getting to the stitching of your sheath. In my case, I like the look of a sheath that has been double stitched (I am not at all sure if a double stitch makes a stronger sheath or a stronger way to secure a sheath - but I like the looks and I don't think it compromises the sheath at all. What is does mean, though, is that I need a wider welt. You want your outer stitch to be about 1/8th of an inch away from the edge of the sheath - so with a double stitch I need 1/8th to the first stitch - 1/16th or so gap - a second stitch (1/16th) - and another 1/8th of leather between the blade and the stitching. This makes for a LOT of welt (almost 1/2 inch) - and some sheaths when paired with some knives will not look right with this much welt. You can see in my picture above that I have a lot of room left for the welt. Play around with your design. I tend to think that form should follow function - but should also look cool when it can, and does not ruin the function of the knife.
I don't use any rivets in my sheaths. I do not believe that they add any strength to the sheath - however - after talking to Mr. Marchand about this - I think certain rivets can be used to make a sheath almost impossible to cut through - and very safe. I think your stitching will be jacked up and the sheath will need repaired if the rivets (in this case more of a safety measure) are used - but I think they can make a safer sheath. Think about your use of rivets in your sheath and leave room for them if you decide to use them. Just know that rivets do not make a sheath hold together better - however - I think an argument can be made that they can make a safer sheath. It is all up to you and what you want from a sheath.
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