Yeah, it's quite good. I didn't mean to suggest it was mediocre. I have one in 1085, which is actually less tough than 1075, but still, not bad.
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How likely are Becker knives to break in a survival situation?
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Damn, if I don't love a clip point. Especially a concave shaped one with a false edge, or a sharpened straight one. May not be everyone's preference on those two things, but it sure gives me the good butterflies.
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Methinks.....1) if you are in a survival situation& are fortunate enough to have that particular knife available you shouldn't be " whakin it with a big rock" 2) if you do & it breaks well.....too bad so sad.
They make plenty of small pry bars. I encourage everyone who has a decent sized knife to get one. I have a 7 inch pry bar on my trail pack, through the molle loops. Never use any hardened knife for prying, regardless of what some sites say. I know some of them say that Beckers can be used to pry. A knife is for cutting. Period. Prying is just a bad idea. But then so is bashing a knife with a giant rock. And condemning a knife on that basis is just dumb
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There are definitely a lot of good, portable pry bars out there. You just have to stay away from the tiny, thin ones that aren't up to much, because they don't give you much of a mechanical advantage. They need to be at least 5-6" long. I'm a big fan of the Boker Cop Tool.
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Disclosure: I a Becker Knife fanboy. I have a bunch of them and have used them a bunch - even abused some of them a bunch too. Some much in this thread is true:
You can break an anvil if you want to. In a survival situation a high saber ground BK-7 will be just fine with some of the other Beckers being more than fine. A BK-2 is about a close to indestructible as you can get in a knife. Becker Knives are like Glocks - they just work! I buy Beckers because of the handle, the forgiving and easy to sharpen steel, KaBar's customer service and ... Ethan.
On the subject of ballistics, I'm more of the Elmer Keith school of thought contra Jack O'Connor. That being said, it cannot be disputed that if you double the weight of a projectile - you double the energy, but if you double the speed of a projectile - you square the energy. Comments about energy not always reflecting terminal results are also fair.
You can break an anvil if you want to. In a survival situation a high saber ground BK-7 will be just fine with some of the other Beckers being more than fine. A BK-2 is about a close to indestructible as you can get in a knife. Becker Knives are like Glocks - they just work! I buy Beckers because of the handle, the forgiving and easy to sharpen steel, KaBar's customer service and ... Ethan.
On the subject of ballistics, I'm more of the Elmer Keith school of thought contra Jack O'Connor. That being said, it cannot be disputed that if you double the weight of a projectile - you double the energy, but if you double the speed of a projectile - you square the energy. Comments about energy not always reflecting terminal results are also fair.
There is a huge difference between "survival" or hard use and knife abuse. This video, as most torture test videos are in my opinion, is straight up knife abuse. I don't own Beckers because for my use they are overkill. But I can honestly say there is no situation conceivable that I would need to stab a rock. If I do stab a rock I would not expect my blade to be in good condition after.
I guess they can probably serve the purpose of what not to do with your knife or maybe to prove that a blade will survive normal use. But to take this as proof a knife will fail is a the actual fail in my opinion.
I guess they can probably serve the purpose of what not to do with your knife or maybe to prove that a blade will survive normal use. But to take this as proof a knife will fail is a the actual fail in my opinion.
Hey, no problem there.Yeah but then you're just going around looking for stuff to pop open.
I guess a heavy test for any knife if you want to see how tough it is is to use/abuse it on the materials it was designed to cut/chop etc... There are plenty of good hard tests from YT testers on wood! I think what 99% are trying to say is that the Becker knives fare extremely well even when abusing them on this medium.
My concern is I might have to cut through a wall in an earthquake or a roof in a flood. And while there are better tools for that. I may not have them on me. And I don't care if my knife gets thrown out after that. So long as it survives long enough to do that.
I think as soon as we start messing around with man made stuff. Pulling corrugated iron down or using electrical wire as cordage, Trying to cut out a car window. That kind of junk. Then these stout knife destruction tests become a bit more relevant.
Which is also why hacking knives and wrecking knives are built like they are.
I think as soon as we start messing around with man made stuff. Pulling corrugated iron down or using electrical wire as cordage, Trying to cut out a car window. That kind of junk. Then these stout knife destruction tests become a bit more relevant.
Which is also why hacking knives and wrecking knives are built like they are.
Love the slo-mo replay!
There are some urban jobs I would consider a knife for in a survival situation.
I might have to chip through bessa brick to escape a building during a flood or something.
Repurpose some corrugated iron.
Pop open a locked latch.
That kind of thing.
I don't expect the knife to come out amazing after that.
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One thing that has puzzled me is, ive been in enough woods to be able to find so much small wood scraps on the ground that batonning and beating on a knife seems so unnecessary; this would be the east coast of the U.S. Im sure the region you are in may play a part as to what youll need the knife for....
Some of them might be okay. Usually you have to pay for that kind of durability. That, or the toughness comes at expense of sharpness. I agree with what you're saying, and it is an important thing to have a good tool for. Now, in my trail pack, I carry a 7" (or close to that) pry bar. Hmm... weird. Having trouble posting the picture. There we go. Got it.
Oh I definitely agree. It's not to hard finding enough fallen pieces in most cases for a small fire. If so, there is this. Modified Trail Hawk. Although I really want a nice tomahawk around one lb. This one is around 23.6 oz. Fine for camping, I suppose.One thing that has puzzled me is, ive been in enough woods to be able to find so much small wood scraps on the ground that batonning and beating on a knife seems so unnecessary; this would be the east coast of the U.S. Im sure the region you are in may play a part as to what youll need the knife for....
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I have a cold steel 4 max for that sort of assurance. Which doesn't come with me all the time. But is designed to fill that role.Some of them might be okay. Usually you have to pay for that kind of durability. That, or the toughness comes at expense of sharpness. I agree with what you're saying, and it is an important thing to have a good tool for. Now, in my trail pack, I carry a 7" (or close to that) pry bar. Hmm... weird. Having trouble posting the picture. There we go. Got it.
And I pay for that with weight mostly.(it surprisingly cuts pretty well)
The other reasoning behind the folder is I can congregate around other people without having a knife hanging off my belt. That might inspire them to get me in to trouble.
Or worse.
Borrow it.