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I have it on good authority that the Sandshark OTF is going back into production
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The original sand shark had adjustment screws where you could remove nearly all blade play. They locked up quite solid. And the double lock design was quite stout. But this is just stuff I’ve read. I’ve never held one.
The piranha Excalibur is suppose to be quite close to the sand shark, but I’ve never opened mine up to see.
OP, any rumor on when they’ll be showing up or at what dealers?
The piranha Excalibur is suppose to be quite close to the sand shark, but I’ve never opened mine up to see.
OP, any rumor on when they’ll be showing up or at what dealers?
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I find this seriously hard to believe.
Did DCC sign over the design of the Cupid to No Limit Knives to make the Strelka, too? I'm being facetious, here, but you get the picture.
Harder still to believe that a company would risk getting $400 knives seized by customs since they are illegal to import (even as parts).
I'm know that I'm a pessimist, but I think some company is planning to clone a Sand Shark, manufacture it in China, and is spreading B.S. about buying the company to try to sell the product for more than the $50 is should cost. I'm not saying it will be garbage, just that if it's made in China, it should cost closer to $50 than $400. I supposed the good thing is that, since it's made in China, the $50 Chinese copies of the $400 Chinese copy will be available even sooner than $50 copies of $400 US-made knives.
For those that are a little late to the game... the DKW Sand Shark was the ultimate OTF knife at the time it was in production. Incredible fit and finish, very nice snap and extremely desirable. Perhaps they are most famous for the fact that you could pound one into the side of a 55gal drum again and again with no adverse effects to the knife. In the late 90's early 00's there were not a lot of OTF offering that were well and truly reliable and DKW Sand Shark was the cream of the crop. They came with an adjustable set screw on the reverse side that allowed the user to remove some of the blade play. Later two more set screws were added to further increase the ability to tighten these up. They came in a large plastic tube, wrapped in a "sock" and were available in tanto, drop point, and the quintessential D/E blade. They could be had in a variety of handle colors but most were black or grey.
These used to sell in the neighborhood of $500 and have just gone up from there to the $1500-$2000 range as they have become a Grail Knife. I passed on one when they were in the $500-$700 range and really regret it. To me the Sand Shark is more of a Grail knife than the Deadlock (I was smart and didn't pass on that). I was lucky enough to handle on once and it has left me longing for more.
I am skeptical that the James Bro's sold the names/rights/designs/etc. and am sure that some one in a factory in China got their hands on one and have reversed engineered it. I am ashamed to say that if these do come to fruition I would be very hard pressed not to get one as they have just been so elusive to me and the Piranha, thought being based on and very similar to the SS, its just not the same.
Josh Of PVK used to have some videos that showed the action on these bad boys, not too many vids of them around.
These used to sell in the neighborhood of $500 and have just gone up from there to the $1500-$2000 range as they have become a Grail Knife. I passed on one when they were in the $500-$700 range and really regret it. To me the Sand Shark is more of a Grail knife than the Deadlock (I was smart and didn't pass on that). I was lucky enough to handle on once and it has left me longing for more.
I am skeptical that the James Bro's sold the names/rights/designs/etc. and am sure that some one in a factory in China got their hands on one and have reversed engineered it. I am ashamed to say that if these do come to fruition I would be very hard pressed not to get one as they have just been so elusive to me and the Piranha, thought being based on and very similar to the SS, its just not the same.
Josh Of PVK used to have some videos that showed the action on these bad boys, not too many vids of them around.
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Yup, all of this^...I have wanted one for a very long time
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Thanks for the explanation Pirate604
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Hmmm.... maybe not so rare or illegal as one might think. COO clearly marked, most from USA manufacturers.
https://www.bladehq.com/cat--Best-Automatic-Switchblade-Knives--2631
https://www.colonialknifecorp.com/collections/auto-tools/switchblade-knife
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I'm fully aware of all the imported stuff. Hubertus, Mikov, all the Italian switchblades, Chinese garbage by the shipping container full, etc. It's still actually illegal. I don't agree with it, and the risk by retailers and manufacturers/assemblers is minimal, but it's still a risk. Several years back Spyderco was raided by US Customs because some of their balisong parts weren't American in origin. Parts and materials seized and a huge fine levied. I have no idea why Spyderco was singled out while pretty much everybody else that engages in that practice gets away with it, but the fact remains that it happened. And could happen to whomever is producing the Sandsharks from Chinese sourced parts.
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No Limit Knives is a separate company. According to them, the company is new and those models (not the Sandshark) will be available on Blade HQ sometime in the near future
You're welcome to remain skeptical - that's your right. But unless you actually have actual information about the situation, this is all speculation on your part. I'm not claiming to know the details of their business dealings, I'm simply repeating what they told me when I visited their shop.
The owners claim to do most of their business selling knives wholesale to places like Blade HQ. What I do know is that these people have had a local knife shop here in the SF Bay Area for years and they definitely sell high end knives like CRKs. They operate out in the open and sell legitimate brands out of their store front. If you want to ask them any questions about the Sandshark or any of their other projects, you can email or call them at their shop:
https://www.dublinknifesharpening.com/
My point here is not about who's right and who's wrong, but that skepticism does not equal knowledge. If you want to make a compelling case that someone is engaging in illegal activities, you're going to need some evidence and not just speculation from an armchair.
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You are the one that said the knives would be made in China. Importing an automatic knife (or even parts of an automatic knife) into the USA is illegal. This is common knowledge.
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Just out of curiosity, how far does that go? Say I'm making a knife and I buy screws or springs from a company here in the US, do I need to make sure those components are also made in the USA?
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looks like the usual fluffy hype for another bland OTF...nearly no play still means play.
Save up for a deadlock, that's what I did. Believe the hype...it is real, anything else is just second class overpriced trash
Save up for a deadlock, that's what I did. Believe the hype...it is real, anything else is just second class overpriced trash
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The deadlock is cool for sure, but the blade to handle ratio is way off to my eyes...I've held both and I still want a Sandshark. The original Sandshark was anything but "second class overpriced trash" and if you had ever handled one you'd know that.
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I think that's for the lawyers to decide, but it seems to be that if it is a part specific to a switchblade, then it's the same as a switchblade. I'm sure this falls under the same category as switchblade kits and broken switchblades, for which there is legal precedence.
Also, I remember reading about 12 years ago (guessing) about the government putting pressure on Boker USA regarding importing knives that were mostly being sold to companies that converted them by simply disassembling, dropping in a spring, and reassembling. The knives were technically manual, but the manufacturer knew that the intention was for them to be converted to automatic, and Boker gave in and changed the manual versions so that some other machine work was required.
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There was a post on Jerzee Devil many years ago where a member dissassabled both the Excalibur and the SandShark to compare the insides. You really have to see just how well the SandShark was though out, engineered and built to understand the awesomeness of this legendary blade. Nothing else that has ever been on the market (aside from the deadlock) comes close to the SandShark.
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Save up for a deadlock, that's what I did. Believe the hype...it is real, anything else is just second class overpriced trash
I'm blown away by the internals, but there are two huge problems with the Deadlock:
1. The knife handle looks like it was designed to be Conan the Barbarian's backup dagger.
2. I want zero play in a knife that I use every day, not one that costs so much that I'll rarely carry it, if ever.
It's certainly not trash (overpriced is always subjective), and Rival1314 was obviously joking, but it really isn't the best OTF either. I have owned a bronze-handle with black tanto blade that I used and I still own red-handle with reptilian Damascus D/E blade that is a safe queen. When you start talking about blade play and strength, etc. you are talking about durability for use, and the Sandshark just wasn't a great user. The handle ergonomics are sub-par by today's standards. The vertical blade play, which was not adjustable, would get sloppy with use, as I found out. As a user, I would take a Microtech Scarab over a Sandshark any day. As a collector, though, it's not a contest. Hopefully the Chinese clones don't ruin that.
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Same, I wish they could slim the handle down and shorten it.
Agree. I owned a dead lock and it truly had no play but sold it as could not get past the "Conan" look and also was just 'too big'. I offered to pay for expensive custom build over a year if they would just get rid of the 'wings' and make me one that looked like a shark but they keep coming out with their same stupid 'new' builds that all look same. The other thing is not sure how dead lock achieves 'no play'. For all we know might have a rubber dam or something. i have 3 sand sharks and have dismantled them all and cleaned and while you can tune all play out up-down the vertical play remains. They were/are however higher quality than say microtechs.
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