I've been cloned! (trying to take it as a compliment)

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Agartha Audio, Oct 22, 2020.

  1. Agartha Audio

    Agartha Audio

    Jun 20, 2015
    I got a heads up this morning on IG that one of my chop mods was being counterfeited and sold on Ali. Checked it out, and sure enough, there's a 'Jufule 535 mini-chop' being sold that is an exact copy of my modded Benchmade Ti Bugout, which was a one-off mod that I gave away on IG as a 1k giveaway prize a couple of months ago.
    Here's a pic of my chop:
    Here's a vid w/ more angles/details:

    Here's the clone:

    Not sure how I feel about this. It's definitely shady and unscrupulous, but I also think that they're inadvertently helping me advertise my work, and not infringing on any of the small profits I do make from modding. The mini Bugout was a one-off, and I've never had any requests to chop anyone else's (versus Smocks and Bugouts which I chop constantly). I'm also just cracking up imagining this big factory recreating my backyard dremel tool/budget HF grinder antics...
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  2. Dogdrawz

    Dogdrawz Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 15, 2016
    Brian Nadeau had one of his customs counterfeited a few months ago & now this. Boo China, just boo.
  3. abcdef


    Oct 28, 2005
    Hot dog! S30V for $30 and a coupon. Better get there before I do.
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  4. mwhich50

    mwhich50 Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 18, 2011
    Cool knife. Very nice (your knife)!
    You are helping to feed extremely poor people in a third world country. Who here can say that?
  5. Billy The Hungry

    Billy The Hungry

    Aug 11, 2020
    "Feeding kids in a third world country". Haha!

    To the OP: You have a great attitude!
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  6. MayHemAndHaw


    May 5, 2020
    Amazing that it's D2 AND S30V- a marvel of modern engineering for $30! What's even more remarkable is that if tested it comes back as AUS-6 but they'll throw that in for free.
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  7. midnight flyer

    midnight flyer Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 12, 2009
    I would personally take that as a compliment. It's kind of like the old saying in advertising "call me anything you want, just call me!" In other words, I thg think they are helping get the word out on your design. Knife guys will forever look at that as a clone, and since knife guys will no doubt be your target audience should you decide to pursue your grinding, you haven't lost a thing.

    You could change the name of your model to "The original mini-chop" so if someone searches for that knife yours would show up too.

    I have a friend of mine that lives in Houston and he constantly goes to the TSA Warehouse to buy knives out of bins. He never pays much for any of them and very occasionally he will wind up with a real gem. As a dedicated tinkerer he has been modifying knives of all sorts for years. He buys a few confiscated knives and he starts grinding and cutting. He actually started by repairing knives for his friends that were damaged from use or abuse. Now, he has done so many knives for so many people ground up so many on his own for sale or fun that no knife is safe! Nearly anytime I pull out a knife around him he has to take it from me and study on it. Then he likes to say " you know what you could do with this..."

    I cringe and take my knife back!

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  8. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    Take it as a compliment, 'cause it is. Ever wonder what the BM designer thinks of your "chop". :)
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  9. Chronovore

    Chronovore Basic Member Basic Member

    Aug 29, 2019
    It's probably 3Cr13 or 5Cr15 but I'd take the dubious honor. You must be making a splash if some shady factory on the other side of the planet is mass-producing a copy of your one-off mod.
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  10. abbazaba

    abbazaba Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 30, 2015
    Too funny. Did you buy one though? ;)

    Looking at it now, maybe it was some of your best work? What a great design!

    Regardless, not much you can do but laugh and appreciate the fact that your design is now in production. Thanks for sharing!

    Edit: Maybe team up with Benchmade on this?
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  11. Agartha Audio

    Agartha Audio

    Jun 20, 2015
    Thanks man, that cracked me up - I think an internal organ failed me I was busting up so hard!!!
  12. Agartha Audio

    Agartha Audio

    Jun 20, 2015
    Thanks Billy!
    Thanks brownshoe! Yeah, I'm definitely curious. I tend to think most designers aren't super excited to see me mess w/ their designs, but who knows?
    Thanks Chronovore - I'm hoping that's the case (splashing, that is)!
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2020
  13. Agartha Audio

    Agartha Audio

    Jun 20, 2015
    Thanks AZ, much appreciated brotha! Let me go down the line and answer:
    - Yep, couldn't help but buy one! Really curious to check it out.
    - I would definitely love to team up w/ Benchmade for anything!!!
  14. Korean Hog

    Korean Hog Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 12, 2017
    I here you on " trying to take it as a compliment"
    On the one hand, your work is now considered by many to be profitable.
    That's a big deal considering how hard it can be to make a profit in such a saturated market.
    You gotta really stand out when there's so many standing next to you if you wanna make it.
    On the other hand, copying someone and taking credit for their work is a strange way to be complimented.
  15. Eversion

    Eversion Making Ti things pretty! Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Gold Member

    Apr 9, 2020
    No way, but it says it's D2 marked as S30V! Suuuurely they wouldn't lie about the steel twice! :rolleyes:

    Also, I didn't know these chops were a thing, but now I'm tempted to get my mini Bugout done...
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2020
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