Just got my Spydie Wegner (1st impress.)

Rockspyder:
1. Wouldn't a lanyard solve this problem without the detriment of so much exposed knife?
2. Tip down solves this one.
3. Tip down solves this one too.
4. No, there is not liner on the other side, only the plastic slab. I prefer a stout liner on both sides.

However, I still like the knife, mainly because of the blade shape. I do wish that the overall knive had been designed differently, for the reasons set forth in my original post.

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Originally posted by Nimrod:
Rockspyder:

4. No, there is not "spacer" on the other side, only the plastic slab. The "spacer" about which you speak is one in the same with the liner; only on one side.

Nimrod,
I am confused.Did you mean the back spacer
is only on the one side? My Wegner has full
back spacer. Or "back spacer" and "spacer"
are totally different things? Thanx for you time.
BTW,although my Wegner ,which only have a liner on the one side , it is not more flexible than my BM 730(I LOVE IT.), which have liners on both sides.
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Isstaipei, I thank you for bringing a typo to my attention. I MEANT "liner" not "spacer" and have since edited my previous post thanks to your careful reading of my sloppy typing. My #4. previously said liner but somehow I said spacer when I subsequently replied.

I guess that I am the very personification of the old addage, if you go to college long enough ... you can get educated beyond your intelligence.
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Liners, spacers, blades and slabs ... it's all but paint and canvas.
 
I know this is an "opinion" thread, but I thought to bring up some info.

Tim Wegner originally wanted the model with a thicker blade and two liners. The result was too heavy. G10 is very rigid and there is no requirement for 2 liners. If the handle material was micart, then, I would have to argue for two liners (on a linerlock) because micarta moves with moisture.

When Spyderco invented the clothing clip (1981), the function was immediate and convenient access. Concealment was not an issue because no one knew what the clip was.

Even now, I believe that convenient and immediate access is still more important than concealment. A very deep pocket carry is more difficult to access, but this too is opinion.

Spyderco makes models with fairly deep pocket (Calypso jr, Centofante) and some where a significant amount of the knife is above the pocket line (Military).

Different strokes.

Creating a clip that is strong enough for daily carry over the years is difficult to do. Time will tell what holds up.

sal
 
Mr. Glesser,

Thank you for producing such an awesome tool.

I really believe that the Wegner is almost perfection. There is very little I would change. Definately one of my all-time favorites. A true classic. As popular as it is I still don't think it gets enough attention.


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Dennis Bible
 
Originally posted by Sal Glesser:
"... I believe that convenient and immediate access is still more important than concealment. A very deep pocket carry is more difficult to access, but this too is opinion."

You can have both with a very deep and strong clip, like the SERE 2000 AND a small lanyard. That's an arrangement that I prefer, but like you said, these things are subject to different opinions.

Notwithstanding the relatively minor changes I would make to the Wegner, it is a wonderfully functional bladeshape and ergonomic as well. No knife can be all things to all people all the time, but the Wegner is a good folding hunter for me.



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Looking forward to getting my Wegner and seeing how it compares functionally to the MicroTech LLC/MA. I think this will be fun comparing these two functionally.

Harry
 
WRT the lanyard, if you're using one, why do you need the clip at all? You can go deep pocket without the clip, and leave the lanyard hanging...

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"Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes, the bear eats you."
 
The Wegner was one of the first knives I purchased. There is a test I call the "front of the knife drawer" test. As time goes on and the natural selection process occurs, the Wegner is a knife that ends up in the front of the drawer to be carried often. As knives fade to the back, there is usually a reason why they are not considered useful on a daily basis. Strength, carryability,design and functionality are the deciding factors. The Wegner keeps staying near the front of the drawer when knives that are newer or more expensive keep moving back. 'Nuff said.
David

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I liked the knife but my self imposed knife limit forced me to sell it for an LCC. The two things that made the knife less than perfect for me are the clip placement (already mentioned) and the tip wasn't quite pointy enough for those fine, detail cuts such as cutting a pic out of the newspaper. Maybe it was just me.....
Anyway, it still is a wonderful knife and the true test is if I break down and buy another in the future.
ps.- I do love my LCC though.
 
I have to 'fess up and admit that I wrote my last post without ever having handled the Wegner. But, I had window-shopped and seen it in the mall, and read/heard a lot about it, and thought it had the full length space. Mine was on the way when I wrote that, and now it is in my hands. Not only a full length stainless spacer, but that spacer is the "stop pin" for the blade!
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Now that is ROBUST! Nice.

Nimrod, I would have to say that I think I agree with you that tip down would probably make the knife carry better, but probably not make it hide any better. Or maybe it would. Who knows? But, I like it pretty much just like it is. I don't have the "bank vault" type opening sound, though. Not nearly as much as my Military. But, I think that is mostly a result of the full length spacer damping the reverberation through the g-10 slabs. Hey, whatever, it works for me. I REALLY like this knife. It is just what I expected it to be, and is awesome. I'm not unlike Boriqua in using it: within 15 minutes of receiving it, I was in the woods chopping 2 inch branches right through. Interesting, after the first branch was finished, I noticed the liner lock had moved all the way over to the opposite scale!
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And it was a biatch to unlock. BUT, it didn't appear to suffer any degradation of its operation. Later, I chopped through another branch, using the same method and force, and the liner lock didn't move. I guess it just had to settle in a little. Anyway, this is one AWESOME knife that I would HIGHLY recommend for anyone looking for a serious user.

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I really like the Wegner as an ultra sturdy camp or hunting knife. I'm curious how it compare to the new Chinook from Spyderco which has an ultra sturdy contruction but a lockback and CPM 440V blade. A comparison between these two knives would really be interesting to me.
 
Originally posted by anthony cheeseboro:
I really like the Wegner as an ultra sturdy camp or hunting knife. I'm curious how it compare to the new Chinook from Spyderco which has an ultra sturdy contruction but a lockback and CPM 440V blade. A comparison between these two knives would really be interesting to me.
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That, to me, is almost like comparing apples and oranges. On one hand, nice sturdy drop point, on the other a wicked curved clip. Also ATS-34 vs. 440V. I'd probably stick with the Wegner and ATS-34.

Something I've been wondering for a while, now, is how Spyderco's 440V would (or does, if anyone has used one) hold up during skinning. The reason I ask is I'm under the impression that the legendary edge-holding of 440V in skinning applications is primarily due to its use in custom hunting knives, and I believe these custom knives generally are treated to a higher Rockwell. Dunno, though, I could be all messed up.

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iktomi
 
I've been carrying my Wegner for the better part of 2 years now. It is one of the best knives I own. I have quite a few handmade, custom knives but the Wegner is with me all the time and gets the most use. In my opinion it is the best folder on the market. I have field dressed everything from squirrels to deer with this blade and it has never let me down. This knife has seen some very hard use. All it requires is a little cleaning once in a while and a few passes over the ceramic sticks.
Actually, I just dressed a deer with it yesterday. I gutted and skinned the entire carcass with it and it was still resonably sharp when I was done. A few minutes with the Sharpmaker and it was popping hairs again.
I like the way it carries in the pocket. When I'm in the field I unwrap the lanyard and loop it through my belt just in case. I'd hate to lose it!
My only bitch is the ATS34 steel. I don't care for stainless steels. Until I got my sharpmaker I couldn't get a shaving edge on this knife. I much prefer good old D2 or O1 tool steel. It's easier to sharpen and takes and holds a better edge. However, since this knife is in my pocket all the time and it sees regular use in harsh conditions I will concede that stainless is probably a better choice. My Sharpmaker has cured my ATS sharpening blues.
 
tHOUGHT THE SEBENZA WAS THE ONLY KNIFE.aFTER GETTING THE WENGER, I am undecided.

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Ray
 
"WRT the lanyard, if you're using one, why do you need the clip at all? You can go deep pocket without the clip, and leave the lanyard hanging..."

The clip keeps the knife from getting lost in the pocket and from resting in the lint, gunk and debris that resides in the pocket's bottom. To me, a deep clip and a lanyard are the best of both worlds.

If I could get the AlMar SERE with the blade of the Wegner, it would be my favorite folder. For the uses I have for this knife, weight is not that much of a factor.

Other than the clip placement and single liner with thin liner lock, it is a great knife. Notwithstanding my personal preferences, the knife performs for me flawslessly at its intended tasks ... folding, lightweight hunting knife.
 
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