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guess i dont get an answer eh? figured as much
Lynn Griffith Forum Knife 2001
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Arthur Washburn
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My small folders with damascus blades, damascus bolsters and file work start under 400, whats the secret for getting 400 bucks for a plain ole fixed blade with g10 scales?
Arthur D. Washburn
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HermanKnives
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Art,
lotsa bs hype
lotsa bs hype
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=955453&a=8537582&p=30675056
A2 Heat treated by Paul Bos to 60 RH, belt finish at 600 grit, sealed bocote handle. 4" blade, unsharpened finger cut out, 3.75" handle, sealed and polished by hand. Convex grind down to edge, polished edge. Total time to make, about 8 or 9 hours, including hacksawing the blank out and grinding it on a POS 1x30. Cost? Well, lets just say lots less than the forum knife!! My uncle got it for $30 because people here were nice enough to give me sheath material and other favors, so I could lower the cost by about $30 or $40. Price for this piece w/o sheath would be around $60 or $70. Oh yeah, it was my fifth one I made, second one I sold. It isn't the best, but IMHO, better than $400 for something the same size! Definetly a knife to use, not just look at and wonder why you paid so much for it. Rant mode off!
A2 Heat treated by Paul Bos to 60 RH, belt finish at 600 grit, sealed bocote handle. 4" blade, unsharpened finger cut out, 3.75" handle, sealed and polished by hand. Convex grind down to edge, polished edge. Total time to make, about 8 or 9 hours, including hacksawing the blank out and grinding it on a POS 1x30. Cost? Well, lets just say lots less than the forum knife!! My uncle got it for $30 because people here were nice enough to give me sheath material and other favors, so I could lower the cost by about $30 or $40. Price for this piece w/o sheath would be around $60 or $70. Oh yeah, it was my fifth one I made, second one I sold. It isn't the best, but IMHO, better than $400 for something the same size! Definetly a knife to use, not just look at and wonder why you paid so much for it. Rant mode off!
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this was posted on lynn's forum.....bet it dont stay there long
Nifer
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(10/27/00 10:01:45 pm)
Question?
What makes Lynn's knives so special? What makes them worth the outragous prices he charges? The damn forum knife is the same price as a custom damascus blade hunter from other makers. Does anyone even look around and shop around for knives? I mean there seems to be a serious caseof cranial-rectus-insertion. People can't see other knives through all the bull@#%$ Lynn tells them and posts here. The D.C. Munro Chimera is the same price as the forum knife, but it is a carbon fiber and talonite folder. It takes a lot more time and skill then a simple drop point. Lynn you need to deflate the ego, stop lying about wait time, and set realistic prices. You, my friend, are pathetic.
Nifer
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(10/27/00 10:01:45 pm)
Question?
What makes Lynn's knives so special? What makes them worth the outragous prices he charges? The damn forum knife is the same price as a custom damascus blade hunter from other makers. Does anyone even look around and shop around for knives? I mean there seems to be a serious caseof cranial-rectus-insertion. People can't see other knives through all the bull@#%$ Lynn tells them and posts here. The D.C. Munro Chimera is the same price as the forum knife, but it is a carbon fiber and talonite folder. It takes a lot more time and skill then a simple drop point. Lynn you need to deflate the ego, stop lying about wait time, and set realistic prices. You, my friend, are pathetic.
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I guess I posted at the same time as Tim and Taz. Nifer, you are my new hero! Cajones bro. Cajones.
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LMAO!!! Here is another one by him!
What the hell makes a simple patrolman worth the same price as a Carbon Fiber and Talonite folder from D.C Munroe? Seriously, the folder is a whole hell of a lot more work then the damn drop point patrolman. In all seriousness, how do you justify this price? It seems downright idiotic to me. And what about the 8 hour satin finish by hand? I know Lynn has probably given himself many handjobs, but 8 hours? You got to be kidding me. I can get a GenO Denning (actually 3 of them) for the same price as the forum knife. And the fit and finish is remarkably better. I find it hard to believe Lynn stays busy with his 15 groupies that buy from him. What the hell did you put in their water to brain wash them so well? Wake up and smell the bull @#%$ boys, the knives suck. Get over it.
What the hell makes a simple patrolman worth the same price as a Carbon Fiber and Talonite folder from D.C Munroe? Seriously, the folder is a whole hell of a lot more work then the damn drop point patrolman. In all seriousness, how do you justify this price? It seems downright idiotic to me. And what about the 8 hour satin finish by hand? I know Lynn has probably given himself many handjobs, but 8 hours? You got to be kidding me. I can get a GenO Denning (actually 3 of them) for the same price as the forum knife. And the fit and finish is remarkably better. I find it hard to believe Lynn stays busy with his 15 groupies that buy from him. What the hell did you put in their water to brain wash them so well? Wake up and smell the bull @#%$ boys, the knives suck. Get over it.
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Wow. I... ummm I mean Nifer
, was banned for the LG forum in record time. I guess refusing to give Lynn the customary reach around gets you kicked off the forum. You can go play on his forum, as long as you don't tell the truth about his crappy knives. Lynn or his groupies, feel free to stop by the chat room or post here and we can discuss the knives. I will tell you why they suck, then point at you and laugh for buying them. Anyways, I am gonna go watch football. Bye Bye.
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OK, ladies, I've sat back as long as I can and tried to let this deluge of crap die. It won't, and I'm not the type to put up with personal insults. Since (A) no one has the nuts to say these things in email and (B) there is a deplorable lack of moderating here, allow me to retort.
Tim, the last email you sent me stated that you wished to have no further conversation with me. I can only assume that having your toadies around you gives you courage to continue our debate. That being said, the reason I did not respond to you querie was that I was reeling from the new level of wit you displayed with "ptalfalfa". Wow, fourth grade is treating you well.
Jeremy, I don't know who the hell you are, but your posts pretty much speak for themselves. As for knives from other makers, I've got plenty, with more on the way. Anytime you want to compare notes, sonny boy, feel free. A word of advice: one day Tim may stop suddenly, and you'll discover that not only your nose is brown.
A final word: I've seen some trolls here on BFC since I've been here, but this is the most blatant example of trolling to date. The fact that posts such as the ones in this thread were/are allowed to go on unchecked gives a black eye to the custom forum and to BFC in general.
Since this won't die, and apparently is not going to get locked, then lets dance, girls!
Tim, the last email you sent me stated that you wished to have no further conversation with me. I can only assume that having your toadies around you gives you courage to continue our debate. That being said, the reason I did not respond to you querie was that I was reeling from the new level of wit you displayed with "ptalfalfa". Wow, fourth grade is treating you well.
Jeremy, I don't know who the hell you are, but your posts pretty much speak for themselves. As for knives from other makers, I've got plenty, with more on the way. Anytime you want to compare notes, sonny boy, feel free. A word of advice: one day Tim may stop suddenly, and you'll discover that not only your nose is brown.
A final word: I've seen some trolls here on BFC since I've been here, but this is the most blatant example of trolling to date. The fact that posts such as the ones in this thread were/are allowed to go on unchecked gives a black eye to the custom forum and to BFC in general.
Since this won't die, and apparently is not going to get locked, then lets dance, girls!
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my arent we defensive?! i just asked you a simple legitimate question and as before you get way bent out of shape over it. is that just to avoid the question? or do you just like starting crap only to blame it on me??
please stop reeling long enough to answer my question. i would really think the 2 year waiters would be really upset when he pulls a stunt like i referred too. i mean give me a break! i need 25 orders to get this forum knife going??? whats amazing is you groupies of his cant see through this lame crap!
then his next lame trick...i need some orders for a whatever model with black micarta handle to get pics of, i just cant make one on my own cuz i'm just too busy! good LORD! it gonna take 2 years also to get?? probly wont need a pic of it then anyway, huh?
next point...i dont need any toadies sonny, i will be glad to discuss this with you at anytime and anywhere
if it gets "utterly rediculous" again, just remember...you brought it here with your blatant advertising again. lynn has taught you well
BTW i will make you the same forum knife for $150, even with my 8 hour 1000 grit finish! have you seen d.c. munroes chimera folder with talonite blade and carbon fiber or g10 for the same $400 lynn wants for his simple forum knife? i bought several of them and that knife is WORTH $400!
as i said earlier, i was quiet about this crap for months now and intended to never mention lynn again but since you brought it back here i had to say what i feel. i have been in the knife business for over 23 years now and i hate to see the buying public ripped off by a guy whose ego can barely fit inside his shop. and it still amazes me he hasnt fixed his mispelled name on his nick here on BFC! to me that looks pretty lame just to keep his huge number of posts here.
again, i dont need any toadies or groupies to discuss anything with you sonny, just name the time and place! thats if YOU have the nuts?! you dont want criticism and arguement, then keep your sideshow at lynns forum cuz it seems you cant take the criticism or the facts over here!
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I might as well join in the advertizing with L6steel. This one of my standard 440C models 1500 grit hand finished with a leather pouch sheath they start at $150.00 CAN thats about $100.00 US. The one in the photo went for $175.00 CAN. Yes I do have a 3 to 4 month waiting list but I only do this knife gig part time, about 20hrs per week. I can see well knowen in demand makers having high prices and long waiting lists, but there has to be a line drawn somwhere. That line is usually drawn by the buying public, not critics and other makers. If I thought I could sell my knives for double the price I would, but then most hunters, myself included couldn't afford them.
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Some of you guys on both sides really need a good butt kicking. Selling wolf tickets to people you're never gonna see in person is darn brave. Get your butts down to a gym and move some real iron and you won't have the energy to get into these pissing contests. Where the heck is Spark?
Y'all come down to the NY Show on Nov.10 and me and Les'll teach you a lesson(Les, you're behind me, right? Uh oh, where the heck are ya Les?C'mon,stop fooling around!
And btw-you can get the best hunters around for less than $400 from Ron Gaston,Russ Easler,Joel Chamblin,Dan Cannady,and on and on.
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Y'all come down to the NY Show on Nov.10 and me and Les'll teach you a lesson(Les, you're behind me, right? Uh oh, where the heck are ya Les?C'mon,stop fooling around!
And btw-you can get the best hunters around for less than $400 from Ron Gaston,Russ Easler,Joel Chamblin,Dan Cannady,and on and on.
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Forum knife.Fixed blade.Deal at $320.00.Does any of Mr Griffiths puppies know what you can get for $320.00 in the real world.How about a Matt Lamey,Geno Denning,Ron Gaston,Bob Dozier,Martin Pullen,Lightfoot,Jerry McDonald,George Herron,Larry Page,Mike Snody,Trace Rinaldi,Al Polkowski,all of whom I have handled or owned at or less money than a"Forums Knife" by Mr Griffiths.I have seen a couple of Mr Griffiths knives and they were okay but not good enough to warrent $320.00 and a two year wait.IMHO
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Lifter, I guess since retiring from college football after last season, I need somewhere to let out my agressions besides the weight room 
Anywho, Alfalfa, you are correct, my posts speak for themselves. They are true and correct. Lynn's business ethics are plain crazy and his prices are down right stupid. You mouth Tim, saying he has groupies, but you are the one with your lips fixed firmly on Lynn's butt. I hope you washed your hands before typing your reply. Why would I bother e-mailing you? I can say the same things right here, and tell more people about the crappy quality of a Griffith knife at the same time. And as for Tim's offer to talk to you about it anywhere, I want to offer my services for selling popcorn and coke. I got 2 pairs of boxing gloves to donate too. I think it's pretty stupid that Lynn refuses to here honost opinions of his knives. If you don't like his knives, you are not allowed to post anything about them? Get a life, boy, or at least a blow up doll and a playboy. Anyways, I need to go take a Lynn and wipe my ptpalhpa when I finish.
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Anywho, Alfalfa, you are correct, my posts speak for themselves. They are true and correct. Lynn's business ethics are plain crazy and his prices are down right stupid. You mouth Tim, saying he has groupies, but you are the one with your lips fixed firmly on Lynn's butt. I hope you washed your hands before typing your reply. Why would I bother e-mailing you? I can say the same things right here, and tell more people about the crappy quality of a Griffith knife at the same time. And as for Tim's offer to talk to you about it anywhere, I want to offer my services for selling popcorn and coke. I got 2 pairs of boxing gloves to donate too. I think it's pretty stupid that Lynn refuses to here honost opinions of his knives. If you don't like his knives, you are not allowed to post anything about them? Get a life, boy, or at least a blow up doll and a playboy. Anyways, I need to go take a Lynn and wipe my ptpalhpa when I finish.[This message has been edited by Jeremy Reynolds (edited 10-28-2000).]
Well, Lifter, I agree a lot. There are some incredible knives out there for the low prices. I just don't agree with one thing, I just got back from the gym, 3rd leg day this week, and I'm raring to go!!
I if was going to be at the show, I would back you up!!
Now, on the forum knife note. Lynn says he will pick the handle material from his colelction of stabilized wood. I for one would want to pick the wood on a knife if it is a special knife and cost $400!! Also, he needs 20 orders?? Is this correct or did I misread something? Is that so he can HT in a batch?? Why can't he make just 5 or 10 of the knives?? That would be $2,000 to $4000 approx at his $400 price, which is a pretty good profit. ATS isn't that expensive from the right places, Bos Heat treats 20 blades for $60, Stabilized wood can be expensive, I grant you, but its only like $30 or $40, using incredibly expensive stuff. The steel would be about $15 a blade using very high steel prices. Pins, epoxy, etc would run about $10 at the most, including mosaic pins. That is less than $65 in materials per knife, not counting belts, etc. Belts last for several knives, so even saying belts for one knife costs about $30, you are still under $100 for the materials. The sheeath material isn't that expensive, but i guess a lot of time goes into it. i think the sheath are the saem on the forum and non forum knife, so I don't think it is different. Time, well, I know time is a big factor, but I have ground blades on a POS 1x30, so I know what spending time on the stuff is like. I also started out hand filing blades of 3/16 O-1, so I definetly know what time is like for making a knife. I also took the hand filed knives to a full satin finish 600 grit in about 3 hours, even getting the file grooves out. Does the time justify that extra cost?? Why is the forum knife $125 to $175 extra than the regular tracker and almost double the cost of other hunters the same size with equal or better materials?? Stabilized handle material, hand rubbed finish, and a shorter waiting period?? Is that how he justifies it??? If so, I MIGHT be able to see the extra cost, but that much extra?? Also, it seems pretty cheap to put peoples orders on hold to do a special knife for certain people, especially when he is making much more on the special knife. Is this really what he is doing or am I misinformed??? If I was waiting 2 years for a knife, and saw other people who ordered a knife were getting it much quicker, I would be a little bit pissed. 2 years is a pretty long wait, especially for a plain jane tracker. But then again, I hate waiting for anything!
I have not seen a Griffith or Blackwood or DenO, etc besides in Pictures here and on their sites, so I may not be a credible person, but what I do see if the reviews on the people's work. What really sticks out in my mind is people's praise when they get a good knife. What I really remember is the review of Griffith's patrolman with serrations, the one dubbed the "tactical Steak Knife". Serrations are a pain, so I won't comment on those and that was at the customers request, who ignored Lynns warning against them. From what I read, plunge cuts were very slightly off, Handle thickness was slightly off, and there were a few other minor surface imperfections, but those aren't a big deal, for a knife. My question is if that was a fluke or is that how his knives are? Judging by other peoples posts, he does great work and these were flukes. But then again, are the people biased?? I would give Lynn a fair chance because he offered to do a favor for me earlier this spring when I wanted to do a Tracker like a kit model.
I just want an unbiased review of Lynn's stuff. I have heard great things and bad things about him, and I'm not sure what to believe. Yes, ptpalpha, I posted on Lynn's forum earlier in the year as Taz575. Yes, I though his stuff was nice and could see buying a tracker for $225. Then I saw other people's stuff with same grade steel or better, higher finished ie mirror as the standard finish, nicer handle material, etc, for the same price or lower and a shorter waiting period and was wondering why Lynn charges so much. Are his knives really that much better than everyone elses??? That's why I haven't posted in a long time in Lynn's forum and I don't see myself posting there anymore. I started making my own knives this summer, first by hand filing, then with a 1x30 belt sander, so I can definetly see how time is factored into knife cost, but that much to justify the much higher cost and longer waiting period as opposed to other makers?? I don't mean to troll or anything, I just wanted to give my opinion and get the real facts of what is going on. I thought I got a real unbiased review from Chiro75's test, but I guess Lynn didn't like it, so he banned Chiro from his forum. The review wasn't bad at all, just a few minor complaints, and Chiro's praise outweighed the slight imperfections.
If people want to pay $350 to $400 for a special knife, fine. Let them pay that much. If you don't want to pay that much, then don't buy it. My point is this. Yes, I saw the bashing and thought it was funny as heck, then I realized it was a little childish, and maybe unfair to Lynn, but Lynn was also unfair to Chiro I feel. Chiro tried to contact Lynn to discuss the knives, but failed for some reason.
I think it is time to let this post die. Jeremy, Herman, et al, I understand where you are coming from and totally agree with you, but i think we have to stop now before people start getting upset and start crying. Ptpalpha, I also feel you are slightly to blame. You know several people here feel this way about Lynn's stuff and you posted here knowing full well that this could happen. You have every right to post here as does everyone, but when you posted, you knew the risks. This forum is made so people can voice their opinions, which is what happened. I am sorry this happened, but it would have happened sooner or later. Ptpalpha, I see from your photopoint page that you have a few Griffiths, and several from Neil Blackwood. What is your HONEST opinion about the knives and prices of each? I am not saying that Lynn is a bad knifemaker, I am just asking if his prices are justified or not. You have griffith's and other makers knives, so you would know what the comparisons are. Why don't you inform the people here what the quality of them are? I have also seen other peoples reviews of Lynn's stuff and they love it! I don't have any custom knives except the ones I am making. Please enlighten us, ptpalpha and i apoligize if I spell your name wrong. If the knife prices are justified, fine.
People have the right to post what they want, but know that when you do, people may disagree with you and have every right to disagree. Did it go too far? Maybe, maybe not. If you want to bash a knife, bash mine!!! The pic is in my second post, end of page one. I know it isn't perfect, but I am proud of it and it was my 5th one I made. I charged my uncle $30 for it, with a Cordura Sheath. For other people, it would have been about 60 or 70 w/o sheath. Why? because I got the HT for free as a favor, sheath material for free by a great guy. My stuff isn't that great yet, but it works. I hope to get better at it as I go and my prices will reflect that. I will try to keep prices as low as I can and what I feel is justified for the quality of my work. Pricing is always a sensitive issue, and often debatable. If people will pay it, fine. if they don't feel it is worth it, they won't buy it.
Ptpalpha, keep posting LG specials if you want, but be ready for negative reviews and thoughts. Guys, people know your opinions by now, so I think it is safe to say we can lay off and start bashing my blades now!
Now, on the forum knife note. Lynn says he will pick the handle material from his colelction of stabilized wood. I for one would want to pick the wood on a knife if it is a special knife and cost $400!! Also, he needs 20 orders?? Is this correct or did I misread something? Is that so he can HT in a batch?? Why can't he make just 5 or 10 of the knives?? That would be $2,000 to $4000 approx at his $400 price, which is a pretty good profit. ATS isn't that expensive from the right places, Bos Heat treats 20 blades for $60, Stabilized wood can be expensive, I grant you, but its only like $30 or $40, using incredibly expensive stuff. The steel would be about $15 a blade using very high steel prices. Pins, epoxy, etc would run about $10 at the most, including mosaic pins. That is less than $65 in materials per knife, not counting belts, etc. Belts last for several knives, so even saying belts for one knife costs about $30, you are still under $100 for the materials. The sheeath material isn't that expensive, but i guess a lot of time goes into it. i think the sheath are the saem on the forum and non forum knife, so I don't think it is different. Time, well, I know time is a big factor, but I have ground blades on a POS 1x30, so I know what spending time on the stuff is like. I also started out hand filing blades of 3/16 O-1, so I definetly know what time is like for making a knife. I also took the hand filed knives to a full satin finish 600 grit in about 3 hours, even getting the file grooves out. Does the time justify that extra cost?? Why is the forum knife $125 to $175 extra than the regular tracker and almost double the cost of other hunters the same size with equal or better materials?? Stabilized handle material, hand rubbed finish, and a shorter waiting period?? Is that how he justifies it??? If so, I MIGHT be able to see the extra cost, but that much extra?? Also, it seems pretty cheap to put peoples orders on hold to do a special knife for certain people, especially when he is making much more on the special knife. Is this really what he is doing or am I misinformed??? If I was waiting 2 years for a knife, and saw other people who ordered a knife were getting it much quicker, I would be a little bit pissed. 2 years is a pretty long wait, especially for a plain jane tracker. But then again, I hate waiting for anything!
I have not seen a Griffith or Blackwood or DenO, etc besides in Pictures here and on their sites, so I may not be a credible person, but what I do see if the reviews on the people's work. What really sticks out in my mind is people's praise when they get a good knife. What I really remember is the review of Griffith's patrolman with serrations, the one dubbed the "tactical Steak Knife". Serrations are a pain, so I won't comment on those and that was at the customers request, who ignored Lynns warning against them. From what I read, plunge cuts were very slightly off, Handle thickness was slightly off, and there were a few other minor surface imperfections, but those aren't a big deal, for a knife. My question is if that was a fluke or is that how his knives are? Judging by other peoples posts, he does great work and these were flukes. But then again, are the people biased?? I would give Lynn a fair chance because he offered to do a favor for me earlier this spring when I wanted to do a Tracker like a kit model.
I just want an unbiased review of Lynn's stuff. I have heard great things and bad things about him, and I'm not sure what to believe. Yes, ptpalpha, I posted on Lynn's forum earlier in the year as Taz575. Yes, I though his stuff was nice and could see buying a tracker for $225. Then I saw other people's stuff with same grade steel or better, higher finished ie mirror as the standard finish, nicer handle material, etc, for the same price or lower and a shorter waiting period and was wondering why Lynn charges so much. Are his knives really that much better than everyone elses??? That's why I haven't posted in a long time in Lynn's forum and I don't see myself posting there anymore. I started making my own knives this summer, first by hand filing, then with a 1x30 belt sander, so I can definetly see how time is factored into knife cost, but that much to justify the much higher cost and longer waiting period as opposed to other makers?? I don't mean to troll or anything, I just wanted to give my opinion and get the real facts of what is going on. I thought I got a real unbiased review from Chiro75's test, but I guess Lynn didn't like it, so he banned Chiro from his forum. The review wasn't bad at all, just a few minor complaints, and Chiro's praise outweighed the slight imperfections.
If people want to pay $350 to $400 for a special knife, fine. Let them pay that much. If you don't want to pay that much, then don't buy it. My point is this. Yes, I saw the bashing and thought it was funny as heck, then I realized it was a little childish, and maybe unfair to Lynn, but Lynn was also unfair to Chiro I feel. Chiro tried to contact Lynn to discuss the knives, but failed for some reason.
I think it is time to let this post die. Jeremy, Herman, et al, I understand where you are coming from and totally agree with you, but i think we have to stop now before people start getting upset and start crying. Ptpalpha, I also feel you are slightly to blame. You know several people here feel this way about Lynn's stuff and you posted here knowing full well that this could happen. You have every right to post here as does everyone, but when you posted, you knew the risks. This forum is made so people can voice their opinions, which is what happened. I am sorry this happened, but it would have happened sooner or later. Ptpalpha, I see from your photopoint page that you have a few Griffiths, and several from Neil Blackwood. What is your HONEST opinion about the knives and prices of each? I am not saying that Lynn is a bad knifemaker, I am just asking if his prices are justified or not. You have griffith's and other makers knives, so you would know what the comparisons are. Why don't you inform the people here what the quality of them are? I have also seen other peoples reviews of Lynn's stuff and they love it! I don't have any custom knives except the ones I am making. Please enlighten us, ptpalpha and i apoligize if I spell your name wrong. If the knife prices are justified, fine.
People have the right to post what they want, but know that when you do, people may disagree with you and have every right to disagree. Did it go too far? Maybe, maybe not. If you want to bash a knife, bash mine!!! The pic is in my second post, end of page one. I know it isn't perfect, but I am proud of it and it was my 5th one I made. I charged my uncle $30 for it, with a Cordura Sheath. For other people, it would have been about 60 or 70 w/o sheath. Why? because I got the HT for free as a favor, sheath material for free by a great guy. My stuff isn't that great yet, but it works. I hope to get better at it as I go and my prices will reflect that. I will try to keep prices as low as I can and what I feel is justified for the quality of my work. Pricing is always a sensitive issue, and often debatable. If people will pay it, fine. if they don't feel it is worth it, they won't buy it.
Ptpalpha, keep posting LG specials if you want, but be ready for negative reviews and thoughts. Guys, people know your opinions by now, so I think it is safe to say we can lay off and start bashing my blades now!
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lifter,
i just asked a simple question i thought was perfectly legitimate. why ptpalpha got so bent out of shape and started the insults i have no idea! i guess the truth hurts, eh? i guess when lynns groupies look around at other knives and prices they must feel pretty bent over, therefore real defensive? i have a nice Easler double ground fighter with ivory micarta, red fiber liners and beautiful scrimshaw of a nekkid lady with a real nice leather sheath i paid $400 for! and Russell has been around a long time as has Ron Gaston, who make a far superior knife for the money.
hey, i didnt start this mess. and i still didnt get an honest answer to my question.... why is that??
i just asked a simple question i thought was perfectly legitimate. why ptpalpha got so bent out of shape and started the insults i have no idea! i guess the truth hurts, eh? i guess when lynns groupies look around at other knives and prices they must feel pretty bent over, therefore real defensive? i have a nice Easler double ground fighter with ivory micarta, red fiber liners and beautiful scrimshaw of a nekkid lady with a real nice leather sheath i paid $400 for! and Russell has been around a long time as has Ron Gaston, who make a far superior knife for the money.
hey, i didnt start this mess. and i still didnt get an honest answer to my question.... why is that??
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Taz,
I feel your last post was very well thought out. I appreciate it. Many good points were made.
Thanks,
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Lynn Griffith-Knifemaker
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I feel your last post was very well thought out. I appreciate it. Many good points were made.
Thanks,
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Lynn Griffith-Knifemaker
griffithknives.com
GriffithKN@aol.com
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