Manix 2: S30V or S110V?

That is a bummer. If you really think you got a lemon you should send it in. While S30V is no slouch I can tell a difference and S110V holds an edge a bit longer in my experiences. Sorry to hear that yours isn't living up to expectations.
 
Wowbagger said:
Hahaha
I've sharpened mine many,many times. :rolleyes:
I would prefer if my S110V held up similar to my M390. In theory it should be better. It sure as heck is not.
I got S30V just to try it because so many have it. I expected it to be no big deal and would have to maintain it about like AUS 8
Surprise, surprise, surprise, I GOT MY MONEYS WORTH THERE.
I used it again at work today (DAY 11) and it is still cutting and making me smile.

It went TrimmmmmmmmmmSNICK

After two days the lemon 110 I got would be going : gouge . . . trimmSKIP . . . gouge . . . skiptrimmskip . . . all the time saying "put me back in your pocket; I'm just not up to it today :o".
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I use an S110V custom in the kitchen pretty much every day and have for YEARS.... That's not including all of the testing I have done on S110V in various blades.

So I have a pretty good idea what it should do.

So if that knife is giving so much problems call support and send it in and see what Spyderco says, they made the knife so I am sure they can check it out.

Crying about it all over the forum will not help..... ;)

Phone: 800-525-7770
 
Crying about it all over the forum will not help.....
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I was kind of hoping Sal would see it and say what you guys said.
I suppose I would need a return authorization from Spyderco. From what I have seen here when people contact Spyderco they get the run around and are told to just shut up and enjoy their broken spring or what not.

Then Sal gets involved and things happen.
Am I wrong ?

Jim :
It's not too late to pickup this one of a kind collector's item from me in trade for your old worn out manix with that weak little thinned out blade . :p I could give it a good home in it's declining years :p

I mean sounds like mine is the only Manix of it's kind and so is singularly collectable in the knife world. Just think what this puppy could bring properly managed by a savvy knife dude such as yourself ! :cool: :thumbup:

Don't hesitate is my advice this thing is toooo hot to hang around !

PS:I just noticed the ph. no for Spyderco. Will do.
Thanks
 
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Wowbagger said:
I was kind of hoping Sal would see it and say what you guys said.
I suppose I would need a return authorization from Spyderco. From what I have seen here when people contact Spyderco they get the run around and are told to just shut up and enjoy their broken spring or what not.

Then Sal gets involved and things happen.
Am I wrong ?

Jim :
It's not too late to pickup this one of a kind collector's item from me in trade for your old worn out manix with that weak little thinned out blade . :p I could give it a good home in it's declining years :p

I mean sounds like mine is the only Manix of it's kind and so is singularly collectable in the knife world. Just think what this puppy could bring properly managed by a savvy knife dude such as yourself ! :cool: :thumb up:

Don't hesitate is my advice this thing is toooo hot to hang around !
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Customer service will take of you, I wouldn't put too much stock in what some say... ;)
 
Wowbagger said:
I was kind of hoping Sal would see it and say what you guys said.
I suppose I would need a return authorization from Spyderco. From what I have seen here when people contact Spyderco they get the run around and are told to just shut up and enjoy their broken spring or what not.
Then Sal gets involved and things happen.
Am I wrong ?

Jim :
It's not too late to pickup this one of a kind collector's item from me in trade for your old worn out manix with that weak little thinned out blade . :p I could give it a good home in it's declining years :p

I mean sounds like mine is the only Manix of it's kind and so is singularly collectable in the knife world. Just think what this puppy could bring properly managed by a savvy knife dude such as yourself ! :cool: :thumbup:

Don't hesitate is my advice this thing is toooo hot to hang around !

PS:I just noticed the ph. no for Spyderco. Will do.
Thanks
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No way. I had an Endura with a defect that was clearly a materials/workmanship issue on the blade. I emailed Spyderco and received within a 24 hours a request to send it in for evaluation. Within 2 weeks I had a new replacement knife. Spyderco CS is very good.
 
Wowbagger said:
I was kind of hoping Sal would see it and say what you guys said.
I suppose I would need a return authorization from Spyderco. From what I have seen here when people contact Spyderco they get the run around and are told to just shut up and enjoy their broken spring or what not.

Then Sal gets involved and things happen.
Am I wrong ?

Jim :
It's not too late to pickup this one of a kind collector's item from me in trade for your old worn out manix with that weak little thinned out blade . :p I could give it a good home in it's declining years :p

I mean sounds like mine is the only Manix of it's kind and so is singularly collectable in the knife world. Just think what this puppy could bring properly managed by a savvy knife dude such as yourself ! :cool: :thumbup:

Don't hesitate is my advice this thing is toooo hot to hang around !

PS:I just noticed the ph. no for Spyderco. Will do.
Thanks
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I ve had no trouble with Spyderco s customer service. Send it back to them.
 
I have a Native in S110V and have sharpened my fair share of Spyderco's in S110V. I think the steel is on the softer side but not so much that it really hurts anything. Typical of these steels though, it looses its high degree of sharpness quickly in favor of a somewhat dull working edge. I've also noticed rolling and some micro chipping from what you could consider light use.

That said,

I thinned out the edge considerably, probably 12 dps at a guess, in hopes to improve performance and to also see what it could take. I finish sharpened the edge with a DMT EF and have been using it a fair amount. Counter to what should have happened the edge seems to roll less and keep its fine sharpness longer. I intentionally whittled some hardwood while using a lot of twisting motion at the end of the cut and the results were what I would consider typical of such work. After bringing the edge angle back a few degrees and sharpening to a little finer of an edge the performance in my S110V Native has been great IMO.

Personally, I find S110V to be considerably tougher than S30V in daily use while having obvious edge retention advantages. The one improvement that I think should be targeted by Spyderco is grinding S110V blades much thinner, many are overly thick which causes sharpening difficulties and poor performance. My Native was 0.03 behind the bevel from the factory and had terrible performance, I thinned it to 0.01 and sharpened to a very low inclusive edge angle before the performance started changing for the better.
 
I remember few years ago some russians did tested Manix2 on rope cutting and got very poor results. They did video about it and claimed that S110V steel heat threat was bad. But after sending it to Ankerson and his sharpening it showed similar results with Ankersons tested sample Manix2. So maybe there's not only bad steel and lemon sample?

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I have a Manix in S30V and a lightweight in 110V. Prefer the Manix in S30 simply because of the mass. Haven't used the S110 enough to to know the difference in edge retention. Never been disappointed in S30 but look forward to chasing the S110Vs potential. Of coarse 440C with good HT and geometry has always met my needs 😄😄😄😄😄
 
This is relevant info and you might find it interesting...Spyderco and heat-treat consistency

Having read many threads regarding special steels and heat-treating methods, I noted that there has been significant speculation concerning Spyderco's HT standards using S110V. The primary thread, I believe, is Ankerson's recent review of the S110V Military...where he gave the steel an outstanding review. This seems to have aroused great hope in the fans that similar magnificent results, in edge-holding, are to be expected in other Spyderco models using the same steel...

I sent an inquiry to Spyderco concerning their HT consistency within the various models built around a particular steel. I asked, more specifically, whether all of the S110V models...(Millie, PM2, various Manix varieties) would have the same heat-treat standard.

Here is the response which I received in short order...
"Sir,

Thank you for contacting us with your question.

Our heat treating processes are based on the Steel being used, rather than the model of knife. As a result all of the S110V steel used in our knives will be heat treated to the same standard.

Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions.

Kindest Regards,
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Joshua Davis
Spyderco Factory Outlet | Spyderc

New info added:
Ankerson reports "The Manix 2 LW I tested 2 years ago was 62.

The Military is 63-64 so I would expect the sister models to be the same so performance should be comparable."
 
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