Municipal Code Database

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Somebody asked a "What's the knife law in X and Y?" question over in the Benchmade Forum, and somebody else posted a link to this municipal code database. It's definitely a "work in progress," since it most municipalities aren't in it (the database may be only those that subscribe to their service), but it's worth checking. And if you see a prohibition in a municipal code in your region, don't be surprised if it turns up in other municipalities that aren't in the database. The company that maintains this page sells its services to municipalities, including model ordinances, to save city and county governments the trouble of "re-inventing the wheel." Perhaps some AKTI people should contact Municipal Code Corporation and offer to work with them.

Here's one from Federal Way, Washington:

Sec. 6-138. Weapons prohibited on liquor sale premises.
(a) It is a misdemeanor for anyone, on or in any premises in the city where alcoholic beverages are dispensed by the drink to:
(1) Carry in any manner any firearm, rifle or handgun, whether such person has a license or permit to carry such firearm or not, and whether such firearm is concealed or not;
(2) Carry any knife, sword, dagger or other cutting or stabbing instrument, with a blade of a length of three inches or more, or any razor with an unguarded blade, whether such weapon or instrument is concealed or not;
(3) Carry any instrument or weapon of the kind usually known as a slingshot, taser, throwing star, bow, sand club, blackjack, metal knuckles, or any stick, chain, metal pipe, bar, club or combination thereof including a device known as numchuk sticks, or any like device having the same or similar components or parts, whether or not connected by a rope, chain or other device, or any explosive or any poison or injurious gas, or any other instrument or weapon apparently capable of producing bodily harm, whether such instrument or weapon is concealed or not.
(b) The provisions of subsection (a) of this section shall not apply to or affect the following:
(1) Any lawful act committed by a person while in his or her fixed place of business;
(2) Any person who by virtue of his or her office or public employment is vested by law with a duty to preserve public safety, maintain public order, or to make arrests for offenses, whether during regular duty hours or not; or
(3) Any person making or assisting in making a lawful arrest for the commission of a felony.
(c) Upon conviction, the weapon or instrument involved may be confiscated by order of the court and shall thereafter be disposed of in accordance with statutes or ordinances governing the disposal of confiscated or found property.
(Ord. No. 91-89, § 1(9.20.030), 3-5-91)

While the city council may have been worried about people pulling knives and guns during bar fights, this would also seem to apply to any respectable restaurant where you can order a glass of wine or a beer with your meal. If you're driving through Federal Way, and you have a "full-size" folder clipped to your pocket, and you're hungry....

Municipal authorities would typically answer such a question with some comment about the common sense and discretion of their law enforcement people, and what you might or might not be doing to bring yourself to their attention. I used a Spyderco Endura to remove a dangerously sharp sliver from a wooden chair in a restaurant in nearby Tacoma once, and the waiter was surprised somebody would carry a knife that big.

I checked the few cities listed in my part of the world, and found that Agoura Hills pretty much mirrors the Los Angeles ordinances against sale to minors and open carry of knives over three inches, but without the exception for a "recognized religious practice." And three cities in Orange County are only concerned with mobile food service vehicles ("roach coaches") having safe storage of knives in event of a collision.

To be continued ....



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- JKM
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The city of Fremont, CA, prohibits anybody from having "dangerous weapons," and that includes any knife with a blade over two inches. Unless it has something to do with lawful domestic or commercial activity. You'd better be able to explain your Swiss Army Knife in Fremont.


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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
Some more haphazard gleanings from that www.municode.com web site:

The city of Fremont, CA, prohibits anybody from having "dangerous weapons," and that includes any knife with a blade over two inches. Unless it has something to do with lawful domestic or commercial activity. You'd better be able to explain your Swiss Army Knife in Fremont.

There's a three inch limit for public places in Lansing, MI.

The city of Denver, Colorado, prohibits carrying, concealed or openly, or the furnishing to a minor, of any knife with a blade over 3.5" unless the knife is a "household knife" and there is some reasonable sort of reason for it to be out of the house. Also...

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, display, use, possess, carry or transport any knife or instrument having the appearance of a pocket knife, the blade of which can be opened by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle, or other mechanical contrivance.

Is a nail nick on the blade of a tradtional folder a mechanical contrivance? How about a Kershaw-Onion Speed-Safe? Has Denver prohibited any folding knife that can be opened?

Other Colorado municipal codes seem to agree on 3.5" as a limit for concealed carry.

The city of Chicago, IL, doesn't want anybody reading their ordinances without paying for the privilege, so theirs are password-protected.

In Minneapolis, MN, if you are a parent who routinely carries a pocket knife, and you drive your child to school, you should be sure to drop him or her off across the street from the school, lest you violate this one:

393.60. Possession of knives or weapons in schools. It shall be unlawful for any person to be in possession of, carry, transport or control any knife or weapon in any school building, on the grounds of any school building, in any school bus, in any school parking area or sidewalks adjacent thereto except where such knives or weapons are used in or as a part of any law enforcement or instructional activity carried on in the school, used in the preparation or consumption of food in any lunchroom, cafeteria, snack bar, or other place where food is customarily prepared or served, or when used as a tool by a person authorized to perform construction, repair or maintenance services on school property. (83-Or-241, § 1, 9-30-83; 86-Or-149, § 1, 6-27-86; 89-Or-094, § 1, 5-26-89)



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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
More ...

That www.municode.com site covers more municipalities in the southeast USA than anywhere else.

Richmond, VA requires a police permit to purchase a Bowie knife or a dirk, and prohibits "clasp knives" longer than 3.25".

So it goes ....


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- JKM
www.chaicutlery.com
AKTI Member # SA00001
 
Some other sites that offer municipal codes: www.spl.org/govpubs/municode.html and www.lawresearch.com/v2/Codemun1.HTM .

"Findlaw" is my favorite resource ( www.findlaw.com ) . Look under "US State Resources" here for municipal codes. For example; here are California's municipal and county codes and ordinances: http://california.findlaw.com/CA01_codes/municode.html

It is fun to look through the different knife laws. Some places have really weird laws. In Atlanta, for instance, folding knives that lock open with blades over 2" are illegal, while fixed-blades up to 3" are legal! Plus, automatics are legal with blades up to 2"!

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"Sec. 106-306. Knives, razors, similar weapons.

It shall be unlawful for any person to have in such person's possession, except within such person's own residence or place of business, any of the following implements unless securely wrapped so as not to be readily available for use:

(1) Any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle, the blade of which when open projects from the handle more than two inches;

(2) Any knife which has any obstruction or other device of any kind which holds the blade partly open, the blade of which when open projects from the handle more than two inches;

(3) Any knife of any kind, the blade of which when open projects from the handle more than three inches; this is intended to include all knives such as butcher knives or other knives which do not close;"


[This message has been edited by cerulean (edited 07-12-2000).]
 
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