Mysterious titanium plate

LadyEarth said:
Seems like people are forgetting that the military tends to do a lot of testing with prototypes and all that before making an actual production model going forward. This could be from one such testing.
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Excellent point, Lady Earth.


katanas said:
Wade, there ARE knives in this thread just as there was "David" in that big hunk of marble. ;)
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HA thanks for that, Katanas. :D That's the whole point of the thread, other than pure fun: This thing is going to become blades of some sort!

As for titanium armor, the best application that I can think of for ti armor is personal body armor. The Russians did it in the 80s, and even recently someone made a ti Captain America shield that is actually bulletproof. Grade 38, I believe.

You're going to start seeing Grade 38 more and more. It's excellent stuff.
 
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Monofletch said:
The M2 Bradley is aluminum. The front two turret plates and the front slope of the hull is DU on an Abrams. In the Gulf war they put extra DU plates on our tanks before we left the port.
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I know that the Bradley and M113 are aluminum. I thought maybe they would put a Ti plate somewhere though to boost armour like the DU plates on the Abrams. That was pure speculation though.
 
shinyedges said:
I work for a DoD contractor and we machine armor for tanks and strykers amongst other things. Let me do some digging.
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Well, I did a little digging and didn't find much. The armors we machine are 46100, 12560, armor aluminum, and a few other steels that are hardened and tempered to increase bullet and blast resistance. Out side of the armor we machine a HUGE variety of steel, everything from nitronic 60 to titanium. All of that is utterly useless though for the random piece of TI you got Mecha Mecha , sorry. I will still keep my eyes peeled.
 
LadyEarth said:
Mecha Mecha Do you think that you can make a blade with the titanium and have it perform better than the Busse knives?
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Which Busse alloy, SR77, SR101 or INFI?

Perform better in what sense?
Edge retention, shock absorption, stain resistance, etc?


Keeping Busse knives in mind, Each category above can be exceeded by a myriad of alloys, ferrous/non-ferrous alike.

This Ti alloy is simply unknown, not magical (I mean, I don't Think it is...). It may or may not even be hardenable to a usable degree (for knives/hatchets). That being said, I think it should be a Ti alloy that can be hardened since the damage it took and how it deformed/tore. Then again, I am just some guy that is into knives... Not a specialist.
 
NJBillK said:
Which Busse alloy, SR77, SR101 or INFI?

Perform better in what sense?
Edge retention, shock absorption, stain resistance, etc?


Keeping Busse knives in mind, Each category above can be exceeded by a myriad of alloys, ferrous/non-ferrous alike.

This Ti alloy is simply unknown, not magical (I mean, I don't Think it is...). It may or may not even be hardenable to a usable degree (for knives/hatchets). That being said, I think it should be a Ti alloy that can be hardened since the damage it took and how it deformed/tore. Then again, I am just some guy that is into knives... Not a specialist.
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Busse knives = Infi
Swamp Rat = SR101
ScrapYard = SR77

Since I said Busse knives, it stands to reason exactly what I was referring to. ;)

Also, perform better than Busse knives is basically all of what you listed and then some.

My question still stands to Mecha Mecha
 
Whatever it was and whatever it will become, I'm in. I've wanted a piece of sharpened titanium to whack around with for some time now.
 
LadyEarth said:
Busse knives = Infi
Swamp Rat = SR101
ScrapYard = SR77

Since I said Busse knives, it stands to reason exactly what I was referring to. ;)

Also, perform better than Busse knives is basically all of what you listed and then some.

My question still stands to Mecha Mecha
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Their recent battle grade offerings are sr101, no?
 
LadyEarth said:
Busse knives = Infi
Swamp Rat = SR101
ScrapYard = SR77

Since I said Busse knives, it stands to reason exactly what I was referring to. ;)

Also, perform better than Busse knives is basically all of what you listed and then some.

My question still stands to Mecha Mecha
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Busse also makes SR101 knives under the Battle Grade moniker. The swamp has also made some knives in INFI, though not many, so my question stands.

ETA: Scrap Yard makes no mention of SR77 as their alloy. In fact, under their steels, they Only list SR101 and INFI. Though Swamp Rat lists SR101 and Busse lists INFI.
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"Depending on the amounts of a certain steel we have available and the knife run we are planning we may use SR-101, or INFI."
 
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Fun thread, very cool hunk of metal. I learned a lot, I had no idea we were making armor out of depleted uranium, I had only ever heard of DU ammo. And I didn't think you could harden Ti at all, and this was why it wasn't generally used for blades--great strength, light weight, but too bendy.

I do remember seeing a custom maker (name escapes me) had done a Ti Naginata--Ti shaft, anyway. Very cool, very expensive.
 
NJBillK said:
Busse also makes SR101 knives under the Battle Grade moniker. The swamp has also made some knives in INFI, though not many, so my question stands.

ETA: Scrap Yard makes no mention of SR77 as their alloy. In fact, under their steels, they Only list SR101 and INFI. Though Swamp Rat lists SR101 and Busse lists INFI.
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Taken from the above:
"Depending on the amounts of a certain steel we have available and the knife run we are planning we may use SR-101, or INFI."
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Thank you for making it very clear that you don’t understand that Busse knives are traditionally done in INFI metal for the last 20’ish years. Now that is established, moving on.

My question to Mecha Mecha still stands.
 
LadyEarth said:
Thank you for making it very clear that you don’t understand that Busse knives are traditionally done in INFI metal for the last 20’ish years. Now that is established, moving on.

My question to Mecha Mecha still stands.
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I don't see the point of you chasing down this point, nor do I find it to be an interesting or even useful question.

Mecha -- I'm stoked to see whatever you end up doing with that chunk of Ti!
 
BenjaminRush said:
I don't see the point of you chasing down this point, nor do I find it to be an interesting or even useful question.

Mecha -- I'm stoked to see whatever you end up doing with that chunk of Ti!
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Thank you for your subjective stance that had nothing to do with my own stance. In another word, it was a waste of energy on your end to even utter in first place. Easier to keep it inside your own head instead.

Meanwhile, I’m still curious about how it will perform against a Busse knife.
 
You're expecting it to be some magical Titanium alloy...but it's not. It will never be as hard, wear resistant or strong as hardened cutlery grade steel of the same dimensions. What it can be is close to those aspects at a fraction of the weight.

Apples and oranges...

~Chip

ETA: And impervious to most acids (in case of Aliens)
 
LadyEarth said:
Thank you for your subjective stance that had nothing to do with my own stance. In another word, it was a waste of energy on your end to even utter in first place. Easier to keep it inside your own head instead.

Meanwhile, I’m still curious about how it will perform against a Busse knife.
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But which Busse alloy, SR77, SR101 or INFI?

Perform better in what sense?
Edge retention, shock absorption, stain resistance, etc?
 
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