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Nope. No credit to give. They’ve been on a steady decline for a long time in my opinion.
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Only the books know. A distant outside look doesn't cut it. A perception as a consumer doesnt cut it either, They sell a lot more than knives. I don't buy Gerber and I don't think anyone on here can say if they make money or lose money. Ive seen Gerber in most major retailers though.
10 times the revenue of Spyderco.
Gerber Gear/Revenue
100 million USD
Portland, OR
Buck Knives
80 million USD
Spyderco
10 million USD
Böker
30 million USD
Victorinox
510 million CHF (2014)
Toto Ltd.
573.8 billion JPY (consolidated, March 2017)
Smith & Wesson
903 million USD (2016)
Cabela's
4.129 billion USD (2016)
Bass Pro Shops
4.58 billion USD (2016)
More about Gerber Gear
Type
Corporation
Industry Manufacturing
Founded Portland, Oregon
1939; 79 years ago
Headquarters Tigard, Oregon
Key people
Pete Gerber, Founder
Products Knives
Revenue US$100 million
Number of employees
300
Parent Fiskars
Website
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This was interesting to read,
Gerber’s current design of the composition of the metal for their knives all consist of high-quality materials, each with a specific layout in mind all tailored to the needs of the consumer. In just 20 years of crafting their fine blades, Gerber saw revenues near over $100,000,000, with an increase in demand and desire. Still growing till’ this day, Gerber is one of the few American-Made only brands that can outshine a questionable economy
Gerber’s current design of the composition of the metal for their knives all consist of high-quality materials, each with a specific layout in mind all tailored to the needs of the consumer. In just 20 years of crafting their fine blades, Gerber saw revenues near over $100,000,000, with an increase in demand and desire. Still growing till’ this day, Gerber is one of the few American-Made only brands that can outshine a questionable economy
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In my area, victorinox and gerber are the only knives/multitools sold at Target. Walmart sells a lot of Chinese made gerber, kershaw and crkt, one Chinese made spyderco, a bunch of us made buck, gerber and kershaw blades. I only buy them at the big box stores locally if on clearance. Unless I find myself without a knife in another state(as the result of flying commercial) where I head to the nearest wally world to pick up a $28 buck 110. If I needed a fixed blade in such a situation it would be either a buck119, or the gerber which is the subject of this thread. Cheap enough to be gifted before going through TSA again.
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Did you mean “partly American made?” Most of their knives and multi tools, as well as other gear are made overseas!
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Bdz1 has it’s place
Similar to aebl and nitro v
Makes alot if sense in a hard use stainless steel knife
Tough stuff
Similar to aebl and nitro v
Makes alot if sense in a hard use stainless steel knife
Tough stuff
Cedric does not seem to have them all in the list. Sometimes he omits them, not sure why. My list which should be complete based on his videos is below.
Standard Worksharp edge test (20 degrees micro convex for most tests. 17 degree edges on UNLEASHED tests) unless otherwise noted. The test counts the number of cuts to sisal rope.
CPM REX 121(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge(LANSKY)), 925 to 950 - Creely Knives
Maxamet(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 810 - Spyderco Manix 2, 17 degree edge, toothy
Maxamet, 563 - Spyderco Manix 2, 20 degree edge
S110V (UNLEASHED - 17dg edge) 500 - Spyderco Para 3
CPM M4(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 489 - Spyderco
K390(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 480 - Spyderco
CPM 4V, 475 - Bark River Knives, Kephart 5
S90V(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 440 - Benchmade Altitude
M390(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 440 - Steel Will Cutjack; M390(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 425 - REPLACEMENT Steel Will Modus
HAP40(UNLEASHED - 17dg edge), 415 - Spyderco Dragonfly 2
CPM 10V, 389 - Spyderco K2
Cru Wear(Polished Edge), 375 - Creely Knives
CTS-XHP (UNLEASHED), 370 - Cold Steel American Lawman, 17 degrees per side and polished edge
CPM 20CV, 351 - Benchmade Griptillian 555-1
Cru Wear(UNLEASHED - 17dg toothy edge 600 grit), 350 - Creely Knives
ZDP189, 336 - Spyderco Endura
M390, 334 - Lionsteel TRE; 400 cuts at 20 degrees on mirror polished edge - WE Knives 620j
CTS 204P, 321 - Spyderco Southard
ELMAX (Unleashed), 320 - Microtec DOC (20 degree mirror polished edge)
HAP40, 300 - Spyderco Dragonfly 2
CPM S110V, 295 - Spyderco Paramilitary 2; 281 - Spyderco Manix 2
SGPS, 291- Fallkniven U2
CTS 40CP, 285 - Strider SNG
CPM M4, 280 - Benchmade Contego; 224 - Spyderco Mantra
CPM S90V, 278 - Spyderco Native 5
S30V (UNLEASHED), 260 - 17DPS Polished Edge on Spyderco Sage
K390, 242 - Spyderco Police 4
CTS XHP, 242 - Cold Steel Broken Skull
ELMAX, 236 - Zero Tolerance 0562
LC200N, 226 - Spyderco Spydiechef
Vanadis 4, 225 - Zero Tolerance 0180 (???? 4V?)
CPM 3V, 209 - Cold Steel Master Hunter; 198, Bark River Bravo 1 LT
CPM S35VN, 198 - Kizer Gemini; 194, ZT0220; 187 - Reeve Sebenza
A2, 191 - Bark River JX6 (BRK does A2 right)
RWL34(RHC 59), 186 - Foolhardy Knives
Laminated CoS, 176 - Fallkniven PC
CPM S30V, 175 - Benchmade 940; 190 - Spyderco Sage
Aogami Blue Steel, 140 - Higo No Kami; 210 - Higo No Kami UNLEASHED, 14 degree edge
NIOLOX, 135 - Lionsteel T5
154CM, 124 - Leatherman Skeletool CX
D2, 120 - Ontario Rat 1 (Ontario does D2 right)
VG10, 115 - 17 degree polished edges, Spyderco Delica
CTS BD1, 112 - Cold Steel Voyager
CPM S35VN, 109 to 113 - ZT 0909 (TWO TESTS)
BDZ1(UNLEASHED), 111 - Gerber Strongarm
01, 109 - Tindall Knives Sawtooth Hunter
AEB L, 108 - DB Blades Custom Knife
Sleipner, 105 - Lionsteel SR11
14c28n, 105 - 17 degree polished edges, ? unknown knife
80CRv2, 100 - Terava Jaakari puukko
Infi, 90 - Busse
X12MF, 90 - Kizlyar Fileen
14c28n, 88 - Mora Garbera
1095 Cro Van, 87 - Ka Bar BK7 (better than std 1095)
N690co 87 - Spyderco Pingo
12C27, 85 - Greystone Custom Knife
VG10c 83 - Kizer Dukes; 75 - Spyderco Delica; 74 - Fallkniven F1
Ceramic, 80 - Savannah, Kitchen Knife
L6c 80 - Svord Peasant
420HC (UNLEASHED), 80 - Gerber Strongarm
440C 77 - Lionsteel Mini
BDZ1, 75 - Gerber Strongarm
440C, 75 Kizlyar Hero; 70 - Kizlyar Ute
1095, 75 - ESEE 4; 69 - SCHRADE 42D
VG1, 73 - Cold Steel SRK
9cr18mov, 72 - Freewolf Knife
14c28n, 71 - Real Steel E571
Case Chrome Vanadium, 70 to 77
D2, 67/70 - Viper Keeper
4116, 67 - Cold Steel Bushman
BOS 420HC, 67 - Buck vantage select
C75, 66 - Opinel
Case Tru Sharp, 60 to 65
AUS8, 60 - Al Mar Facon; 58 - Ontario Rat 1; 52 - Cold Steel Kobun
5160, 59 - Ontario Bushcraft Field
8cr14mov, 56 - Tonife Luminescence
12c27mod, 55 - Opinel
AN58, 53 - Nieto Pegaso
440c, 53 - Ganzo Gsomething
420HC, 50 - Gerber Strongarm
M390, 50 to 100 cuts(5 complete tests), Steel Will Modus (BOGUS KNIFE STEEL)
420hc, 44 - Leatherman Surge; 48 - Gerber Strongarm
8cr13mov, 48 - CRKT NOMA; 39 - CRKT Swindle
420 J2, 40 - Buck 311
440A, 38 - Becker Remora
5cr15mov, 37 - Gerber Index
Victorinox, 36 - Explorer
7cr13Mov, 35 - Bear Grylls Knife
Cast Iron, 20 - Amazon.com Cast Iron Kitchen Knife
???, 9 - Z HUNTER
???, 4 to 6 - Shit internet knife
???, 3 - Butter Knife
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Thank you! This is some really interesting info.
I just added to my notes that he is using 1 inch thick sisal rope.
Cedric is getting pretty famous on YouTube for his efforts. He has 10,000 followers who hang on every steel test. He is human, and I believe that plus/minus 10 cuts for any test is abt as accurate as he is going to get. He works very hard and is honest almost to a fault, if there is such a thing. This helps me when I look at the chart if I'm thinking abt buying some particular knife based on it's steel.
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I don't follow Gerber close enough to know the answer. I just know they succeed at different things. One is getting their product into stores. They must sell or the retailers wouldn't stock them.
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The design kicks butt. If they ever manufacture it out of S35VN, I'd buy four of them and give them to family members. I did not own one in any steel so I did buy ONE in BDZ-1, but that will be it for me. I cannot stand buying garbage and only bought based on the design.
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The gerber knife line is overwhelmingly manufactured in China. The quality ones, that we talk about here, and are made in the US are a tiny fraction of the knives they sell/produce.
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And without seeing the experimental method, pretty much meaningless.
And the Kardashians have millions of followers. Number of social media followers hardly equals authority.
Priceless. Gerber sprint runs. Oy.
I think what he was referring to is Pete's "Everyday Commentary" testing site. Pete describes his testing process in his site, and has a YT channel that contains numerous reviews as well as documenting some of his individual knife tests:
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At 20 dps it’s a 50% increase, at 17dps it’s performance is a 40% increase over the 420hc. Not bad, for a thick knife though! Not bad for Gerber, either. I hope they continue using this steel, and if they do I’lol get one and remember to go to 17dps!
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Never heard of him. Is he a member here?