Open Carrying Karambit, Scout Style

ZTFan said:
“Drawing from ancient photographs and text we added the archaic characteristic known as "cock-tail feathers". The three harpoon like barbs at the rear of the karambit are designed to catch/trap clothing (a technique used in filipino martial arts) it also will rip and tear- maximizing damage in a self-defense situation.”
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That seems like a not so great idea. Your knife catches in cloth and gets all bound up and no more slicey-dicey
 
California gets a lot of trash talk from the knee-jerk crowd though the knife laws aren't bad. But you cannot conceal a fixed blade, period. There is no percentage-concealed in any ordinance I have read, that one goes right in the urban legend trash bin with the "if it's not longer than your palm, then the length is fine" bit. I think the urge to carry scout-style sometimes come from the urge to work around no-conceal issue by having the blade not visible to anybody from the front. The logical corollary is that one is laying in ambush. Behind the back sheathing can also lead to comedy gold and interesting scars as well.

The only time I have ever seen a karambit in the wild was on the belt of a homeless teen girl. It was $10 MTech piece of junk, but it was right there out in the open. Anybody who wanted to mess with her knew that the stakes were a lot higher if she got a finger in that ring. It probably saved her a lot more hassle the same way that brightly-colored snakes don't get bothered a whole lot in nature.
 
BitingSarcasm said:
California gets a lot of trash talk from the knee-jerk crowd though the knife laws aren't bad. But you cannot conceal a fixed blade, period. There is no percentage-concealed in any ordinance I have read, that one goes right in the urban legend trash bin with the "if it's not longer than your palm, then the length is fine" bit. I think the urge to carry scout-style sometimes come from the urge to work around no-conceal issue by having the blade not visible to anybody from the front. The logical corollary is that one is laying in ambush. Behind the back sheathing can also lead to comedy gold and interesting scars as well.

The only time I have ever seen a karambit in the wild was on the belt of a homeless teen girl. It was $10 MTech piece of junk, but it was right there out in the open. Anybody who wanted to mess with her knew that the stakes were a lot higher if she got a finger in that ring. It probably saved her a lot more hassle the same way that brightly-colored snakes don't get bothered a whole lot in nature.
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I remember reading at some point about how much of a knife has to be visible, something about 80%+ or it's considered concealed.
I can no longer find it anywhere, just like they no longer state how fixed blades must be unconcealed while folders fully concealed.
It was a couple years since reading into it , and earlier I could not find either anywhere
 
Mitchell Knives said:
Carrying a fixed blade in a communist state that openly hates tools probably isn't the best idea.

I know people do it, but it might not be worth the hassle.

How about a folding karambit instead?
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I am not sure about commie california laws and if a knife clipped in the pocket is considered “concealed”.

Z ZTFan you might consider a waved karambit like the Emerson karambits or Spyderco karahawk and practice waving it until you can do it in your sleep. I have heard bad things about the reliability of the Fox Liner lock karambits but they recently released a frame lock version that looks very noce but is very expensive.

Charlie Mike Charlie Mike yeah but the cops take one look at you, turn on their sirens and run back home to their station.
 
Hickory n steel said:
I remember reading at some point about how much of a knife has to be visible, something about 80%+ or it's considered concealed.
I can no longer find it anywhere, just like they no longer state how fixed blades must be unconcealed while folders fully concealed.
It was a couple years since reading into it , and earlier I could not find either anywhere
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Then stop repeating it.

Giving legal advice online is always iffy, but if you choose to do so be prepared to cite a specific statute and /or court ruling to back up your claim before you post.

Giving incorrect information on a knife, steel, or brand etc is one thing. Doing so on a legal.issue is quite another.

Someone could take you seriously and actually believe you know what your talking about.

Incorrect information on this topic, if taken as truth, has consequences that include time, money, and a possible criminal record.

Now I'll step off my soapbox.
 
ZTFan said:
I am considering open carrying a TUSK in the small of the back, or scout style, with the tip of the blade facing my left side
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I would suggest you reconsider S.O.B carry. I carry a fixed karambit as a last ditch "get-off-me-knife" . The problem I see with scout carry is drawing from a flat on your back grapple situation.
 
If i still lived in California i left in 69, i would be "VERY" careful in regards to their strange knife laws.
California is one state that cares nothing, about a persons safety in defending themselves.
 
snapshot2017 said:
If i still lived in California i left in 69, i would be "VERY" careful in regards to their strange knife laws.
California is one state that cares nothing, about a persons safety in defending themselves.
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All depends on the county. Our sheriff is "shall issue" on CCW permits. Same with Madera County.
 
tueller said:
Bad spot for open carry. No retention and the ring and tacticool design says walk up behind me and take the knife. I hate open carry but if you must in front of you or on side where you can protect it.
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I agree with this. If you are going to open carry there is very little reason to do so on your back. I carry a concealed fixed blade every day back left hip opposite my gun. If I had to do so openly it would be cm style or more traditional on the hip. Hiking or camping might be a different story, but having a dangerous weapon you can easily be disarmed of as an EDC, openly, seems like a bad idea.
 
I agree with tueller and craytab. Choose a less movie like location for the knife.

I was about to post Charlie Mike OCs a large fixed blade in California with no issues. Obviously location is key though.
 
Here in Kern Co (couple of counties south of CM) the same. Very easy to get a permit. 72 counties in Kali and that decision about permits is left up to each individual county Sheriff, or Chief in large urban areas.
 
Hickory n steel said:
I'm pretty sure there's a percentage thing, I think it's genrally 80% or something that has to be visible.
If what is showing is very obviously a knife a cop could possibly cut you some slack, but that ring won't really scream knife.
Personally I'd show more, carry vertically ,or tuck your shirt in.
I don't like tucked shirts so I carry fixed blades vertically or diagonally at most.
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"Pretty sure" means squat in a legal discussion.

Hickory n steel said:
We actually have fairly good knife laws here in CA.
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No you don't.

Hickory n steel said:
I remember reading at some point about how much of a knife has to be visible, something about 80%+ or it's considered concealed.
I can no longer find it anywhere, just like they no longer state how fixed blades must be unconcealed while folders fully concealed.
It was a couple years since reading into it , and earlier I could not find either anywhere
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Seriously, stop bloviating on subjects you have no clue about. Stop.
 
ZTFan said:
I am considering open carrying a TUSK in the small of the back,

I live in California
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OP,
Things to consider.

1-Do you train with a karambit?
If not get some and get proficient with it.

2- SOB carry with the ring exposed is imho not the brightest placement.
People are curious especially the little kid behind you in the check out line.
Mommy look at this!

3- keep in mind of where we live.
Looks of a knife could be used against you.

4- OC of a blade draws unwanted attention. Good and Bad guys.

5- Treat knife defense like carrying a gun
in California.
Check out Practical Tactical.


6- I would give CMs comments the biggest weight because he OCs in California.


OP I live in SoCal and because of CM I am working on open carrying a Spyderco Mule Team.
 
craytab said:
"Pretty sure" means squat in a legal discussion.

No you don't.

Seriously, stop bloviating on subjects you have no clue about. Stop.
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Actually yes our knife laws are actually pretty good as far as state goes considering how much worse they could easily be.
Look them up.

Now you missed the point about the 80% thing which I can no longer find anyways, I was saying that the knife has really got to be carried as openly as possible.
 
You can't conceal a fixed blade with a CCW either ;)
 
Hickory n steel said:
Now you missed the point about the 80% thing which I can no longer find anyways,
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No one missed your point.

You failed to make it by posting incorrect legal info. Not the first time you posted that 80%, fully concealed folder stuff with no cites to back it up.

When informed readers see glaringly incorrect info in a post whatever follows is also discarded. So you see, you failed to make your point.
 
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