Parents, talk to your kids about appropriate knife display at school.

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Atmosphere

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I work at a public school, and for the second time in as many years, a younger kid is in trouble for foolish actions with a knife.

In neither case did the student actually make any threats or hurt anyone, but the rules are pretty straightforward.

Railing against the unfairness of a no-knife policy will do little good, so please - if you have a kid in public school, talk to him or her about proper behavior.

Keep it at home, but if you forget, keep it in your locker and keep your mouth shut.
 
Kids do stupid things. But my brother had this happen once. He had used his school backpack for camping in 3rd grade and he had accidentally left his little SAK in an outside pocket of it. Well when he found out in school, he left it in there and kept his mouth shut. I agree 100%.
 
I'm in 7th grade, and I often forget my smaller EDC knives in my pockets. If and when I feel the pocket clip, I just discreetly put the knife in my backpack.
 
Zanuha said:
I'm in 7th grade, and I often forget my smaller EDC knives in my pockets. If and when I feel the pocket clip, I just discreetly put the knife in my backpack.
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Your vocabulary and punctuation are better than many members twice your age. Good man.
 
Atmosphere said:
I work at a public school, and for the second time in as many years, a younger kid is in trouble for foolish actions with a knife. In neither case did the student actually make any threats or hurt anyone, but the rules are pretty straightforward.
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What a disgrace, the Public School (US) system, ran by socialists, who have converted to be Federal Citizens (civil rights only please); good corporate employees.

Unfortunately, no one within the District of Columbia (US), the federal zone, is allowed to own fire arms. It must be noted, that the district of Columbia has the highest entitlements (federal benefits paid out) and the highest crime rate, when compared to the 50 union states by population.

Keep your kids out of public school and away from the TV. Teach your children to own and bare arms and how to safely use them, maintain them and to hunt with them. Teach your children that anything associated with the name US, is a corporation; NEVER swear your allegiance to a corporation (not even if it looks cool children).

Now this child who brought his knife to school; unless he signed a contract with the corporation saying he wouldn't bring a knife to school, then there is nothing that was done wrong. Note, that no one may enter the child into a contract! So, the child has done no wrong, even if someone within the corporate school system has decide to make a knife policy (code of conduct). The child (that constitutional national) can only be in the wrong if he injured another or did damage to property, at which point there would need to be on the record a verified compliant by the injured party.
 
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Schpankme said:
Now this child who brought his knife to school; unless he signed a contract with the corporation saying he wouldn't bring a knife to school, then there is nothing that was done wrong. Note, that no one may enter the child into a contract! So, the child has done no wrong, even if someone within the corporate school system has decide to make a knife policy (code of conduct). The child (that constitutional national) can only be in the wrong if he injured another or did damage to property, at which point there would need to be on the record a verified compliant by the injured party.
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That's a bit simplistic, in my opinion. A school can make up its rules and the pupils don't have to sign anything there. If you as a parent don't like the rules, well try to find another school then.

I remember that knives were forbidden in my school. Now, I am a knife nut like anyone here, yet I can see the point.
 
On two occasions I've had good friends accidentally bring knives to school. Both were fire fighters, however. One gave his to the on-duty school cop and was able to receive it after school was over from the station without a problem and the other kept his mouth shut and was ok.
 
I'm a senior in high school, I have a little auto knife that I leave on my keychain with my car keys, flashdrive and etc that I need. I just dont go waving it around and brag about it, I leave it in my pocket (it's all on a carabiner that I usually clip on a belt loop, but for when I'm in school I keep it in my pocket) because I dont feel like taking a 2-inch (1-inch blade) knife on and off my keychain everyday. Like I said, keep it discreet and don't actually use it and you'll be fine.
 
I carried a knife all through school here in Texas. The law doesn't say that you can't, except for the group of knives that are listed as "illegal knives"...those may not be taken into a school.
 
Schpankme said:
What a disgrace, the Public School (US) system, ran by socialists, who have converted to be Federal Citizens (civil rights only please); good corporate employees.

Unfortunately, no one within the District of Columbia (US), the federal zone, is allowed to own fire arms. It must be noted, that the district of Columbia has the highest entitlements (federal benefits paid out) and the highest crime rate, when compared to the 50 union states by population.

Keep your kids out of public school and away from the TV. Teach your children to own and bare arms and how to safely use them, maintain them and to hunt with them. Teach your children that anything associated with the name US, is a corporation; NEVER swear your allegiance to a corporation (not even if it looks cool children).

Now this child who brought his knife to school; unless he signed a contract with the corporation saying he wouldn't bring a knife to school, then there is nothing that was done wrong. Note, that no one may enter the child into a contract! So, the child has done no wrong, even if someone within the corporate school system has decide to make a knife policy (code of conduct). The child (that constitutional national) can only be in the wrong if he injured another or did damage to property, at which point there would need to be on the record a verified compliant by the injured party.
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:thumbup: problem solved
 
Atmosphere said:
I work at a public school, and for the second time in as many years, a younger kid is in trouble for foolish actions with a knife.

In neither case did the student actually make any threats or hurt anyone, but the rules are pretty straightforward.

Railing against the unfairness of a no-knife policy will do little good, so please - if you have a kid in public school, talk to him or her about proper behavior.

Keep it at home, but if you forget, keep it in your locker and keep your mouth shut.
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Unfortunately, lockers can be searched by both school staff and LEOs, who are usually operating with dogs and doing drug searches at the request of said staff. Most schools have a "zero tolerance" (read:"zero common sense") policy concerning knives and anything else that can be considered a weapon. If the kid is on his way to school and realizes that he has a knife in his pocket, he should wrap it in a handkerchief, plastic bag, etc. and hide it off school property, such as in a wooded area, vacant lot, near the banks of a river, etc. He can retrieve it after school while on the way home. That is the only certain way to avoid trouble.
 
Schpankme said:
Teach your children that anything associated with the name US, is a corporation; NEVER swear your allegiance to a corporation (not even if it looks cool children)..
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Sorry but I have to say this here, I would hope plenty more here would agree. I would have no problem having my children swearing allegiance to the United States.

Schpankme said:
Now this child who brought his knife to school; unless he signed a contract with the corporation saying he wouldn't bring a knife to school, then there is nothing that was done wrong.
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To say a child did nothing wrong because he did or did not sign a "contract" is rediculous. My children have rules, they are expected to obey them. Rules are in place for a reason. Some rules may not be appreciated by everyone, but that doesn't mean you don't need to obey them.
 
There are much more deadly objects in the classroom then a pocket knife.

That being said, discreetness goes a long way. Especially here in NYC. I just got a Mnandi that I'm swapping out for EDC in the city, but previously I carried my Umnumzaan. Never had an issue, but then again I'm not pulling the thing out ever five minutes to pick my nails. :rolleyes:
 
concerning the whole thing about the "school contract", going threw elementary school in the 90s we had a county wide "School Code of Conduct" that we the student and our guardian MUST be signed by, or else you would be removed.

a few years into the future, i think 10th, 11th grade I sat down in first period and CLUNK everyone looked at me, my heart felt like it stopped, and then someone asked, what was that? i said change as i began to start on work unusually early
 
jaymeister99 said:
Sorry but I have to say this here, I would hope plenty more here would agree. I would have no problem having my children swearing allegiance to the United States.



To say a child did nothing wrong because he did or did not sign a "contract" is rediculous. My children have rules, they are expected to obey them. Rules are in place for a reason. Some rules may not be appreciated by everyone, but that doesn't mean you don't need to obey them.
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while i'm definately with ya on the pledge of allegiance, i can actually see where he's coming from on the "contract". try lookin at it like this - i don't believe (not sure) my state (FL) has any LAW against having a pocket knife on school property. i KNOW my state doesn't have a law against children carrying pocket knives. so.... if a child did carry a pocket knife at school, he is only violating their POLICY. similar to the convenience store clerk who carries a pistol (on their permit) against their employers rules. in FL, they have broken no laws.

my wife and i still argue (occassionally) about whether or not our kid will go to school. she's starting to realize i'm not giving in on this one, though, it just AINT gonna happen.
 
I know that my county has it's students sign a "Student Responsibilities and Rights" sheet that says they'll abide by all their rules. The "weapons" part is on page 25:

http://www.fcps.edu/IrvingMS/student/misc documents/SR&R Booklet.pdf

They basically say don't carry anything that VA says is non-concealable, and no airsoft guns, pepper spray, tasers of stun guns. And then at the bottom of the page in the physical booklet there's a little asterisk that says "Also, the three inch school property rule doesn't apply to you. You have no right to knives." (That was paraphrased a wee bit).

I left a small folder in my pocket once too. When I found out, I just left it in there and didn't say a thing. I think I see a trend here...
 
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