permanently poisonous blade?

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DGG said:
No it's true!

I saw a "poisoned" knife in the James Bond movie "From Russia With Love".

There was this crotchety old Russian lady who had a knife in her shoe toe that was coated with cyanide and if she kicked you, you were history!!
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Not quite. If you read the book, it's a hypodermic syringe filled with a cyanide solution.
 
Andrew Taylor said:
The stuff the indians dip their arrows in is curari. Not forge proof of course, but what if the edge was porous, or you put a narrow slot down the side of the blade and dipped it?

Curari Meaning and Definition
(n.) A black resinoid extract prepared by the South American Indians from the bark of several species of Strychnos (S. toxifera, etc.). It sometimes has little effect when taken internally, but is quickly fatal when introduced into the blood, and used by the Indians as an arrow poison.
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Your definition of curari is noted. So can you define the poison used by some of the other South American Indians that is derived from certain frogs (maybe toads) found in their environment? Years ago one of my best anthropology professors did field research down there every summer for awhile. He taught us to make blowgun darts the way they did, and he explained in detail how they would skewer these little frogs crisscross fashion with sharp splinters, then warm them over a small fire to make them sweat the poison out of their backs, and finally they rolled the tips of their darts in that excretion. I suspect that was a neurotoxin of some sort, and it did the trick on small game they darted.

Sorry! I guess that constitutes hijacking the thread when I went off on that tangent.
 
A thing about tetanus, just because there is rust doesn't mean there's tenanus. The bacteria is found pretty much everywhere in outdoor, but it just happens that metal left outdoor also rusts, so there is this mis-association of rust and tetanus. If you leave a knife to rust in your drawer, there won't be any tetanus on it, at least no more than what it had before you left it.
 
Think about this for a second what if instead of thinking of it from a heat forging sample or method you used say a method where you ground the plants into a finished blade and you did so for an extended. Of time and at the end result the steels properties had changed or the irons property that changed due to the extensive exposure to the poisonous plant for instance as a non leathal, you were to add poison ivy to a blade that it already been forged everyday and you were to hammer that in over a time span of say 7 months would the poison ivy become an attribute of the steel would it cause itching when ground into the surface over that amount of time would it change the properties of the metal in question so that they took on properties of poison ivy you can heat it up but not to the point of forging which should be around 3000 degrees on average heated up to say 500 degrees and melt the plant into the steel instead of forging the steel itself most elements are put into steel while the forging is occurring what if you added the poisonous plant after the process was finished almost like a coding that just didn't leave
 
Sweet 13 year old thread

Edit: coincidental hike I just returned from... huge wall of poison oak in background!

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Have you been thinking about this for the past 12.5 yrs, with the thread bookmarked so you could reply? (Note the date of the post before yours);)
If not, I'm curious what you were searching that brought you here...

Regardless, welcome to the site. For future reference, dragging long dead threads out of the archives is generally frowned upon. (There's even a blurb in the rules about it)
 
churchlover said:
I was told by an Elderly Arab gentleman that they used to make poisonous blades by mixing leaves of poison plants with the metal or something like that but the result is a blade that is permanently poisonous that would kill during a war with the smallest wound as long as it hits the blood. I don't know what the process exactly was. I thought that the heat treatment would kill any chemicals in the leaves of the plant.

Have you heard of such blades.

Or is it like the myths about Damascus sword that cut the anvil that it was made on?
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o_O IMO , this is highly unlikely . Temporary poisons , yes . But anything permanently bonded into the metal ...nope . :p
 
churchlover said:
I was told by an Elderly Arab gentleman that they used to make poisonous blades by mixing leaves of poison plants with the metal or something like that but the result is a blade that is permanently poisonous that would kill during a war with the smallest wound as long as it hits the blood. I don't know what the process exactly was. I thought that the heat treatment would kill any chemicals in the leaves of the plant.

Have you heard of such blades.

Or is it like the myths about Damascus sword that cut the anvil that it was made on?
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Sounds legit to me.
 
churchlover said:
You reminded me of something,

The old man told me that the poison becomes stronger every time you sharpen the knife.

It is permanent
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You do realize that the most poisonous thing about a knife is it’s edge. Driving such into some one breaks the protective envelope of the skin and damaged internal organs, releasing toxins within the body. You don’t have to inject toxins into the organism, they are already present within the body and in the surrounding environment. You just need to create a wound cavity for the situation to play out.

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poisoned knives?
what about the creese
"...In former times, kris blades were said to be infused with poison during their forging, ensuring that any injury was fatal. The poison used to polish kris blade is calledwarangan.[26] The process of chemical coating was done by warangan or jamas(washing) the blade with acid and minerals that contains arsenic compounds..."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris

well, i m afraid of horribly rusty ones.
" Within the wound, C. tetani releases a neurotoxin known as tetanospasmin, which may be the second most powerful toxin after botulinum [source: Krasner]. It takes only a small amount of tetanospasmin, which causes tetanus's signature muscle contractions and spasms by affecting the nerves, to do the trick. Rust is not in and of itself a C. tetani carrier; rather, ...The crevices of the rust give the soil a place to hide, and the deep puncture wound gives the C. tetani a place to do its work. Any injury related to puncture is reason for concern, though, no matter how clean the piercing object seemed to be. That includes gunshot wounds and knife stabbings. But...don't shrug off surface injuries. Every injury, from sewing needle and gardening tool mishaps to animal bites and scratches, carries with it the potential for tetanus. ..."
https://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/rusty-nail-tetanus1.htm
if its anything to go by, it simply means
that all sharp objects have the potential
of causing death by poisoning (albeit a
slow one) without the need of intentionally dipping a bladed weapon with some
specially prepared poison formula :-)
 
bigsurbob said:
Sweet 13 year old thread

Edit: coincidental hike I just returned from... huge wall of poison oak in background!

5dNHJxx.jpg
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No need to poison your knife, man. The mere sight of the Spartan will inspire fear in the hearts of your enemies, and the thunderous clack of the Tri-Ad lock will rob them of bowel movement control.
 
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