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I have recently acquired this knights of Columbus sword and have been trying to research more about it so that I can date it and identify it. I cannot seem to find any other Knights of Columbus swords with the same identifiable markings or exact style. If someone could help identify it or point me in the right direction it would be much
 
Post pictures ( imgur.com ) and share a link or send it to me and I'll get it up. Any and all marks at the base if the blade either pictured, or fully described

If it is one with an eagle in flight on the pommel and K C and other devices on the guard center, it is the older, rarer find. The first two links should answer a lot of what you are wondering about. Reasearching the owner's name with best place it in time.
http://assembly3479.org/history-of-the-sword/
https://www.madeinchicagomuseum.com/single-post/t-c-gleason
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archi...ition-Knights-of-Columbus-sword/td-p/20460066

I would add that a great many folk immediately draw a conclusion as to what fraternity some of these swords belong to. The KoC swords are plentiful and the forms really only appear in those three types.

Cheers
GC
 
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Thank you for your reply. When I saw what you said, I checked that first link that you sent in your response. And I couldn’t find the sword on there. Very similar but still not there. So I took a flashlight to the sword and was able to find a “knights of Pythias” marking on it. I guess you people don’t always know what they’re selling you. I base my conclusion about it being knights of Columbus off of what the seller told me. But if you have a link to date this knights of Pythias sword, it would be much appreciated
 
With the Pythian swords, we are kind of playing a game of twenty questions. Pictures and exactitude will help.

Here you go
https://gunandswordcollector.com/product/american-fraternal-sword/

That and some time searching the organization might answer some of your questions.

The Pythian swords really bear little resemblance to the KOC swords, so you have some study to do. An image search for their swords might be helpful and again, the name etched on on the blade referring to the owner/knight can be the best way to date it and again, all marks/letters/makers/retailers name at the base of the blade.

I will say that the fraternal swords are plentiful to the point of dumpster fodder, where a good many are found. Researching the knight can turn up some pretty colorful individuals. While some do collect fraternal swords, condition is really everything. They can be an inexpensive decorator and start to antiquing but it is really kind of a niche interest and studying them your best value.

Good luck
GC

https://www.pythias.org/
https://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/knights_of_pythias.htm
 
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