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Rain Collection

Discussion in 'ESEE KNIVES' started by Captain Spaulding, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
    I have decided to install a garden and due to our water allowance I am going to feed the garden with recycled rain water. This will also double as an emergency water supply in the event that there is a problem with our neighborhood's water source (we live in a small mountain community so this may not be likely but it is definitely a possibility).

    Have any of you done this? If so please post up some pics of your handy work. I don't need info that is on the web as I have already spent hours reading all kinds of product info and tutorials. I am more interested in what you all have found to be cost effective, practical, worthless and what creativity you have brought to bear on the problem.

    Thanks!:D
     
  2. raindog101

    raindog101

    Jan 22, 2007
    Careful how you proceed, Captain. Property owners in Colorado don't have the rights to the rain that falls on their land. That means technically no rainbarrels, no graywater recycling systems, not even diversion to gardens. Water must flow unimpeded across the land to the collecting waterways. Something to do with farmers and ranchers and their water rights. Although the law changed recently, so you might need to bone up on the particulars. I believe you can now collect your own rainwater if you live on property that is not serviced by your local water utility. Here's some light reading:
    http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/natres/06702.html
    http://www.rainwatercollecting.com/blog/2009/03/rainwater-collection-now-legal-for-some-colorado-residents/

    I live in CO as well, and was astounded to read of this asinine, archaic law. Hopefully this will be completely overturned in time, we are the only state that has this law. If you ask me if I have rainbarrels, I will tell you no, those are just really big flowerpots by my front door:D
     
  3. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
    Great info! I will check it out. That will likely not divert me from my plan. We have fairly harsh winters down here so it will have to be a system that I can disconnect for the winter. We are also coompletely fenced off so the nosey nellies next door can't see into "the compound".

    That is hilarious and sickening. That they expect home owners to buy a water collection permit for their roof run off. Found this too, jesus:

    http://water.state.co.us/DWRDocs/News/NewsArticles/Pages/RainwaterHarvesting.aspx
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2011
  4. whoever

    whoever

    27
    May 30, 2010
    Your communist overlords don't want you to keep your water in CO.
     
  5. raindog101

    raindog101

    Jan 22, 2007
    +1. Go for it. I think it's only enforced in the most extreme and obvious cases. Or if you have vengeful neighbors, or nosy county inspectors. I think most LEO's would laugh it off, as it seems a preposterous law on the surface. Just thought I'd warn you, in case of any police helicopter fly-bys:eek:
     
  6. JUST1MOR

    JUST1MOR

    Oct 19, 2010
    Raindog101, just about the time I think after 50+ years I have heard everything, something always comes up once again. I fully agree with you & Captain Spaulding, how long has the "law" been on the state/county/township/city/village books?? This has to have been something put into effect back in the 1800's before water systems became the norm.
    I'm surprised someone has not went after this to try and get an ammendment or at least changes ammended to it.
    Good luck to you both.
    Be safe.
     
  7. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
    I added some info to the above post that shows this is not just some oldie time bullshit law. They updated the info on the restrictions last year.

    Very odd for a state that is on the verge of passing no permit concealed carry and has medical marijuana on the books.
     
  8. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
  9. chavez556

    chavez556

    Jan 10, 2011
    Breakin the law breaking the law!!!! :jerkit: I would wait till someone said something that is a BS law no matter if you live in the city or rural! BTW people also speed, and smoke weed, and that's illegal :D
     
  10. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
    Weed is not illegal here, at least according to the state. :)
     
  11. tarditi

    tarditi

    825
    Mar 9, 2010
    I have a regular old 55-gallon rain barrel (would like to get more) - I use it to water the raised bed garden and fruit bushes. It's got a flex hose connected to the down spout, and there is a spigot near the bottom. It's raised on a couple blocks so I can get a bucket under the spigot.

    If I needed to use it for human consumption, I would still have to treat it - I've got a few methods to do that, and recommend you have a couple options yourself.
     
  12. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
    Which methods do you use for treating it as a drinking water barrel?
     
  13. Bushman5

    Bushman5

    Oct 31, 2007
    for a covert rain collection system one can simply put a larger downpipe OVER the existing downpipe, like a cover......while the original downpipe is rerouted inside the house into the basement collection barrels. ;)
     
  14. Captain Spaulding

    Captain Spaulding

    Apr 4, 2009
    A difficult proposition...as I have no basement. :)

    Purely external and totally closed off by fencing. Impossible to see from outside.
     
  15. Super X

    Super X

    717
    Sep 16, 2010
    I don't do it myself but, consider it a excellent idea. There is a wealth of information at Mother Earth News on collecting and storage of rainwater.
     
  16. sar5

    sar5

    798
    Jan 15, 2011
    I have two fifty five gallon plastic rain barrels attached to the two downspouts of the house. There are filters, mesh screens in the gutters ad well as over the top of the barrels where the water comes in. For human consumption I am leaning towards a big berkley
    Good luck with your project.:)
     
  17. tarditi

    tarditi

    825
    Mar 9, 2010
    I would only treat the barrel as a source of water in the event of a municipal water source interruption. If we're just hunkering down for a while, I would prefer to use stored, bottled water and a waterbob.

    Particulate filter, then use one of the following:
    * gravity-fed charcoal-activated filter
    * bleach
    * boil
    * MSR pump filter
    * aquamira
     
  18. foxx

    foxx

    Sep 5, 2010
    Make sure your roof material is not toxic, some shingles will poison you.
    Can you do an underground systern type container on your property? Divert rain water to that, let the rest flow off.
    Hidding barrles on the ground, and near the house might be a challenge. Garage? Build a fake chimney or a fake additon, could get expensive.
     
  19. tarditi

    tarditi

    825
    Mar 9, 2010
    Good point - at worst, drink only in the event that you'll die of dehydration (survival rule of "what kills you first"), at best, treat it like pond water, since it will certainly collect dirt, dust, pollen, bugs, and bird droppings, etc. that fall on your roof.
     
  20. ron_m80

    ron_m80 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 1, 2009
    Is that allowed? I thought Colorado was one of the states with the funyn water rights laws.

    EDIT: Nevermind, i see now it has been covered already. :(

    When you move to a state where water storage is legal :D, maybe you would like to try something like this.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2011

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