Recommend me a custom maker to produce my dream fighting knife

I do like Mr Jordan's personal style! Does anyone know if he has any experience making karambits or any other ring-handled blades?
 
BladeScout said:
Right.
Disregard everything I mentioned about degloving or the "dangers" and "risks" of the ring.
Do listen to the newbie expert, as Im no hardcore operator or knife fighter myself:rolleyes:;):p:D

Also:
WARNING! GRAPHIC!
Dont click the link prior to eating pasta e fagioli.
Not for faint of heart hence why I posted a link instead of a pic.
https://thenewsrep.com/106041/the-benefits-and-detriments-of-ringed-knives/
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No i didnt mean that at all. I really didnt mean that towards you. I didnt read your comment until after. I'm in no way saying degloving is not a real thing...nor saying it is not possible, I was just saying there are reasons for it, and it's not only because of the ring on the karambit, theres a lot more injuries or degloving from rings that dont have anything to with a karambit ring. I'm not going to be fixing my car, or rock climbing with my karambit deployed. Which are some reasons people get hurt like that. A lot is due to wedding rings and doing activities you should not be doing while wearing. Not saying to disregard because it can happen, and if it does happen because of the ring on your blade there is a good chance that it is because you were either holding it wrong or the ring was an improper sized ring .
 
rudukai13 said:
BladeScout, to answer some of your questions;

- The reverse curve of the Persian-style blade is intended to be used mostly for trapping, hence the serrated spine. I must admit the inspiration for the blade design is significantly influenced by the Al Mar Warrior, a relatively well known historical fighting knife intended to be similarly utilitized in a reverse grip.

- I wanted to go with dual rings on the handle for a couple reasons. The first, admittedly, is aesthetics - I've always liked the look of double ring-handled knives. Having two rings also means the handle remains relatively ergonomically consistent whether the blade is held in a forward or reverse grip. I'm certainly familiar with the risks associated with ring-handled knives, and accept the risk as a tradeoff for the additional control and retention provided.

No real set budget. I'm not looking for anything too flashy or fancy, just a well-made product that can actually be used for the intended defensive purpose if the need ever arises
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Keep lots of room in the rings for when you’re in an escalating fight and just punched your knuckle in on some dude’s jaw. Your fingers may be swelling if it is a real fight.

Also loose rings are less likely to deglove. Just don’t use it on someone ever and none of that will be an issue anyway.
 
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Lapedog said:
Keep lots of room in the rings for when you’re in an escalating fight and just punched your knuckle in on some dude’s jaw. Your fingers may be swelling if it is a real fight.

Also loose rings are less likely to deglove. Just don’t use it on someone ever and none of that will be an issue anyway.
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Exactly. All I was trying to say. Loose, not to loose. Definitely not tight either . Even if you look at brass knuckles, which the ring on a karambit can be used like (knuckle dusting) they are not tight on your finger. They have some space.
 
rudukai13 said:
I do like Mr Jordan's personal style! Does anyone know if he has any experience making karambits or any other ring-handled blades?
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I dont know if he has or not. He is pretty easy to contact by email. He seems the type to be up for a challenge if he never has, but I bet with his experience he could do it.
 
SavEdgeSurvive said:
I dont know if he has or not. He is pretty easy to contact by email. He seems the type to be up for a challenge if he never has, but I bet with his experience he could do it.
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I've sent an email to Andrew Jordan, will see what he thinks.

I do have a significant collection of karambits and know that a 1" finger ring inner diameter is just about the perfect size for my hands. Not too tight, not too loose, but easy to "ditch" and get my finger out of if the need arises
 
rudukai13 said:
I've sent an email to Andrew Jordan, will see what he thinks.

I do have a significant collection of karambits and know that a 1" finger ring inner diameter is just about the perfect size for my hands. Not too tight, not too loose, but easy to "ditch" and get my finger out of if the need arises
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Honestly this knife is cool but too big to be practical. Save some money and just get an Socp dagger reground to where it can cut. If you’re walking into situations where you need a knife like this that sounds like a bad strategy.

A little life planning will go alot longer than a huge knife when it comes to protecting you.
 
rudukai13 said:
I've sent an email to Andrew Jordan, will see what he thinks.

I do have a significant collection of karambits and know that a 1" finger ring inner diameter is just about the perfect size for my hands. Not too tight, not too loose, but easy to "ditch" and get my finger out of if the need arises
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Hope it works out for ya. Be cool if he said yes. Seeing what he does with steel in that design would be pretty awesome.
 
Lapedog said:
Honestly this knife is cool but too big to be practical. Save some money and just get an Socp dagger reground to where it can cut. If you’re walking into situations where you need a knife like this that sounds like a bad strategy.

A little life planning will go alot longer than a huge knife when it comes to protecting you.
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Yeah a little smaller package wouldnt be to bad of an idea either. Just constructive criticism. The karambit I usually carry has an OAL of 7 inches. Blade is 3" with the cutting edge of 2.5
 
SavEdgeSurvive said:
No i didnt mean that at all. I really didnt mean that towards you. I didnt read your comment until after. I'm in no way saying degloving is not a real thing...nor saying it is not possible, I was just saying there are reasons for it, and it's not only because of the ring on the karambit, theres a lot more injuries or degloving from rings that dont have anything to with a karambit ring. I'm not going to be fixing my car, or rock climbing with my karambit deployed. Which are some reasons people get hurt like that. A lot is due to wedding rings and doing activities you should not be doing while wearing. Not saying to disregard because it can happen, and if it does happen because of the ring on your blade there is a good chance that it is because you were either holding it wrong or the ring was an improper sized ring .
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Okay, got ya. No problemo and no harm no foul:thumbsup:
As for the rest of your post; yes, the article in the link agrees with several of your points.
I must admit, that I became less keen on a ring knife after learning of the issue of 'degloving' a while ago. Then again, I only ever wanted a ring knife for the ease of extracting the knife from a pocket or belt sheath (and then using it for mundane tasks - not with SD in mind).

On top of that, there are the legalities of a ring knife. Even though I wouldnt want one to use for the purpose of SD, the ring might not fly in all jurisdictions.
 
BladeScout said:
Okay, got ya. No problemo and no harm no foul:thumbsup:
As for the rest of your post; yes, the article in the link agrees with several of your points.
I must admit, that I became less keen on a ring knife after learning of the issue of 'degloving' a while ago. Then again, I only ever wanted a ring knife for the ease of extracting the knife from a pocket or belt sheath (and then using it for mundane tasks - not with SD in mind).

On top of that, there are the legalities of a ring knife. Even though I wouldnt want one to use for the purpose of SD, the ring might not fly in all jurisdictions.
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Once rings start showing up on knives many people recognize that as a dedicated fighting knife and even though there is some acceptance for carrying guns particularly concealed in the states most people in your life won’t appreciate you carrying a dedicated fighting knife around.

Just being honest. It is a badass thing to do and there are other crazies like me who would be like “awesome let me see it!”
 
Lapedog said:
Honestly this knife is cool but too big to be practical. Save some money and just get an Socp dagger reground to where it can cut. If you’re walking into situations where you need a knife like this that sounds like a bad strategy.

A little life planning will go alot longer than a huge knife when it comes to protecting you.
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I have many, many other more practical knives (karambits included) for EDC. This is just more of an endeavor in seeing my idea brought to life. Of course it's not practical for carrying around daily, that's not the point or the intended purpose.

I'm sure many people on these forums have a number of knives that aren't at all practical or ever carried, but because they admire the design/maker/purpose of the knife
 
Lapedog said:
Once rings start showing up on knives many people recognize that as a dedicated fighting knife and even though there is some acceptance for carrying guns particularly concealed in the states most people in your life won’t appreciate you carrying a dedicated fighting knife around.

Just being honest. It is a badass thing to do and there are other crazies like me who would be like “awesome let me see it!”
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As I mentioned, I dont want to carry a ring knife for SD.
Im not keen on getting a ring knife but when I contemplated one, it was for mundane tasks and ease of extraction from a sheath.
Also for hunting, it sort of made sense to be able to still have the knife momentarily hanging from a finger whilst dealing with some non-knife related issue when skinning.
But as others have pointed out, that might be inviting problems.
Both the degloving issue and the legalities of it made me rethink getting a ring knife
 
Also, once this design gets made, I very well may design a companion blade in a similar style that is smaller and more practical for EDC.

This particular one is specifically intended, as I've heard another collector on another forum term them, as "a Big F***ing Knife for the purpose of being a BFK" ;)
 
rudukai13 said:
I have many, many other more practical knives (karambits included) for EDC. This is just more of an endeavor in seeing my idea brought to life. Of course it's not practical for carrying around daily, that's not the point or the intended purpose.

I'm sure many people on these forums have a number of knives that aren't at all practical or ever carried, but because they admire the design/maker/purpose of the knife
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As long as its all in good fun then why not have the sickest blade? Isn’t that why we are all here?
 
BladeScout said:
As I mentioned, I dont want to carry a ring knife for SD.
Im not keen on getting a ring knife but when I contemplated one, it was for mundane tasks and ease of extraction from a sheath.
Also for hunting, it sort of made sense to be able to still have the knife momentarily hanging from a finger whilst dealing with some non-knife related issue when skinning.
But as others have pointed out, that might be inviting problems.
Both the degloving issue and the legalities of it made me rethink getting a ring knife
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It’s no issue just get a big enough ring.

Or maybe just attatch a wrist lanyard so the knife can hang without having to put it down in the dirt.
 
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