How To Remove stripped screw without dremel?

kylemiller said:
Harbor Freight has rotary tools like a dremel for as little as $10 a set. Not good for much, but it will slot a screw.
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I agree, i would just buy one of these, or a dremel. they come in handy a lot! well worth the money. you could even pick up a used dremel for cheap to.
 
kylemiller said:
Harbor Freight has rotary tools like a dremel for as little as $10 a set. Not good for much, but it will slot a screw.
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Is it labeled as a dremel? I had no idea they had them that cheap. But I’m not sure they have a wheel small enough to not touch the scales
 
NorthernSouthpaw said:
I've done it with a drill. Last week actually. Used plain Dewalt drill bits. I drilled the head off. Then removed the scale. Unscrewed the rest of the screw with a pair of needle nose pliers. I just had to make sure the drill bit was the same, or a touch larger than the diameter of the threaded part of the screw since you don't want to make the scale hole any bigger.
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This. Old style, never fails.

That being said, T10 is pretty large, the Pivot of your Shaman, and Colorado screws are pretty tough. There is a reason you stripped it, loktite, screw misalignment, etc. You might not get the screw out with pliers, even if the head and scale are gone. You can also remove the other side of your Shaman, and heat the pivot, if it's loktite related.
 
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John_94 said:
Is it labeled as a dremel? I had no idea they had them that cheap. But I’m not sure they have a wheel small enough to not touch the scales
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Well it's just a motor that spins a chuck. If none of the cutting wheels it comes with are small enough you could order anyone meant for a Dremel branded rotary tool. It's kinda become the "Kleenex" of small rotary tools. But that's all it is. There are dozens of companies making the same tool that take the same accessories.
 
John_94 said:
That sounds like it would work. Do you remember the bit size?
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5/64 size bit, BUT It was on a T6 screw.
check the size of the other empty T10 spots on the knife that you were able to unscrew. If the bit can fit through the scale hole but not the threaded liner hole it should work.
 
If it is red Loctited in there, you may need to heat the screw with the tip of a soldering iron and then quickly drill it with a left handed bit running counter clockwise before it cools. You will be trying to get the drill to snag the screw head rather than cutting it off.
 
Blues Bender said:
Remove all of the screws except the stripped one. Once you have just the scale attached to the liner with the stripped screw, spin the scale counterclockwise. May have to tug on the scale a bit to get it to grab. :thumbsup:
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I’m still new and not 100% sure how to include pictures, but the pivot screw is stuck in the liner and scale, but also stuck inside
Of the piece that looks like a barrel spacer which the blade rotates on, so I don’t have access to the screw on the opposing side. It’s a dilemma. If anyone knows how to include pictures on here I’d be happy to include one. The attach image function on this website (on iPhone at least) doesn’t actually work for some reason.
 
tiguy7 said:
If it is red Loctited in there, you may need to heat the screw with the tip of a soldering iron and then quickly drill it with a left handed bit running counter clockwise before it cools. You will be trying to get the drill to snag the screw head rather than cutting it off.
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I’m pretty sure Spyderco uses blue loctite. It’s a relatively newer shaman so I don’t think it would have red in there. Although I did try to heat the nail initially. I think that may have softened the steel of the screw head allowing it to strip in the first place...correct me if I’m wrong that’s just a guess!
 
The temperature at at which set glue softens is much lower than the temperature at which steel softens. I have run into red Loctite on Spyderco fasteners. I can’t comment on the Shaman.
 
tiguy7 said:
The temperature at at which set glue softens is much lower than the temperature at which steel softens. I have run into red Loctite on Spyderco fasteners. I can’t comment on the Shaman.
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True, but I didn’t know what temperature I had it at since I heated the nail in a real redneck way lol.

But this leads me to my next issue. I lost a washer to said shaman and spydercos CS said they can’t send me “internal parts”. But they said I can send my knife in and pay a $20 maintenance fee along with $5 for shipping which just sounds crazy. I’m mainly on instagram and asked the community there with no luck.

so I was wondering if you or ANYONE knows how or where I can get a replacement without spending $25..
 
Screws are pretty cheap, but you need to specify the length, diameter, thread pitch, head type, tool hook up type, material, finish, etc. Washers are cheap also, but you need to specify inside and outside diameter, thickness, and material.
If you need to extract a broken screw also, you now have 3 problems. If you can’t adequately describe the parts you need or get the old screw out, maybe sending the knife in is a good option.
 
tiguy7 said:
Screws are pretty cheap, but you need to specify the length, diameter, thread pitch, head type, tool hook up type, material, finish, etc. Washers are cheap also, but you need to specify inside and outside diameter, thickness, and material.
If you need to extract a broken screw also, you now have 3 problems. If you can’t adequately describe the parts you need or get the old screw out, maybe sending the knife in is a good option.
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Dang. I’m not sure how to measure the screw or washer. I’ll try to see if it’s mentioned under specs
 
When I've replaced hardware or any "internal" parts due to need or desire, the first step I took was taking the knife apart. Measuring these parts after that is very straightforward and the only way to find suitable replacements.. This type of information is not given by the company.

I got my set of small EZ outs at Fry's. Found the receipt last night at work while cleaning up in preparation for a move to a new floor. I bought them in 2009!
 
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John_94 said:
Dang. I’m not sure how to measure the screw or washer. I’ll try to see if it’s mentioned under specs
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To measure the lengths, diameters, thicknesses, etc., you can use a dial or digital caliper. To measure thread pitch, you need a thread comb or a plate with tapped and labeled holes. The tool needed to install the screw is determined by testing with various sized tools (#5 or #6 TORX). This information is part of the screw's description (slotted, cross recess, hex recess, square recess, etc.).
The chart shows dimensions for smaller screws. The 1st column is nominal size (0,1,2,3,4,5 is US wire gauge). BA is a British standard. Column #2 is diameter in decimal inches. Columns 1-3 are threads per inch for coarse, fine, and special threads. The rest are standards for British and metric screws. The numbers are not whole because those systems measure millimeters per thread which I converted to threads/ inch.
Here are some of the head shapes which are also part of the screw's description.
 
ferider said:
BTW, OP, any chance this is the same knife ? https://bladeforums.com/threads/spyderco-shaman-red-loctite.1723124

If yes, why a new thread ?
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JDX was an very old account. I used it more when I was younger and would be a bit more rambunctious and then I came back to this site for help and people were judging me based on how I responded in the past which was frustrating so I wanted a fresh start. Like people were going to posts from over a year ago and basing their opinions of me off of that. So I ditched that account and now just looking for actual help.

but the pivot screw that’s stripped it stuck in the stop pin so I can’t access it from the threaded side. But besides the pivot, do you know where I can get a washer? Spyderco CS said they can’t ship international parts
 
John_94 said:
but the pivot screw that’s stripped it stuck in the stop pin so I can’t access it from the threaded side. But besides the pivot, do you know where I can get a washer? Spyderco CS said they can’t ship international parts
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There are various sources for washers. Can you measure the size of the other one ? (i'd do it myself, but don't have a Shaman apart for now). We need ID (measure the Pivot), thickness and OD (less important).
 
ferider said:
There are various sources for washers. Can you measure the size of the other one ? (i'd do it myself, but don't have a Shaman apart for now). We need ID (measure the Pivot), thickness and OD (less important).
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Unfortunately I don’t have a vernier caliper or a digital one and I would feel wasteful buying something for a one time ordeal. Just eyeballing it though, it looks the same as a Pm2 washer which is .197 x .428 x .01 which is stated on reddit and I believe a post on here. But they do look identical. I doubt any differences would effect the function of the knife. But I could be naive to say that lol.

I’m just not sure if I should pay the twenty dollars plus five dollars shipping for the customer service to do “maintenance”. Like being stuck between a rock and a hard place
 
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