I put a wisemen ring on a Delica and disliked it. It made the handle ridiculously long, if I tried to use the knife with a finger in the ring there was an inch of handle between my hand and the blade. It was easier to draw, but I ended up taking it off and tossing it in a box. I've added rings to CS Tuffs and MIni Tuffs by simply drilling a small hole and attaching one with paracord, and it works quite well. If I wanted a built in ring, I would go with the CRKT Provoke, in the drop point since you don't like hawkbill. The handle is the right size to use the ring and the locking method is nice and solid. I have the hawkbill and would likely replace it with a Wharncliffe if they ever get around to producing it.