Sanrenmu 710= best budget folding knife right now?

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Puer Aeternus said:
Im surprised no ones mentioned the Utilitac by Joe Pardue $24.00.
I gotta say the Utilitac JPT-3 and JPT 4r [are decent knives for the money. I've got some pretty good knives in my collection and pretty cheap ones too...non of the cheap (sub $40 knives) come close to the quality of 2 Untilitac knives I own. You cant beat the price for what you get. Recommended if you want a cheap knife that has a tactical look and fairly dependable for all your letter opening/box cutting needs.
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I did! I'd walk over a crate of 710's, Tenascious', and 913P's for my Utilitac II. MUCH better steel, much better fit, and made by a country who's government doesn't hate us.


 
To the OP's original question. It's about a $12 knife. It isn't bad for light duty and very similar to the CRKT Drifter. That said it heeled in 8Cr13Mov steel. I've had both the 710 and Drifter ain't no way in heck they are better than a Tenacious, Rat2 or a few of the other folders mentioned.

BUT on that note, I have whittled green wood and feathered with the 710 and the Drifter just for fun. Both actually performed well for such a small knife. Neither edges chipped but ultimately did roll over a short time which is to be expected.For a very light use EDC, it's not bad. But it is kind meh and not something I would be showing off to a knife nut :) . The 8Cr13Mov performs as it should though. It's not my favorite steel but its not a bad budget steel for the money. I would choose a whole host of other knives that are maybe $5-$25 more expensive but still considered in the budget range over the 710 though just on looks alone and percs like better scales alone. The 710 is very sparse. PS It might be subjective but Spyderco's FFG blade shape really makes the most out of 8Cr13Mov in my humble opinion. Much better than the blade profile of the 710 and Drifter. The latter are very decent regular everyday no nonsense knives though. You could do worst than a 710 for certain.
 
Twindog said:
The price of these Chinese copies is truly amazing. Just $8, as someone posted, shipped from China, and delivered to your door. If you back out shipping, what's left? $5 for production costs?

How do you get the steel, grind it, heat treat it, hone a "razor sharp" edge on the blade, polish it, find the screws, pivot and handle materials, shape everything, assemble it, put it in a box, etc. All for $5 and still make a profit? The factory owners have to be exploiting someone to make this work.

Then, on an American knife enthusiasts forum, we hear from members that the "steal" and build quality is as good or better than Spyderco knives. Amazing.

But despite being amazed by the economics, I'm not buying any of it. I have a first-production Benchmade Rukus in my pocket. It's served me extremely well for years of hard use (I'm a homesteader), and it is still rock solid. I wouldn't trade it for a boxcar full of cheap Chinese knives no matter how cheap they are.

A well-made American knife is also amazing.
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This is the exact kind of thing that really doesn't have anything to do with knives, and is usually discouraged on the forum. A knife is good, or it isn't. Doesn't matter who made it or the patch of dirt the factory sits on. What always pops up is that too many knife nuts don't give a hoot about knives. What really is the motivation is the identity they want to project to the world, and the choice of knife is proof of their true blue dedicated knife nut identity. Even got the receipt to prove they paid in full to that American factory to enter that club.

When they can't fall back on objective arguments about how SRM is poor quality (because, well, they are not poor quality), they use bogus arguments, such as exploitation of "slave" labor (without any proof), or IP theft (typically when no actual IP theft occurs other than in the hurt feelings of some brand fans), or simply make unfounded claims that all Chinese knives are junk and I'll take my Jen-U-Wine-American-man-bauble-over-eleventy-million-Chinese-pot-metal-chunks-end-of-story-blahblahblah-I-can't-hear-you...

But when you get down to the nitty gritty, it has nothing to do with the actual knives themselves.
 
So...

You're saying that a Sebenza is no better than a SRM 710?!

Hmm. What about:

CPM S35VN vs. 8cr13mov
Titanium vs. random/pot metal steel
Optional custom graphics or plain Ti vs. weird shrimp thingy
Original design by an American company vs. a blatant knock off
Very good warranty vs. no warranty

Who wins, CRK or SRM?

Your choice. I think (I did) go with CRK
 
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It's ok to buy Sanremu as long as the Spyderco logo is on it me thinks...
 
spydercobenchmadekai said:
So...

You're saying that a Sebenza is no better than a SRM 710?!

Hmm. What about:

CPM S35VN vs. 8cr13mov
Titanium vs. random/pot metal steel
Optional custom graphics or plain Ti vs. weird shrimp thingy
Original design by an American company vs. a blatant knock off
Very good warranty vs. no warranty

Who wins, CRK or SRM?

Your choice. I think (I did) go with CRK.
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The weird shrimp thingy.......makes the thread. Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
 
But the flip side is you are still supporting the so called design thieves by buying the Chinese Spydercos.
 
Find one authentic SRM/Elan design, and then you've got a point. Otherwise, you are just praising counterfeits.

Heck, bronze is just as pretty and much cheaper than gold! And stainless steel is just as shiny as titanium, so why do we all care anyway?

Because they're different things! And praising knock offs is not a good thing to do in my book.
 
I'm not praising anything I'm very aware the Sanremu 710 is a Sebenza clone I'm just pointing out that one can't have their cake and eat it too. If you have issue with the Chinese 710 maybe you had better stay away from the Sanremu Spydies too.
 
I bought my Chinese Spydie before I knew about this. I won't buy anymore Chinese Spydercos--trust me.

Still though, at least their design is authentic...
 
It's cool man I own a Chinese kershaw and its a really well made knife. If I had this 25 years ago I'd have been blown away. I like all kinds of stuff but design copy is a bummer and I'd probably choose not to buy a Chinese 710.
 
The SanRenMu is a $10 knife.......and a bargain....better bargain than some lunches I have paid for. $10 lunch makes poo....710 cuts open packages as good or better than any other $10 knife.

I gave them away as stocking stuffers to the men in my family for Christmas. And comparing to a CRK is just silly. :eek:
 
As far as I can tell the only person actually comparing the Sebenza and the SRM 710 except on the most superficial of things, looks, is spydercobenchmadekai.

No one who buys a SRM is doing so because they secretly want a Sebenza. No one who buys a Sebenza will go back at a later point and think, "darn, if I'd only bought that $8 knife from China."

The 710 is a budget small knife. That is all it is, and all it claims to be.

The rabid, frothing at the mouth fanboyism for CRK is quite embarrassing. Christopher Reeve has never lost a sale, nor will he ever, to Sanrenmu. He might have cause to be concerned by companies like Kevin John who make real copies of the Sebenza, but Sanrenmu, never.

Authentic Enlan design?
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Sanrenmu design?
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Both actually have a lot of designs that are their own without clear inspiration from other manufacturers.

Are they as good as a CRK Sebenza? Of course not.
Are they as good as a Tenacious, Byrd, or low end Buck? Quite possibly.
 
If you want to spread the "gospel of Sanrenmu and Enlan", that's fine.

The only reason that I compared it to the Sebbie is that several individuals said that it was not about which knives where better but about "bragging rights."

And yes, if you have a Sebenza, you have bragging rights. Why? Because of all the points I made above, not because of some "secret club."
 
As a musician i find the rabid hatred of copies by knife guys humorous, heck there are so many copies of musical gear that most of us own a good handful of copies made in cheapo countries.

I have a 710 and while its a fine little knife, the Enlan el-01 is about 10 times the knife for a couple bucks more. I would pick the 710 over the opinels though, blasphemous i know, because i like the lock far better on the 710.

And guys.........SRM 710s arent cutting into Sebenza sales at all, no one buys a 710 thinking they are getting a Sebenza. All the 710 is something somewhat similiar that can be had for cheap, no one thats in the market for Sebenza settles on a 710
 
I would own that POS if you paid me $10.:barf: My money isn't that tight to carry junk like that.
 
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