Sanrenmu

feels no different to a sebenza in hand

I have both the small Sebenza (Insingo variant) and the 710, and the Sebenza's handle is just a bit longer, which makes it noticeably more comfortable in my mid-sized hand.

Anyway, indeed the 710 is a very convincing knife for the price. I already gave a few as birthday presents, sneakily drawing people into the hobby :-)

From the other ones, the 763 is a particularly interesting EDC. I am happy with mine.

I have the prohunter clone. I don't condone knockoffs, but for the $10 I paid it was worth a try even if I didn't like the knife.

Well, my perception is that the Navy K615 actually is not a clone but rather the same knife as the Bladetech Prohunter Lite, which is made in China. It's not inconceivable and both knives look exactly the same.
 
I have very large hands so small sebenza and the 710 are pretty much 3 finger knives for me with how I use them...I just got used to it, and put thick short lanyards on them for additional grip.

Being a lefty I just get used to adapting in this hobby as a lot of knives are right orientated.
 
Thanks to you people here at BladeForums..... I'm hooked BIG TIME!
I currently have ALL folders, but should get a Mora Clipper from Santa (wife).
I consider myself pretty cheap as far as how much I spend on a knife, or almost anything else for that matter.
The one thing I try to avoid is "junk"....or low quality.
My small collection mainly consists of Spyderco, and ALL were purchased at the Factory Seconds sale. I figure that if I can get a Para Military, Cat, Chicago, Delica4, for about 1/3 the cost....Hey' Why not.
Now if someone or some place is selling a "FAKE" ...They will NOT get my business!
Recently I've been looking at the SRM710....cuz I figure, chances are - I will never own an actual Sebenza..... and NOW I'm very interested as well in the L05 and L06, along with the 728 and 939.

My question is.... What is a reputable yet cheap online source for these knives?
 
Ordered a whole bunch of SRM knives to practice my freehand sharpening. I've heard lots of good things about them and figured I'd give them a go since they're so reasonably priced.
 
Your right, STR ! I just ordered thre folders from SRM including a 710 and one withthe ball lock. Hope it's good !. I wonder how it it will be when China start using better blade material, like S30V or ZDP and titanium handles. Prices will probably be 1/4 the originals.Wow!!
 
My question is.... What is a reputable yet cheap online source for these knives?

I bought mine at Exduct.

FYI, while the 710 superficially resembles a small Sebenza (it's not a fake though), it does not feel the same in the hand. In any case it is indeed very convincing.
 
I bought mine at Exduct.

FYI, while the 710 superficially resembles a small Sebenza (it's not a fake though), it does not feel the same in the hand. In any case it is indeed very convincing.

beside the weight difference how do you conclude they dont feel the same? the ergos are almost identical.

Granted i've only handled other peoples sebbies, I just can't afford one atm :)
 
I bought mine at Exduct.

FYI, while the 710 superficially resembles a small Sebenza (it's not a fake though), it does not feel the same in the hand. In any case it is indeed very convincing.

Thanks Dagon, just checked out their site-they have a nice selection of SRM.
By the way.....Love your reviews on your youtube vids.
 
Now that's useful input. Can you tell us why? Or would that end up being trolling?

I each SRM thread you get the haters who have a formed opinion that they stick by, fair enough, not everyone will like them...but its best not to open the can of worms again. When the 710 first got popular it was insane how quickly arguments broke out. :)

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lets keep it closed :D
 
I bought a 710 a few months ago, and have used it everyday since. It is the folder I prefer to use these days. It isn't my main EDC, but I do use it almost everyday. :thumbup:
 
I each SRM thread you get the haters who have a formed opinion that they stick by, fair enough, not everyone will like them...but its best not to open the can of worms again. When the 710 first got popular it was insane how quickly arguments broke out. :)

This is precisely why I ask, since the comment was not particularly enlightening. Is there a real issue here, or the same tired stuff that's caused gnashing of teeth and rending of clothes?
 
One thing I find a bit funny about Sanrenmu is that the 710 is the one I don't really use. Everything is right with that model, size, shape, fit, finish, etc. And it clearly seems the most popular model. But it just doesn't click with me.

I own several SRMs, all different models. The ones I carry most are the small 401, and the odd modern slipjoint AOH02. The 401 is a small tip up carry framelock, with a mirror polished spearpoint blade, gold accented brushed stainless handles, and a delicate bird laser engraving. As small as it is, 2 9/16" closed, 1 7/8" blade, it flicks open easily and suits me well. The AOH02 looks like a modern one hand opening locking folder, but is a slipjoint, with a handsome filed gold colored backspring, orangy-gold mother of bowling ball scales, and action as smooth as a Victorinox, but more like a Slipit in design with a divot half-stop. This one goes in the pocket, as it won't accommodate a clip. Both of these are enhanced with a modest lanyard. And as with all SRM knives I've come across, the steel is great stuff.
 
beside the weight difference how do you conclude they dont feel the same? the ergos are almost identical.

Especially because of this: the handle of my small Sebenza Insingo (not sure about the "normal" Sebenzas) is just a bit longer than the SRM's handle, and for my medium sized hands it offers a better grip. On the SRM my pinky sits oddly at the end of the handle.
Furthermore, the fingerguard part of the handle just below the pivot feels relatively sharp on the SRM if you grab the knife hard there.
In addition, the clip position (tip down on SRM, tip up on Sebenza) makes for a somewhat different feel.
So does the roughed up area on the SRM handle, while the sandblasted Sebenza feels "chalky"
Two areas where I prefer SRM (has Dagon gone mad?) over the Sebenza is:
- slightly better jimping
- I like that the clip on the SRM covers the slit of the frame lock bar, it's more aesthetic to my eyes.
Of course the Sebenza is the precisely made workhorse, yet the 710 is remarkably convincing for its low low price.

By the way.....Love your reviews on your youtube vids.

Thanks for the kind words. I plan to review my SRMs in probably 3 videos.
 
The 710 comes in at least four, maybe five configurations. Some have camo finish of various patterns and colors, others are siliver or black. Some have lock cuts to thin the slab and bend the lock in different places. This is the part dished out in the slab which can be on the outside on some, while dished out on the inside on others depending on the model. Some have black blades or silver blades depending on the model. All come tip down carry as the only mode of carry for the pocket clip. (different from the Sebenza). All have shoulder stop pins. (different from the Sebenza which uses a screwed down type in a bigger diameter). All have two rear stand offs. (different from the Sebenza which has one) All are made of .100 + or - .002 stainless steel slab design for the body. (different from the Sebenza which is .125 + or - titanium) All use different size hardware than the Sebenza and the blade shape is not the same but only similar. Blade steel is different also although that should go without saying. In short there is not one bit of real similarity to the Sebenza and especially when you consider the price point these knives sell at.

Some will never get past the made in China issue. Thats fine. Far be it from me to care. What I do find interesting though is that some of these same people that hold the opinion they are crap due to made in China for one company do not seem to mind buying China made product from another company which may be offering products made for them by SRM. If people knew just how involved SRM was in making products for manufacturers we all are familiar with they'd probably be seriously shocked at just how much they are into. SRM makes knives for more than a handful of USA companies.
STR
 
Some will never get past the made in China issue. Thats fine. Far be it from me to care. What I do find interesting though is that some of these same people that hold the opinion they are crap due to made in China for one company do not seem to mind buying China made product from another company which may be offering products made for them by SRM. If people knew just how involved SRM was in making products for manufacturers we all are familiar with they'd probably be seriously shocked at just how much they are into. SRM makes knives for more than a handful of USA companies.
STR

Pretty tired of it, too. My cherry was popped on this issue long ago when I noticed (as a general contractor) that my DeWalt, Porter Cable, Makita, Hitachi, Milwaukee, Ridgid, Stanley, Bostitch, etc., were all made in China or thereabouts.

Knife guys seem to have this strange sense of upholding their international honor while looking at a monitor made in China, typing on a keyboard made in China, that goes through a computer made from Chinese components that is hooked up to a router/modem made in China.

They watch television on a Chinese television. May use silverware and plates made in China that hold food prepared in pans from China that was stirred with utensils made in China. They wear clothes (and boots and sneakers) made in China, Malaysia, Vietnam and other far off Asian countries. And they are probably eating foods that have foreign sources as well. When the take pictures of that new knife to show others, no doubt the phone or camera was made in China.

But don't let that knife be from there, though.

I find it odd, too, that no one gives a flip about those that support knives from Finland, Sweden, Italy, Gemany, South America and France. For the most part their knives are wholehearted supported and their purchase encouraged as great values. Some even lauded as "a poor man's XXXXX". And yet, the last time I looked at a map, none were actually on this continent, but still "overseas", taking manufacturing jobs from fine Americans.

But once the group mantra is established, it is easier to regurgitate it than to think the issues through. I think the stinger here is that that most of the Chinese knives mentioned on this forum seem to get great reviews, and applause for their value to price point. I am no so sure that a lot of guys just don't have hurt feelings.

I know I have. I received a nice Remington Sportsman model Stockman that was as well made and finished as any knife I have ever purchased in my previous 40+ years last year for Christmas. My niece paid something like $15 for it, and a matching peanut. The quality of both knives is embarrassingly good.

If the SRMs and their cousins are that good, I may be on board with them soon.

Robert
 
Hey I buy what I want and what I can afford and what I can't afford!. You don't like it don't look at the posts about knives made offshore etc.etc. keepem sharp

Exactly, buy what you like but keep in mind public forums call for public comments. ;) My apologies if you do not approve, regardless it matters little to me. Enjoy the knives.
 
I love the 4 SRM 710's I bought. Everyone locks up hard with comforting sound. I've stropped them until they're like scalpels and the pivots, with a drop of mineral oil are butter smooth.

I gave one to my brother, another to my son in law and kept 2 for myself. 1 in my office and the other in the coffee table by "my chair." LOVE 'EM :D
 
That's true, they are mostly Spyderco clones, even have copies of Al Mar and Bladetech.
I have the prohunter clone. I don't condone knockoffs, but for the $10 I paid it was worth a try even if I didn't like the knife.

you guys do know that sanrenmu and navy both are the outsourced companies for benchmade, spyderco, kershaw and crkt? right? a lot of the byrd/tenacious family knives are made in their shops
 
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