SIFU vs. Cold Steel Extra Large Voyager

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I have long been a fan of Cold Steel's products. So long, in fact, I bought and still have one of their early Urban Skinners with the leather sheath. Man, I am old.

Recently, I purchased an Extra Large Voyager Clip Point w/plain edge. I doubt this sparse review will be of great interest to many because this knife has been around for years and the SIFU is the very popular among those who crave larger knives.

Be that as it may, I was so impressed with this klnife, I thought I'd share my thoughts. In that I also have a SIFU Special Edition, I may even try to compare the two pieces. That might kick things up a notch or two.

Sharpness: The SIFU was sharper out of the box. This was a big surprise because CS has a reputation for out-of-the-box sharpness which I thought was second to none.

Blade Length: SIFU is one half inch longer.

Handle Comfort: SIFU wins by a hair due to the way in which the G-10 scales have been smoothed at the edges.

Handle Design: No question the SIFU's choil is a nice feature. However, I like the Navaja style of the Voyager grip too. The way it tapers at the butt is an aide to handling as is the slimness of the Voyager's grip. The Voyager's grip is made of Zytel, a combination of nylon and fiberglass I believe. The texture of the CS grip is much rougher than that of the older Voyagers or the SIFU. This makes for faster extraction from the pocket and better security in hand.

Clip Security and Design: Both the SIFU and Voyager clips offer tip up carry. Cold Steel's new black steel clip is wee but mighty. When Cold Steel announced the enhancements to their Voyage line would include a new steel clip, I was afraid they would use some cheap clip so they could say they had a detachable clip too. However, they came through, in my opinion. The clip is nicely curved and conforms with the contour of the handle. When clipped to my front jeans pocket, the butt of the knife just kind of "flows" out of the pocket. By this I mean, the butt of the knife doesn't jut abruptly out of my pocket. Because of the Navaja styling of the Voyager's handle and the curvature of the clip, it seems to be more concealed than my SIFU.

I respect the apparent thought Cold Steel put into designing this seemingly small component of their knife. Got a curved handle? Let's make a curved clip to match it. Makes sense to me.

Weight: Well, let me see. Which knife feels heavier. Clearly, the SIFU is the heavier piece. Voyager weighs 5 ounces. SIFU weighs 8 ounces on my trusty postage scale.

Lock Strength: I hope the SIFU is stronger. I do not test my knives by whacking them about. They cost too much. All I want them to do is function flawlessly and seperate material when required. I have no room in my life for things on which I cannot depend.

Care and Feeding: I believe the Voyager will get the nod here. For many years I have carried a 4 inch Voyager tanto plain edge. It is no longer pretty but it is as sharp a a strait razor, opens reliably, every time, and has been as strong as I need it to be. After years of service, there is no horizontal or verticle blade wobble. It is as tight as ever. There are no adjustments to be made. This is good because there are no screws to adjust. I am hopeful (and confident) the new 5 incher will provide the same reliable service.

Which to Carry?: I really like my SIFU and other REKAT knives. I must like them because I keep buying them. However, I will carry the 5 inch Voyager. Not only is it lighter in weight, it would cost less to replace if lost or was otherwise seperated from service. And as I said above, all I want from my knife is reliable fuction, reasonable strength, and a very sharp edge.

I hope this brief review is helpful.
 
I have one of the OLD Cold Steel Urban Hunters with the NICE leather boot/belt-clip sheath. NICE little combo.

As far as the 5 inch Clip-Point Voyager VS: the Sifu goes, they are both great large folders...(I have a 5 inch pain-edge Clip-Point Voyager). BUT, have you handled the Cold Steel Vaquero Grande (6 inch, fully serrated, "wavey" blade)? I have one, and THAT "folding sword" is a MONSTER of a knife!.
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Dann Fassnacht
Aberdeen, WA
glockman99@hotmail.com
ICQ# 53675663
 
Excellant, a comparison of my two favorite knives. History: I have carried a XL Clip point plain edge voyager for about 3 1/2 years (old style). Love it. For the $$$ can't find a better knife. Also have a El'vicaro grande cool, but I am not big fan of full serrated blade. Plus it is kinda thick in the handle. Have 2 Sifu's one black g-10 the other carbon fiber and a limited edition red g-10 on the way..I LOVE THESE KNIVES. However, the old voyager still hasn't been officially retired
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Yeah Baby. I love to hear about people that like Cold Steel. It wasn't too long ago that I thought my Voyager was all there was and all I needed. Times and my tastes have changed but I'm the loyal type, and my Voyager or GunsiteII still spend plenty of quality time in the right hand pocket.Glad to hear you liked the new clip. I always liked the plastic integrated one, and you know, I never lost a screw or bought any loctite.
 
Glad to hear someone besides me likes the old pocket clips. My molded one has never broke and always held the knife firm. Plus, I thought the older handles were much more comfortable.
 
I have not yet tried the Vaquero Grande. I am hoping CS will come out with a plain edge version as they have on the Lobo and Hombre. Like Centurian, I am not a fan of serrations. Regarding the old style pocket clips on Voyagers, I never had a bit of problem with them if I carried on my waistband, beneath my belt. However, I found the plastic clip did not provide sufficient security to carry in my jeans pocket.

Getting back to the Vaquero Grande, does anyone actually carry one of these monsters? If so, where? I find the SIFU and Extra Large Voyager to be at or very near the limit for convenient, practical carry.
 
Yes...I carry my CS Vaquero Grande MONSTER daily. It sits in one of my front pockets of my Levi Jeans. No problem, and no "sitting/bending" discomfort, as the location of the clip allows for a pretty high in-the-pocket carry.
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I also wish that Cold Steel would offer this knife with a non-serrated edge as an option. Although, I must say, keeping in mind the intended mission of this knife (defensive/offensive folder), serrations are a "good thing", as they might rip a larger wound-path than a plain edge.

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Dann Fassnacht
Aberdeen, WA
glockman99@hotmail.com
ICQ# 53675663
 
hi- i've got a gunsite 11 and a sifu spec edition, and IMHO the sifu is in a totally different league than the CS - it is just so much better its not really, IMHO, a fair comparison - if ya can carry it legally in your area i think it is the #1 tactical folder, bar none - just my .02 worth.....

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