Something like an OSS but w a bit more massive blade

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Hello, does anyone know of a knife similar to a Cold Steel OSS something 7.5-9” fully double edged, or nearly so, and very pointy, but that has a bit more mass in the blade?

Does not have to be a subhilt or a clip point shape, necessarily, could be a dagger so long as it is nice and pointy.

I carry daily OSS or a peace keeper 1, or a Al Mar Shadow, large. They are all wonderful and easy to carry, but looking for something similar but w just a bit more mass in the blade for cutting power.

I tried the black bear classic, which is heavier, but basically identical to the OSS, but all of that weight is n the handle, so it not worth the extra weight to carry, especially high iwb over the OSS

TaiPan, i have, but is not very pointy and not biggest fan of the handle, and again, most of weight is in handle w light hollow ground blade.

Love the shadow, seems the most perfect lightweight dagger, perfect handle, blade geometry that is pointy af and can take acute edge bevels, but the ideal knife would have a bit more cutting power

Only thing i can think of, which i am kicking myself for not having bought years ago is Entrek Ranger or Recon.

ETA: ended up getting this Begg Large Filoso, or one similar, in dark gray. Really has that slight heft, compared to the OSS.
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JohnSmithy said:
I tried the black bear classic, which is heavier, but almost all of that weight is n the handle, so it not worth the extra weight.
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IMO , the BBC is very well designed, built and balanced perfectly for its purpose , i.e. fighting . :cool:

Wasn't meant to be a heavy chopper or a kukri , with weight forwards .

But , if it doesn't suit you , there's probably a similar design, with blade heavy balance . IDK ? :confused:
 
If you want cutting power for heavy material, get something that isn't double edged. Double edged knives will be lighter both because they have more material ground away and because they're primarily weapons that are specifically designed to be light in the hand.

There is one famous exception that's become a running joke on the forums to recommend for every situation. I'm half thinking that your question was just a way to set us up so we could recommend a smatchet.
 
DocJD said:
IMO , the BBC is very well designed, built and balanced perfectly for its purpose , i.e. fighting . :cool:

Wasn't meant to be a heavy chopper or a kukri , with weight forwards .

But , if it doesn't suit you , there's probably a similar design, with blade heavy balance . IDK ? :confused:
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Yes, thanks, i was impressed w the blk br clssc, and i understand the rational of daggers as having the center of bal more to the rear so the blade is like less likely to fall out of hand in combat. I just didnt see the benefit of carrying it over the lighter OSS.

I am not looking for a dueling knife, nor a utility chopper, just a dagger like blade of 12-14" OAL that has a smidge more cutting power than these very light hollow ground blades.

Again, the only other mostly double edge blade 9” or less that is not a really large toothpick type, or not a very light dagger type, that i can think of is the Entrek, which was of a 1/4” stock, iirc.

Ultimately, its NBD, so I can just keep carrying the 3 I listred, if I ever had to use it defensively, it would likely be a prison yard shiv situation, and id not be chopping and hacking anyway, jus looking for that extralbit to attain the ideal
 
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If you want cutting power for heavy material, get something that isn't double edged. Double edged knives will be lighter both because they have more material ground away and because they're primarily weapons that are specifically designed to be light in the hand.

There is one famous exception that's become a running joke on the forums to recommend for every situation. I'm half thinking that your question was just a way to set us up so we could recommend a smatchet.
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Lol
 
KenHash said:
You can buy a CS Trail Master and ask Josh at REK to sharpen the swedge. You;ll definitely get more heft in the blade.
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Well, perhaps, pr perhaps a recon scout sharpened as you say, as the TM is probably just too heavy and not really dbl edged.

I will say that my Laredo swedge came sharp af, somehow sharper than the main edge, lol
 
Literally a smatchet this time.

Cold steel do a cheaper Chinese ring dagger thing that I don't know rhe name of that might suit.

The shanghai shadow which you mentioned.
 
not so dull said:
Impressive. Perhaps more impressive than my OSS.
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I have the OSS, Black Bear Classic, and the OSI. This Tops blows them all away

Strange thing about all of the Cold Steel models above, none of them came very sharp which is strange because all my other Cold Steels are incredibly sharp. Maybe they decided these are more for stabbing so they didn’t need very sharp edges? 🤔. The TOPS however came shaving sharp right out of the box. Great sheath too
 
rlewpolar said:
I have the OSS, Black Bear Classic, and the OSI. This Tops blows them all away

Strange thing about all of the Cold Steel models above, none of them came very sharp which is strange because all my other Cold Steels are incredibly sharp. Maybe they decided these are more for stabbing so they didn’t need very sharp edges? 🤔. The TOPS however came shaving sharp right out of the box. Great sheath too
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Cold Steel QC has been spotty in the past, and is markedly worse since the buyout, especially with uneven grinds, and their fiberglass-reinforced nylon sheaths just suck. TOPS has excellent QC across the board since they actually make most of their knives, whereas Cold Steel has always contracted them out.
 
Cold steel recon scout in 3v has a sharpened swedge already. As does the trail master. The survivalist could be sharpened and it's inexpensive.
 
JohnSmithy said:
I am not looking for a dueling knife, nor a utility chopper, just a dagger like blade of 12-14" OAL that has a smidge more cutting power than these very light hollow ground blades.
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Can you be more specific as to what you consider "cutting power"? Power is energy transfer per time unit. You exclude chopping, which would be pretty much the only cutting task where power comes into play to my mind. So what exactly do you intend to use the knife for?
 
JohnSmithy said:
Well, perhaps, pr perhaps a recon scout sharpened as you say, as the TM is probably just too heavy and not really dbl edged.

I will say that my Laredo swedge came sharp af, somehow sharper than the main edge, lol
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No, it's not double edged. I only suggested it because you stated "something 7.5-9” fully double edged, or nearly so, and very pointy"
Double edged knives (daggers) by purpose don;t usually have "heft" and "cutting power". They are specifically "Fighters" in the true sense
of the word. There are some double edged or nearly so knives that have more "heft" than the OSS. Actually even the CS Black Bear Classic has
more heft. Good luck on your hunt.
 
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