Yeah, I do my bevel-setting and at least some refinement on bench stones or diamond hones. One of my favorite strategies lately, for both simple stainless like 420HC and more wear-resistant stuff like S30V, is to set the bevels with an XC or Coarse diamond hone to full apex. Then, apply a very, very minimal microbevel on the Sharpmaker with the corners of either the medium or fine ceramic rods. That tiny microbevel with the SM's ceramic rods does a nice job cleaning up the burr remnants and also narrows the apex a bit more. So, with that med/fine ceramic micro atop the XC/C diamond scratch pattern, it makes for a vicious slicing edge. Each complements the other - and that's what I think is the best aspect of using the SM. It's a very good enhancement tool, used very minimally. For cleaning up edges, my SM replaces any need for stropping after sharpening, most of the time.