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Swanddri bushshirt

Im going to check out the mosgiel extreme shirt. Rain i can deal with but cold wind that sucks the heat from your bones is a killer for me. I had a few times when i had hyperthrmia(sp) from cold wind that would blow thru the jacket and all the layers i had on.. Garbage bag can be a life saver if you use it as a top layer.

Sasha
 
Thanks for bringing this up while on sale and free shipping.

Checked out the website and cracked up when I saw...

"We have to make a good garment" "Most of our customers have guns"
 
TedPalmer said:
act fast, direct from swanndri as there is free shipping for 1 more day. Shipping from NZ is high. There is also a huge sale right now, up to 70% off. I just had a very nice vest and a ranger shirt show up today fedX. I already have two bushshirts and another ranger shirt. Love this stuff here in wet western Oregon. The bushshirts are a little oversize which is nice. The older ones are smaller than the current ones if ya find one on e-bay or some where. I have a pull over bush shirt that is about 15 years old and it is marked a 2xl but is about a todays xl. I love all the ones I have!!
Ted
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I know.:D
Jozsef
 
baldtaco-II said:
there comes a point at which one really needs to trade up for some proper performance wear from the sports department.
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I have to totally disagree with this.

Everything has its virtues, and its limitations. It is important to understand those limitations. While wool is great, it is not a freaking rain suit. Get a thin overlayer for those type of conditions. You are comparing apples to oranges there.

There is plenty of peddling high performance sports wear going on too. I personally do not buy into all the hype around gore tex either. While it is breatheable, the rate at which it can expel moisture is NOT even close to the rate your body produces it. Therefore, it nowhere near justifies the cost and proper venting is the real key there.

My only point is, there is no ONE solution. You need to understand what your stuff can and can't do.

For example. I wear wool all the time in freezing temps. No worry about rain. In fact, if it can rain, it is almost too warm for most wool, IMO. However, if it is going to rain, an appropriate thin outerlayer turns that wool into a terrific mid layer. No need to disregard it as an option all together!
 
How does it work with the currency converstion of US dollors to AZ dollors when you order the shirt???
 
Brian Andrews said:
My only point is, there is no ONE solution. You need to understand what your stuff can and can't do.

For example. I wear wool all the time in freezing temps. No worry about rain. In fact, if it can rain, it is almost too warm for most wool, IMO. However, if it is going to rain, an appropriate thin outerlayer turns that wool into a terrific mid layer. No need to disregard it as an option all together!
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Very well put Brian and I too agree. Wool is outstanding for a lot of situations, but not all. As you said, it's not always the right choice for rain...sure it will insulate when wet, but the weight increases significantly and it takes for ever to dry. You have to find the right balance. I like wool when I'm hunting and when I'm around an open fire...if it's raining, wool won't be my outer shell!

ROCK6
 
link to currency conversion:
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/currency/convert?amt=1&to=USD&from=AUD
the scenario on the extreme survival show was son and father caught out in a spring blizzard. Mr. Mears was not implying the swanndri bushshirt was wrong or inadequate really, just that they let things get too far for how they were dressed. They actually had what they needed with them but let hypothermia set in and then could not think well enough to save themselves.
Swanndri has all the bushshirts available in fleece with breathable, wind resistant linings as well.
Mine works very well in the wind but I prefer wool when around Fire...
Ted
 
Props to TedPalmer for the heads up about free shipping from Swanndri -

My Ashhurst jersey is incoming! :thumbup:

It will be tested out on a 3 month long canoe trip from Yellowknife to Gjoa Haven this Summer, we'll let you know afterwards how their new gear handles in the wind and cold North of the treeline.
 
Chunk said:
Props to TedPalmer for the heads up about free shipping from Swanndri -

My Ashhurst jersey is incoming! :thumbup:

It will be tested out on a 3 month long canoe trip from Yellowknife to Gjoa Haven this Summer, we'll let you know afterwards how their new gear handles in the wind and cold North of the treeline.
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I also place my order earlier today.
Jozsef
 
Ted the Q i had was we place an order in NZ money So when we give our credit card # do they change it from US money so we actualy end up paying $114 US or 199 US.
 
I use paypal one time use credit cards when I order on the net these days. they do the conversions and there is no fee for the service. If ya are a paypal user you can get their
plug in at no charge on their main page and it makes all this stuff easy. auto fill and all the other goodies included...
Ted
 
that would look great with one of those outside belts around it and a knife
 
Brian Andrews said:
I have to totally disagree with this.

Everything has its virtues, and its limitations. It is important to understand those limitations. While wool is great, it is not a freaking rain suit. Get a thin overlayer for those type of conditions. You are comparing apples to oranges there.

There is plenty of peddling high performance sports wear going on too. I personally do not buy into all the hype around gore tex either. While it is breatheable, the rate at which it can expel moisture is NOT even close to the rate your body produces it. Therefore, it nowhere near justifies the cost and proper venting is the real key there.

My only point is, there is no ONE solution. You need to understand what your stuff can and can't do.




For example. I wear wool all the time in freezing temps. No worry about rain. In fact, if it can rain, it is almost too warm for most wool, IMO. However, if it is going to rain, an appropriate thin outerlayer turns that wool into a terrific mid layer. No need to disregard it as an option all together!
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I don't understand your reasoning. You quote me as saying this “there comes a point at which one really needs to trade up for some proper performance wear from the sports department”, disagree with it, and then go on to say “everything has its virtues and limitations...” which is precisely what I said that you disagreed with. That is muddled.

I pointed out what I believed to be the virtues of the garment. I also pointed out limitations. I pointed out a limitation using an anecdote from a guru that is quite popular with some members here. True enough that shouldn't be used in isolation as that is nothing more than an appeal to authority. But there is the further clue that that the garment in question is insufficient because the makers had to go on to revise it by adding a waterproof and windproof liner. The latter being of direct relevance to sasha's question.

"You need to understand what your stuff can and can't do."

Is there any way I can help you understand the above more clearly?
 
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baldtaco-II said:
Is there any way I can help you understand the above more clearly?
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Well, let's try.

In your original post you did not seem like you accounted for the positive and negative aspects, and just threw wool away totally as an option.

baldtaco-II said:
As I see it they are builders wear. The virtue of them is they are tough, and that makes them good for Doozers .etc.
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To me, you are basically saying it is good for worksite use, but not for the woods. So, it is not a good woods option.

baldtaco-II said:
there comes a point at which one really needs to trade up for some proper performance wear from the sports department.
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Again, because of the words "trade up" and what I pointed out about your previous comment, it seems you are saying abondon one for another. I am saying no way. Know where one reaches its limitation and when you need to supplement it with something else. Whether you belive that is old school technology, or something fancy from the mountaineering store is not was is being debated.

Let me ask you this. If he had asked the for an opinion on mid-layer fleece pull-over, would you have directed him to gore-tex rain gear, because it obviously can't handle the "conditions."

Sorry, if I am taking you wrong. But you just made it sound like it has to be a "one or the other" situation. I have been and done many things (even this past winter) that I would be glad to share with you that wool FAR out performed almost all techno-gear, and for reasons you may not even thought of. I don't want to blabber on if you are not interested, but I would be glad to tell :thumbup:

B
 
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I'm a New Zealander and have a Bachelor of Forestry Science.

I have had a swanndri bush shirt like the one in the link since 1993 and spent many hours in the bush in wet and cold conditions. Most everyone that works in forestry or farming in NZ has a bush shirt like this.

http://www.swanndri.co.nz/default.aspx?T=2&P=4

I have found my bush shirt to be warm and waterproof for extended periods in light rain.

I'm 6foot and 200 pounds and mine is an XL - 106cms it is loose enough to wear layers underneath it if I needed to.

I haven't treated mine gently and have struggled through more than my share of blackberry bushes in it and it is still in excellent condition.

I heard that they made them ten times the size and then shrunk them in a hot dryer, and this accounts for the water proofing, could just be urban myth though
 
I love my Swannie stuff and wouldn't trade it for anything.

Of the pieces I've ordered over the years though I wear my Ranger or Ranger Extreme much more often than my bush shirt.

Throw a raincoat over it if you're gonna' get wet but otherwise it works great in all sorts of nasty weather.

B
 
I am lost. I want one of those shirts. The website says they are $199. Is that only $114 American? If so I will buy two of them right now.
 
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