Two new ideas from one old one.

Discussion in 'Hanson Knives' started by Scott Hanson, Nov 11, 2020.

  1. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    I had a bit of an epiphany, this is a photo of my personal hunting knife I've been using for the better part of twenty years now. I have field dressed quite a few deer over the years with it and every time I finished field dressing a deer I check the knife and it shows absolutely no signs of dulling, it's just as sharp as it was when it came off the strop. Funny thing about this knife and how it began was it was about 2001 or 2002 I don't recall anymore but it was when ATS-34 and 154cm were leading the pack in cutlery steels and I had just placed and order for some 0.187" thick 154cm and the sent me this 0.125" thick piece of s30v by mistake. Well not knowing anything about it I threw it on my metal rack and reordered the the correct 0.187" thick 154cm not thinking or knowing much about this s30v steel they sent me until one day a few months later I started reading really good things about it, so I decided too make some knives out of it. I soon discovered it ate belts like mad, but the customers raved about how well it held an edge, and for good reason after having used it along side other knife steeling seeing for my self the difference in edge retention. So any how I sold all but this one which was the runt of the litter a kept it for my personal user ever since.

    I have decide what I am going to do when I get caught up with my orders. I am, going to come out with two new models 1.) The "Personal" and 2.) The "Elite Hunter".

    The Personal will be a smaller 3-3.5" blade EDC or B & T type of knife.
    The Elite Hunter will be a a larger 4-5" blade all purpose hunting style knife.

    The thing about these now is they will be of the highest quality materials and workmanship I can provideI will be using CPM S45VN steel with a cryogenic quench for the blades and the highest quality stag, mammoth ivory and musk ox boss spacers I can find.

    These are photos of the first CPM S30V knives I made almost 20 years ago, and they are kind of the base idea going forward. The new knives will have the best American made steels with the best heat treating available coupled with the finest materials ad workmanship. They will be my very best work in looks and performance to date.

    All comments, feed back and ideas are welcome.

    The one on the lower left hand side is my personal knife.
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  2. Mack

    Mack Expert Ultracrepidarian Platinum Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    I love it. I was going to ask you what you used.
     
  3. 1066vik

    1066vik Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 28, 2009
    Good looking hunter.
    Will be interested to see the new designs.
    Any idea what price range might be?
     
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  4. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    Thanks Mack, I've been hearing really good things about the new CPM S45VN that Crucible just came out with, it's supposed to pretty much keep up with Elmax in edge retention, and be a bit tougher, closer to CPM S35VN in toughness. Both S30V and S35VN have been great steels, S35VN doesn't have quite the edge retention S30V does but it's quite a bit tougher and in real world use that is important. There will be another post on that later.
     
  5. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    There will be several new designs coming out I have been stocking up on some high quality Red stag, Sambar stag, and whitetail crowns. The prices may vary a bit depending on handle materials. Base price for the Personal would be about $300.00 and the base price for the Elite Hunter would be about $350.00 before options like exotic handle materials meaning Mammoth ivory and musk ox boss due to the fact that they are expensive to start with. Stag and tooled leather sheaths and everything else is included in the price.

    I'm going to try something a little different here kind of like Behring made build your own where you can pick what kind of spacer material. Choices would be something like Mammoth ivory, Musk ox boss, natural/brown/green canvas micarta or red paper micarta. You will be able to choose guard material nickel silver, brass, or copper.

    I have a couple goals here with this, I would like to have customer input and have the customer be interactive in the build process with thoughts and ideas. I would also like to build the most aesthetically pleasing knife coupled with the highest possible level performance. In other words classic looks with state of the art materials, kind of like putting a 1967 corvette body on a Lamborghini drive train, if it would fit.lol

    I will dig up some knife photos of what some of the new knives would like and post them here.
     
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  6. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    Okay, some photos of what some of the new models will look like. These first photos are about what a base knife with no added mammoth ivory or musk ox boss would look like. The spacer pattern combinations is endless. IMG_2318.jpeg IMG_3382.jpeg
     
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  7. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    These photos are some with Mammoth and Musk ox spacers, again the spacer combinations are almost endless. IMG_0507.jpeg IMG_0359.jpeg IMG_2883.jpeg

    Also note that a knife with a blade less than 4" long doesn't have a sheath long enough for the animal portrait there is just not enough room to fit it, so the other option is one like these or a rattle snake inlaid sheath can be made. IMG_3407.jpeg
     
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  8. Mack

    Mack Expert Ultracrepidarian Platinum Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    Any chance of seeing a fat bellied blade something like this?
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  9. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    Yes, I think we talked about this before I have a template at the shop I’ll dig and post a photo of. I’ll actually be heading to the shop tonight.
     
  10. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    Okay, I found that little pocket skinner template unfinished in my template drawer, so I cut it out and took a quick photo. It has a 3" blade but that could be easily stretched to 4" or more inches if needed.
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  11. Mack

    Mack Expert Ultracrepidarian Platinum Member

    Aug 19, 2007
    Perfect. Yeah, I'm sure we've talked about it but my memory ain't what it used to be.
     
  12. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    I knew I forgot something, I forgot post the actual size of the original knife. OAL is 7", blade length is 2 3/4" x 3/4", handle length is 4 1/4" long by 3/4" diameter, which realistically makes this knife a little too small as far as I am concerned for EDC and general field use. I have a medium large hand and it's just a little too small (diameter wise) to get a good firm grip on it. I think about 1" or so diameter handle 4 1/2" long with a 3" x 1" wide blade for the small Personal the larger Personal would be about the same with a 3 1/2" long blade. This is a photo of the knife along side a ruler to show actual size.
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  13. Redmeadow Knives

    Redmeadow Knives John Conner / lessismore Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 29, 2010
    Very exciting stuff Scott, I'd love to be able to get on your list for something like this.
     
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  14. Scott Hanson

    Scott Hanson Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 6, 2014
    Plenty of time John, I still have quite a few orders to fill for now. But if anyone one has any ideas they want to share here is the place.
     
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  15. Redmeadow Knives

    Redmeadow Knives John Conner / lessismore Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 29, 2010
    Sounds good, I have the patience of Job my friend!
     
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