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Vallotton Lil' Sub-Hilt

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by Sharperthansticks, May 20, 2019.

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  1. Sharperthansticks

    Sharperthansticks Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 19, 2017
    Why did they make this knife so thick?? It would have been perfect if it was thinner. But now it's unnecessarily heavy (I feel like I could do arm curls with this thing), and all of that back weight throws off the balance, too. This knife could have been stellar. I'm kind of disappointed. (Just received my knife today.)
     
  2. 4mer_FMF

    4mer_FMF Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    Well, I’m not one to cast stones, but I will say I’m glad I was able to fondle a full size Sub-Hilt prior to making a purchase. The build quality was exceptional, but the thickness put me off too.

    @Sharperthansticks, I heartily recommend the Hungarian if you can find one. Luscious polished G10 and bolsters in a much more practical package. Similar build quality. IMO its one of Spyderco’s best ever and terribly under rated. Dang, I may have to start trolling for a backup!
     
  3. Sharperthansticks

    Sharperthansticks Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 19, 2017
    Thanks for the recommendation. Some time ago I snagged a Hungarian off of the exchange, and I thought I'd love it. I seem to recall not having a comfortable place to put my thumb due to an oddly sharp rise in the frame right above the pivot. Just couldn't get comfortable with the knife, and I passed it along. That, too, was a disappointment.
     
  4. jpm2

    jpm2

    Nov 19, 2014
    That's pretty strong opinion for less than one day of use, if it was used at all.
     
  5. Sharperthansticks

    Sharperthansticks Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 19, 2017
    How long does it take you to figure out that a knife is heavy, thick, and unbalanced?
     
  6. jpm2

    jpm2

    Nov 19, 2014
    There’s been a few knives and other tools I thought similarity of until I used them a while.

    This might not be what happens in your case, but you’ll never really know for sure by immediately dismissing it.

    If this was your opinion after a few months of use, it would carry a lot more weight.
     
  7. Sharperthansticks

    Sharperthansticks Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 19, 2017
    I told people the things about the knife that you could tell instantly: it's very heavy for its blade length (5.5oz), it's chunky, and it's back-heavy and hence unbalanced. It does not take a few months of use to determine these things. I get the feeling that if I ordered a set of forks and got a set of spoons and said that the principal problem is that they lacked forkitude since there were no tines to pierce food, one or more people on here would call me hasty and tell me to use the spoons for a few months to really make sure they didn't function as forks and that my opinion did not yet carry weight on the matter.
     
  8. 4mer_FMF

    4mer_FMF Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    I guess it depends in how well balanced the spoons are, no?

    ((Sorry. I couldn't resist :p))
     
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  9. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    If I'm not mistaken the Lil Sub-Hilt handle has the same general dimensions as the full sized version, just shorter (of course).

    I've never handled a Lil Sub-Hilt but I have 2 full sized versions -- a manual and a DA Vallaton conversion. They have perfect balance/feel and the weight doesn't bother me. I consider them collector pieces and do not carry them but I would not have any problems doing so if that's what I wanted to do w/them.

    Any balance issues w/the Lil Sub-hilt are probably due to the shortness of the blade/handle as compared w/the full sized model.
     
  10. Daniel

    Daniel Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 3, 1998
    I really like the small one over the large one.

    I appreciate the thickness which allows for a better and more comfortable grip. I also had the large one and I did not really like it. I also appreciate the weight and the balance.

    They are both two of the best Spydercos in fit and finish that I have ever owned and I have had many of them!

    The nice thing about knives, if you don’t like one, there are many others to try!
     
  11. jpm2

    jpm2

    Nov 19, 2014
    You don't get at all what I wrote, and your analogy is retarded.

    Next time, try taking 10 minutes or so researching the specs you're complaining about, and save yourself a purchase.
     
    Last edited: May 22, 2019
  12. Sharperthansticks

    Sharperthansticks Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 19, 2017
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