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what is up with the sebenza?

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CODE 3:
For you longtime Sebbie owners, I'd like your take on CR's warranty policy, and have you experienced lock problems??? It is a hot topic on the CR forum (couple weeks ago, anyway) </font>

Mike, I think if you will read all those threads carefully, you will find that a little bit of sleuthing revealed that the owner of the migrating lock finally admitted he had personally bent the bar when he first got the knife.

In other words, a lot of hot air got blown around over what turned out to be none of CR's fault. Furthermore, the owner in question ended up very happy with what CR did for him -- basically renewing the entire knife for $100.
 
Every time that I have cheaped out on a purchase (not just knives), I have regretted it. I feel that I have wasted my hard earned money. I also end up having to buy twice, usually the second time I buy what I should have bought the first time, so I end up spending a lot more.

Every time I have bitten the bullet and paid for quality, I have enjoyed the quality LONG after I have forgotten the cost. If it's high quality, it's worth it, and that's that.

I am NOT going to buy a Sebenza. I want a Project first! Then, maybe later...

If you're worried about usage, buy 2. Come on, if you're going to spend that much, might as well!
 
Thanks, Esav.

I thought I smelled something fishy going on there! I had never heard of any of Chris' knives failing like that, so I did wonder.

Thanks for the clarification. I hope someone mopped the floor with the jerk who bent the lock.

Mike

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CODE 3:
Thanks, Esav.
Thanks for the clarification. I hope someone mopped the floor with the jerk who bent the lock.
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I'd like to defend that person and say that I believe his intentions were innocent and that that whole thread was, if nothing else, a learning experience. And what I learned is that there is no problem with the Sebenza lock or its warranty. I also learned that if you think there is something wrong with a Sebenza (in this case, the person thought the lockup was too tight or sticky and therefore bent the lock to loosen it up), send it back to CR and let them check it out. In fact, mine was pretty tight when I first got it but after a short "break in" period, it was just fine.

For liner locks and frame locks, the relationship between the tang and lock is critical. Mess with it at your own risk. You might improve a poor one but you could also make the problem worse. When I first started posting here, the big flame going on had to do with the failure of liner locks. The big offender was Microtech. The offense was big because Microtech knives are not cheap but a whole bunch of them were failing the spine whack test whereas many other cheaper knives were passing.

Also, apparently the way you grip some linerlocks can work against the lock and cause it to fail. The frame lock is apparently immune to this and therefore is seen as a technical improvement.

Anyway, this is just my interpretation. Others may disagree. Of course, they would be wrong.
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I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
Well, if you want a pic of some Sebs and Umfaans, here you go:

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Hope this helps, Walt
 
Walt,
wow, nice collection! I now have to clean up the drool on my keyboard.

I like the two top right knives. Sebenza gold coin model? Very very nice! How much do they go for?
 
I just have to add my 2 cents worth on this topic. I just bought a large Sebenza today based on all of the post I have read here. The good comments about this knife and the service behind this knife were the main reason for my purchase. However, finally getting to handle one pushed me over the edge. If you happen to be on the fence about buying one just find one to hold and feel, and if that doesn't make you want one nothing else will.
 
Gary777; actually the three top knives on the right are GCs. Since there is confusion, allow me to post a picture clarifying the situation (thinly disguised excuse for posting another picture):

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The top knife is a 1999 CA buckeye wood inlay with Devin Thomas ladder (?) Damascus. Below it, a 2000 Maple Burl wood inlay with DT bronze spirograph Damascus.

The three GC's are: top two 1998 Australian gold nuggets, the third is a 2000 Krugerrand, all with DT raindrop Damascus.

Price for the GC's is $775 last time I bought one. I actually picked up the top knife (06/12) as a refurbished knife for $675.

Let me know if I can be of further pictorial service.
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Walt
 
Please stop Walt. If you keep posting these pics you may just convince me that an ugly knife can be beautiful.

I can't take it anymore. I feel the evil influence of the Spock-like Sebenza mind-meld trying to work its poisonous tendrils into the fringes of my mind. Fortunately, I am immune to titanium.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paracelsus:
Fortunately, I am immune to titanium.
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I seem to recall that you had a problem with titanium knuts in another thread some time ago.
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I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
LMAO. I guess I asked for that Hoodoo, thanks!
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I should have said I have an allergic reaction to titanium. I'm trying to avoid it. Now, I am breaking out in a rash just thinking about how rash my claim to immunity was
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Ah, Paradenialofselfus; you forget that the Sebs are made of 6Al 4V titanium ALLOY; this has been shown to be non allergenic in knifeknuts with elemental titanium allergies.

You are seeing a gray slab; it fits into your hand; it feels good. The blade opens like the door of a 911, and closes just as well. You are falling into the pattern of the Damascus steel.....
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Walt Welch:
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Greed is good.

 
No no, Greed is VERY good
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A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
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Oooooooo Nice try Hoodoo, nearly made me use my Sebi! Fact is I am not ready for it yet... Also I do not trust the clip on it! Until I replace the clip with one of the new ones, I will not carry it. Strangly I am not in a rush to replace the clip, soooooo thats my excuse and I am sticking to it!
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W.A.

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"To strive to seek to find and not to yield"
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A few useful details on UK laws and some nice reviews!
http://members.aol.com/knivesuk/
Certified steel snob!
 
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