What Whisky/ Cognac?

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Looking for a couple drinks, something just to relax with friends and drink with ice, no shots or anything or mixing. I've been drinking a lot of rum and vodka lately, getting sick of it.
What do you recommend from the LCBO?
http://www.lcbo.com
Preferably < $50 for the Whiskey and <$100 for the Cognac. Something smooth would be nice. I know my budgets are pretty low, but I'm no connoisseur anyway.
 
$50 will get you ANY high end bourbon and many single malt scotches. $100 will also set you up real nice with cognac or armagnac. I can't really comment on the brandies and the malt that I like, Dahlwinnie, is probably over $50 nowadays, but for bourbon, here a short list
Weller Centennial....the Weller premium and "super premium" bourbons were a very well kept secret in Kentucky until about 10 or so years ago. For those of you familair with Weller, this one s the replacement for the "Old Weller" 107 proof that sed to come in the dark red velvet bag.
Makers Mark, especially if you can find the higher proof stuff with the gold wax...either way, this is a premium bourbon that, in it's regular 90 proof form with the red wax cap, is normally priced about like Jack Daniels regular black label.
any of the Weller special editions that come in a tall skinny bottle with a cork...the best bourbon that I have ever had was a bottle of 19 year old Weller. Unfortunately, I heard that it was a batch of barrels that they had "lost" or left sitting in the aging warehouse and it was only made for one year about 6 years ago. We have never been able to fid any even in Kentucky. The newer stuff is damn good though.
Basil Hayden...cheapest,lowest proof and arguably the best of the Jim Beam "super premiums"
Woodford Reserve.....best bargain of the "super premiums"
Bookers
Bakers
Knob Creek

Another very fine malt whisky that I would highly recommend is Redbreast, which is a super premium Irish sing;e malt that they just started importing a couple of years ago after being pestered by American tourists who visited the distillery after trying the stuff in Dublin. It is generally considered by the Dublin bartenders, etc, to be the best Irish hooch available.

Edit.....I looked at the price lists. Buy yourslf a bottle of regular Woodford Reserve and a bottle of 12 yr old Redbreast and be happy...lol
 
Oh, and please keep in mind that I am a newb with Whisky and Cognac. I don't know if I've ever tried Cognac, and I remember once in my life drinking Whiskey. Something with some taste/flavor, that is somewhat smooth and is nice under the rocks is what I'm looking for. I'm not sure if Whisky is like Vodka where there is a big difference between super cheap stuff and mid priced / high end stuff. I don't want to start with junk though.
I've gone through some Vodka's, I could not tell a huge difference between any of the half decent ones, sure, Smirnoff was ass, but between Stolichnaya or Grey Goose I found either was decent.
The spirit has to purchasable from the lcbo (http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/ProductResultsController ), they are the only place to legally buy alcohol in Ontario.. I know, Canada is an interesting place.
I was thinking of hennessy VS for cognac, but I don't know, I sure have heard that name quite a bit (not sure from where.)
Out of the ones you listed, I found these
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/ProductResultsController?ITEM_NAME=Woodford+Reserve&ITEM_NUMBER=
Also found bookers, but discontinued, could be hard to find.
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/ProductResultsController?ITEM_NAME=Bookers&ITEM_NUMBER=
Knob creek is available too
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/ProductResultsController?ITEM_NAME=knob+creek&ITEM_NUMBER=
And redbreast
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/ProductResultsController

Where can I learn about different types? Whiskey/Cognac seems to have a lot more varients then vodka, and depend on aging.
One interesting thing seems to be the fact the alcohol % changes between Whisky's. So if a premium one is 60%, can you expect it to be a rough drink?
 
Right about $50, The Balvenie 12-year-old Doublewood Scotch Whiskey. You will not be disappointed.

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http://www.balvenie.com/
 
Right about $50, The Balvenie 12-year-old Doublewood Scotch Whiskey. You will not be disappointed.

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http://www.balvenie.com/


Lcbo sells it.
I'm actually curious to try one that's higher alcohol %, lol. I'll be drinking a little bit to get slightly impaired in my thinking while just hanging out most likely. At the same time enjoying a drink would be a plus.
Doublewood smooth / go well with ice? I definitley won't be drinking it after dinner or with a cigar, as recommended by the LCBO LOL.
 
Excuse me, but NO singlemalt scotch goes on ice. No. Not done. A splash of tempid pure water sometimes. But please, no ice.


I apologize. Like I said, I'm a newb with whiskey, I've drunken Vodka and Rum most of my life.
What does go well with ICE?
Tempid pure water? Hmm??
I'm gonna go take a look at the wiki for whiskey, perhaps it'll explain different malts and stuff to me.
 
All this talk of Scotch got me thirsty. I'm having a nip of the Balvenie 21-year old Portwood right now. This is a bottle given to me for my birthday. Very nice.
 
All this talk of Scotch got me thirsty. I'm having a nip of the Balvenie 21-year old Portwood right now. This is a bottle given to me for my birthday. Very nice.


Have fun.
So what do you do with single malts if you don't drink them neat, or on the rocks. Do you add a splash of pure water like you said, or mix (doesn't seem like it'd make sense?)
I'm not a fan of mixing, I'd rather drink neat or on the rocks so I am curious. I guess a splash of water would be fine too (I guess pure water just means any bottled spring water?)
 

Eeek! No.

For fine single malt, one need only pour the malt into a tumbler or -- better yet -- a snifter, and then sit back and enjoy. Don't forget that at least half of the experience is in the nose. (if you find the alcohol flavor to pronounced, then this is when you carefully add a few drops of water to think the alcohol down and allow the malt flavors to come out.)

Start by looking at your whiskey. Admire its golden color, the way it glows in the glass, thw warmth of it.

Next, swirl it in the glass to release the aroma. Admire the "legs", the streaks formed on the side of the glass as the malt runs back to the bowl. The thinner the legs, the higher the proof which is how you can calibrate your addition of water. Allow your hand to gently warm the glass and the scotch just enough to further release those aromas.

Put your nose all the way into the glass and breath in deeply. Exhale through your mouth. Repeat several times to saturate the olfactories.

Now, sip just a sip. Roll it around on your tongue. Your tongue works in different regions, the tip, the sides, the middle, and the back. So, introduce the malt slowly through your mouth to each region and concentrate on what effect each has. While doing this, keep breathing in through the glass. 90% of taste is smell. Then, move the glass aside and concentrate on just the taste.

Swallow gently leaving your mouth coated with the scotch. Now, slowly inhale through your mouth and exhale through your nose to smell in reverse.

Savor the aftertaste.

Repeat.

And you have now had what I call the "whole body scotch experience."
 
Tumbler? Snifter?
What!?!??

I like your experience, haha, seems like it'd take a while to drink a few oz though.
Seems like a long process to enjoy some Liquor, but I guess you really get to enjoy it.
Sounds like I'd enjoy that process though. I never was a fan of doing shots. When I was comparing grey goose a week back I wasn't doing shots, I was actually tasting it, everyone thought I was wacko (I guess I sort of am, lol...)
The LCBO recommends Bookers or Knob Creek to be drinking neat or with ice. Perhaps I should try one of these to start with? They are both over 40%, so I can also say I've drunken something greater then 40% (I was going to try some 151 a few weeks back, but rethought that and realized it was a horrible idea) LOL.
Edit ::
Ah, a snifter. I was ALWAYS fascinated by those since I was a child. I remember in an episode of the simpsons Homer swirling some wihsky I think in a snifter. That's super neat. I wonder if we have one, or where we can get one.
 
I wonder if we have one, or where we can get one.

THIS will do quite nicely.

Knob Creek is a very good Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey. It is strong, 100 proof, so you may need that splash of water to thin it down. Otherwise, same treatment. Knob Creek is slightly sweek with maple notes. It's very nice.
 
:thumbup: knob creek with a splash of water is a staple product around here. In the summertime, I sometimes add a single ice cube instead though. Its the best drink for the money I've found yet.
 
I found a bottle of unopened Remy Martin VSOP downstairs.
I think my dad's co-worker gave it to him a few years ago. It is just sitting, my dad probably doesn't even know what it is. These days he just drinks bacardi, maybe once a month with sprite or something.
I don't think he'll ever drink this bottle, so I can snag it if I want. I'm curious if it's half decent though. I know my dad didn't buy it because I've never seen him spend more then $25 on a bottle, lol.
 
THIS will do quite nicely.

Knob Creek is a very good Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey. It is strong, 100 proof, so you may need that splash of water to thin it down. Otherwise, same treatment. Knob Creek is slightly sweek with maple notes. It's very nice.


My mom said we might have one in the basement from her first husband (passed away about 30 years ago from cancer.)
Call me a cheap bastard, but $130 for a snifter seems like a lot, considering I'm a newb. I would think I could get something for maybe $15-30 if need-be?
I'll probably get some knob creek then and add a ice cube. Should be nice.
 
I'm actually curious to try one that's higher alcohol %, lol. I'll be drinking a little bit to get slightly impaired in my thinking while just hanging out most likely. At the same time enjoying a drink would be a plus.

Hmmmmm . . . I was going to link to "Gorilla Punch" but then I saw all the cuss words and figured I'd get hollered at for posting said link in Community. It is basically a mix of OJ, pineapple juice, and 190 proof Everclear.

Seriously, though. As a longtime vodka & rum drinker, you are gonna be in for a rude awakening with your first whiskey hangover. In fact, the headache & nausea may start an hour after finishing your 3rd drink. I can drink a dozen shots of good vodka without any ill effects -- whiskey and scotch hurt me.

Don't waste your money on fine single malt you are unable to appreciate when you'd probably like a $10 bottle of Cutty Sark better. :rolleyes:
 
I went into the basement
I found a few bottles
Napolean Brandy
Johnnie Walker Red Label Old scotch Whisky
J&B Rare Scotch Whiskey

And one bottle that was given to my mom on her wedding 22 years ago (pretty damn old, no year on the bottle from what I can tell though, perhaps I should take a photo?)
Grant's Special Family Reserve
Scotch Whiskey
William Grant & son's LTD
Glasgow, Scotland

Wondering if it's worth anything.

Edit :: I remember a while back I mixed 3-4 shots of whiskey (some 12 year old stuff as well), and 4-5 shots of rum. Needless to say, I got pretty damn sick, for the entire week I felt like crap.
 
For a single malt, Glenmorangie is priced right and fairly accessible taste-wise. Their 10 year old is nice, but they have other offerings as well, including port, sherry and madeira finishes.
 
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