Why is the 580 Barrage so underrated?

The 581s I've handled were beautiful knives. I thought that the striations on the bolster, that carry over to the G10, were functional and looked great.

Like another poster said, the 580 gets less attention because it's a plastic handled cheap steeled version of the 581, which IMO is perfect in every way.
 
MatthewSB said:
The 581s I've handled were beautiful knives. I thought that the striations on the bolster, that carry over to the G10, were functional and looked great.

Like another poster said, the 580 gets less attention because it's a plastic handled cheap steeled version of the 581, which IMO is perfect in every way.
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I don't think 'cheap steel' is fair here. Makes it sound like Chinese sheetmetal. I've beaten the heck out of mine, from cutting saplings to 1" rubber mats to braided electric fence (wire included) and it still cuts great with minimal touch ups. Even used the tip for screwdriver and no chips. As for the handles, i dropped mine on the road and it was run over all night before i found it, minor scratches but still great shape.

Not trying to sell anyone on this thing, but i think i've put knives through more than average paces and this one has held up awesome.
 
Does anyone know, if the assist mechanism breaks, is the knife still usable? I know you can remove it yourself, but if you use it and the spring breaks, does it disable the knife or can you just keep using it with the broken stuff still inside? Kinda confusing question, I know, but if it can still be used when the assist no longer functions, then I really don't see a downside to the extra complications the knife has.
 
NIKLASAL said:
I don't think 'cheap steel' is fair here. Makes it sound like Chinese sheetmetal. I've beaten the heck out of mine, from cutting saplings to 1" rubber mats to braided electric fence (wire included) and it still cuts great with minimal touch ups. Even used the tip for screwdriver and no chips. As for the handles, i dropped mine on the road and it was run over all night before i found it, minor scratches but still great shape.

Not trying to sell anyone on this thing, but i think i've put knives through more than average paces and this one has held up awesome.
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Sorry, I meant to type "cheaper".

I like 154CM just fine, but it just can't keep up with M390.
 
jstrange said:
Does anyone know, if the assist mechanism breaks, is the knife still usable? I know you can remove it yourself, but if you use it and the spring breaks, does it disable the knife or can you just keep using it with the broken stuff still inside? Kinda confusing question, I know, but if it can still be used when the assist no longer functions, then I really don't see a downside to the extra complications the knife has.
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Yep. Still usable. Depending on the nature of the break, it may open a little rough, but the axis lock is unaffected and it will stay open/closed normally.
 
NIKLASAL said:
Yep. Still usable. Depending on the nature of the break, it may open a little rough, but the axis lock is unaffected and it will stay open/closed normally.
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Not only that, you should be able to manually slide the axis bar forward, then use the Safety device to hold it in place so you can use the knife normally and safely?
 
I just picked up a 583 with the tanto ser blade and after getting it out of the packaging i was disappointed also. Mainly because of the handle material but overall it's growing on me.. Other than the handles of course.
 
Barrage is great. Like the lock on the spine of the handle.
I usually don't leave knives lying around but with 2 kids the lock gives an added peace of mind.

154CM holds a shaving edge much longer than the D2 Adamas and slightly longer than s110v on my native spyderco. Weird. Maybe some HT wrong or some carbide thingy. I'm an engineer but wouldn't even pretend to understand steels. Just using them.

The blade shape somehow is the best I have for effortlessly cutting through hard plastic blister packaging.
 
Got my 583 and love it! Love tanto serrated blades
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Don't tell anyone but I prefer the Mini-Barrage to the Mini-Griptilian (in stock form). I'm not sure why there's so much hate for the assist. I understand if it's a matter of legality where they live but there no way to get the Grip to deploy as fast as the Axis-Assist Barrage.

I really like the blade shape of the Mini-Barrage over the Grip. I think the wider blade looks better and is more useful. That said, the Ritter Mini-Grip fixes that. My Mini-Barrage is from the BM Custom Shop with S30V steel. I carry it 50% of the time, alternating with my Ritter Mini-Grip.

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Why is the 580 Barrage so underrated?
My guess would be weight and the assisted feature. There are people out there that absolutely love them.
 
I love my 580! The 154cm touches up easy and stays sharp pretty long. I use it daily at my job cutting lots of cardboard and thick rubber hoses, etc. This knife replaced my beloved bone collector**15020-1 which was sadly lost. That knife was herkin' large and took some time to get used to...it was d2 steel. The 580 is large but not as bulky but seems sturdier than a spydie wave I have. I bought a sebenza a short while back, but I have to confess, my hand reaches for the 580 95% or more for edc...along with a small or medium stockman or jack. Sure wish I could find a nos*15020-1.....cheers, Mike
 
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