Your most disappointing knife purchase

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Might be subjective opinion....it wasnt what i expected...i had issues with the steel performance...tbh Mr Glesser himself contacted me directly and arranged for the knife to be sent to them for inspection.
I have to say Mr Glesser acted very profesionally and i have no issues with Spyderco's customer service.

In a hindsight i wouldnt buy it again...knife has very good reviews so i accept it might be me ...maybe user error
 
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Disappointment is usually a product of me not realistically managing expectations.

I hoped a Queen made Indian River Jack would be “the one”. I still have it seven years later and have sharpened out the extremely proud tip, but that, other f&f issues, and dumb expectations on my part made it a disappointment.

There is one crap-knifewise, but I’d prefer not to knock the maker here. I stuck it in a drawer but may take it apart and see what I can do. It could serve as an expensive box cutter.
 
For me it was a small Sebenza.. I found it pretty well made, but very over priced. I would not buy another one. IMHO the price should be around $100-125.
 
DPx HEAT- the only knife I ever purchased and was disappointed the moment I opened it. Then I started reading up on RYP and it seemed even more gimmicky.
 
I'm probably going to be a lone voice here, but the Protech Malibu. Just got mine. Maybe it will grow on me. Conceptually I like it all, button lock flipper, great blade steel. Fantastically well made. But it is more slippery than wet soap, and the handle is quite small. Action is tremendously good. Ergos are not for my meat hooks.
 
So after buying a BM Bugout and trying some custom scales I decided to buy a ZT0350. For me personally the ZT made me realize what I prefer in my EDC. So not disappointed in the Bugout but compared to the ZT the Bugout just feels cheaper in my hand. The Bugout fills a certain roll for me but it also made me realize I prefer a much heavier blade.
 
mmyron1 said:
So after buying a BM Bugout and trying some custom scales I decided to buy a ZT0350. For me personally the ZT made me realize what I prefer in my EDC. So not disappointed in the Bugout but compared to the ZT the Bugout just feels cheaper in my hand. The Bugout fills a certain roll for me but it also made me realize I prefer a much heavier blade.
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I’ve got an 0350. It’s the bastard calf at the stock show ‘round these parts it seems, but I really like mine.
 
Murdamook said:
Yeah, this doesn’t follow. He followed up with a clarification, so clearly his initial post was open to at least a moderate amount of interpretation, otherwise he wouldn’t have bothered to reply with a clarifying remark to begin with. He then called the screws generally crappy, which I requested further clarification on, as a company using a screw type that you don’t prefer doesn’t imply the fastener is crappy. Regardless, my ultimate point was that complaining about fastener type (rivets and pins aside) is silly. The other gripes, whatever. As I said, your mileage may very in regard to that point. But complaining about slotted screws on a pivot point that doesn’t require much muscle to tighten or loosen is just a guy with an axe to grind looking for extra crap to criticize.
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This argument is weak. I am in construction and also work PT in a machine shop. If I see slot screws, I immediately start cursing in my head.
The slotted screw head is weaker than torx, robertsons, phillips, and even hex.

I do know how to fit a slotted screw driver to a slotted screw head, but they are notorious for having the heads stripped. There are reasons why most, if not all, companies do not use slotted screws anymore.

The “field maintenance” argument is also weak. Generally if my pivot screw is coming loose on a regular basis, I loctite them with blue (medium). This negates the need for “field maintenance.” And heaven forbid if I DO need to maintain it in the field!!! Blue loctite AND a slotted screw...forget about it!!

Back on track...my most disappointing knife was a custom. One scale with sharp edge, flat spot in the blade, subpar finish, inlays not tight, maker slipped while sharpening and hit both riccasso’s, plunge lines so far off it erked me so much, and side/side bladeplay. Not worth the money at all.

I requested a new blade, as that is where most of my issues lay, but was only given the option for a refund. I fixed most of the issues myself in the end.
Lesson learned.
 
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Sharp & Fiery said:
This argument is weak. I am in construction and also work PT in a machine shop. If I see slot screws, I immediately start cursing in my head.
The slotted screw head is weaker than torx, robertsons, phillips, and even hex.

I do know how to fit a slotted screw driver to a slotted screw head, but they are notorious for having the heads stripped. There are reasons why most, if not all, companies do not use slotted screws anymore.

The “field maintenance” argument is also weak. Generally if my pivot screw is coming loose on a regular basis, I loctite them with blue (medium). This negates the need for “field maintenance.” And heaven forbid if I DO need to maintain it in the field!!! Blue loctite AND a slotted screw...forget about it!!

Back on track...my most disappointing knife was a custom. One scale with sharp edge, flat spot in the blade, subpar finish, inlays not tight, maker slipped while sharpening and hit both riccasso’s, plunge lines so far off it erked me so much, and side/side bladeplay. Not worth the money at all.

I requested a new blade, as that is where most of my issues lay, but was only given the option for a refund. I fixed most of the issues myself in the end.
Lesson learned.
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Yes. I have a set of snapon screwdrivers that will never be used for prying or poking. only screws. I carefully select the right size and clean out the screw slot. Then I carefully try to unscrew it, all the while wondering why someone used a slotted screw. I don’t have to do that with most fasteners.
 
StoneAndSteel said:
Oh no! Don’t say that! I keep looking at them and thinking planning how I’m going to configure mine!
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Buy a used one to try it first so you can get your money back out if you don’t like it.

I was mostly kidding when I complained about my Inkosi, btw. I really like titanium as a material because of its strength, weight, corrosion resistance and the other cool stuff made out of it. It is hard to work with so I have a lot of respect for the guys that have mastered machining it. I really like the simple design and precision of CRK knives.
 
The hardware argument is surprising. Just scroll around looking at pics of Emersons, you’ll find plenty of boogered up screws…there was an Emerson thread started in the GKD the other day that included a pic, and the Phillips closest to the lanyard hole was all sorts of messed up.
The “fix it in the field” crap is sales pitch nonsense, if you’re that concerned about pivot screws, carry a fixed blade.
 
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Lee D said:
The hardware argument is surprising. Just scroll around looking at pics of Emersons, you’ll find plenty of boogered up screws…there was an Emerson thread started in the GKD the other day that included a pic, and the Phillips closest to the lanyard hole was all sorts of messed up.
The “fix it in the field” crap is sales pitch nonsense, if you’re that concerned about pivot screws, carry a fixed blade.
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Lee D said:
The hardware argument is surprising. Just scroll around looking at pics of Emersons, you’ll find plenty of boogered up screws…there was an Emerson thread started in the GKD the other day that included a pic, and the Phillips closest to the lanyard hole was all sorts of messed up.
The “fix it in the field” crap is sales pitch nonsense, if you’re that concerned about pivot screws, carry a fixed blade.
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Yeah, this wasn’t a discussion about Phillips. I’ve seen plenty of cry-fests in every maker forum about stripping torx too.
 
Sharp & Fiery said:
This argument is weak. I am in construction and also work PT in a machine shop. If I see slot screws, I immediately start cursing in my head.
The slotted screw head is weaker than torx, robertsons, phillips, and even hex.

I do know how to fit a slotted screw driver to a slotted screw head, but they are notorious for having the heads stripped. There are reasons why most, if not all, companies do not use slotted screws anymore.

The “field maintenance” argument is also weak. Generally if my pivot screw is coming loose on a regular basis, I loctite them with blue (medium). This negates the need for “field maintenance.” And heaven forbid if I DO need to maintain it in the field!!! Blue loctite AND a slotted screw...forget about it!!

Back on track...my most disappointing knife was a custom. One scale with sharp edge, flat spot in the blade, subpar finish, inlays not tight, maker slipped while sharpening and hit both riccasso’s, plunge lines so far off it erked me so much, and side/side bladeplay. Not worth the money at all.

I requested a new blade, as that is where most of my issues lay, but was only given the option for a refund. I fixed most of the issues myself in the end.
Lesson learned.
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My favorite part about this reply is that you ignore the bottom half of it which was my entire complaint initially. Oh, I’ve had to break blue loctite off of my Emersons and have never blown out a slotted pivot screw. Once again, there’s more material reinforcing the slotted screw than there is on a torx. You can complain about cam out and stripping for that reason, whatever. If you set the knife down and set the driver properly, you’re unlikely to have cam out. Also, your construction job means next to nothing to me as this is a discussion about a folding knife pivot. I’m not talking about using impact drivers or drill motors.
 
Murdamook said:
My favorite part about this reply is that you ignore the bottom half of it which was my entire complaint initially. Oh, I’ve had to break blue loctite off of my Emersons and have never blown out a slotted pivot screw. Once again, there’s more material reinforcing the slotted screw than there is on a torx. You can complain about cam out and stripping for that reason, whatever. If you set the knife down and set the driver properly, you’re unlikely to have cam out. Also, your construction job means next to nothing to me as this is a discussion about a folding knife pivot. I’m not talking about using impact drivers or drill motors.
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If someone were to use a slot driver bit in a driver or drill...they are not the smartest. That is a no-no.

There is about the same amount of pressure applied to a slot, phillips, torx and hex if they are all the same size screw head. It is about where the force is applied. A slot has its maximum force applied at each end...hence why cam out is more likely.
A torx has force applied closer to the center of the screw and the force is spread out over five points as opposed to two.

If the torx driver is the proper size and seated fully...no cam out.
 
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M Murdamook

I have nothing against you at all. Nothing. So let’s try to keep this discussion about fasteners and not get personal.

If slots are so strong...why would the industry as a whole change to torx/torx plus/hex/robbies/phillips/square drive?

Edit to add: I will give you the fact that slot heads are easier to clean junk out of in the field than any other screw head. :)
 
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Sharp & Fiery said:
So let’s try to keep this discussion about fasteners and not get personal.
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Fasteners initially were not the topic of the thread, it just evolved into that once the wailing about Emerson started... agree about not getting personal though.

Stay on topic or stay out of the thread.
 
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