Well Fug ,, I have some bad news,, the necker due to is skeletonized handle doesn't make a good chopper,, I was giving the spider grind the business,, was doin the flex test push cutting and twisting the blade out sideways,, and woopin the hell out of the bastard,, the frame snapped,, in the very thin portion behing the plunge,, I ground it even thinner trying to make the scales feel good to me,, its still very usable but can't be sold.. Sorry homie,, I will have to make you another one,, shit happens,,